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Just to clarify my recent rv of this article, removing the pgph on King Harald V's bloodline controversy (via his father King Olav V): this subject matter properly belongs in the Olav V article (where, indeed, it is discussed at length). If deemed necessary, one might perhaps make a small note about it in the present article. --Wernher 01:46, 8 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
This whole issue caused some stir in the article about Juan Carlos, because apparently the king of Spain, or Norway, or wherever is not everybody's "majesty," and if you're an anti-monarchist you may even reject the premise that anyone is a majesty. This is why it's a bit "tortuous." Besides, it may be an advantage to be explicit about the style - apparently grand dukes aren't majesties, for example, or some countries may deviate from the whole majesty protocol. --Leifern 21:37, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
The protocol is to use infoboxes rather than mentioning it at the start. No Kings deviate from the style of Majesty, but Grand Dukes aren't kings and use the style of Royal Highness instead.
Yanksta x 16:32, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
EDIT: Just to add it, HM stands for Hans Majestet (His Majesty), but more commonly used is HKM, Hans Kongelige Majestet (His 'Kingly' Majesty) —Preceding unsigned comment added by RuneKid (talk • contribs) 16:09, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Argh! The recent proliferation of (redundant) 'information boxes' drives me mad. IMNSHO, we only need the House of Glücksburg box; the others should be banished for eternity. The article now looks like a total mess! --Wernher 02:51, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I sincerely implore the contributor who have supplied the very detailed information about the Yorkshire Regiment (and, incidentally, the King's Division) to put those details in said articles. All this is far too detailed to fit in the article on Harald V. --Wernher 17:05, 3 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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I hope the changes I've made is good. (If there are any, typo you must only Obey restriction). since I am Norwegian, and can understand what is at the Norwegian pages on wikipedia, I thought that I could help you to write about different things Norwegian. (Such as royalty and the Norwegian counties ... etc) TVNorge (talk) 15:13, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Using the picture from the Norwegian version witch is higher quality, looks better and is more up to date is probably smart. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.89.19.201 (talk) 14:52, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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The photo at the opening of the article is uncomplimentary, unless there is something I don't understand about Norweigian culture, in which case I apologize. The Kings hair is a mess and the photo looks like it caught him in an awkward moment. I think this is important because this article is also about Norway and should be more respectful. I have known Norwegians and they are a very fine people. 64.134.222.67 (talk) 03:40, 30 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think I found a quite hughe mistake in the issue-section.
Princess Märtha Louise is clearly not married with Máxima Zorreguieta who is the Queen of the Netherlands. Never posted anything in wikipedia. So perhaps somebody can correct this. Hope it was helpful 92.231.161.175 (talk) 11:23, 13 August 2013 (UTC) Heiko[reply]
Two honours in this article are being presented as having been given to Harald by the United Kingdom: the Royal Victorian Order and the Royal Victorian Chain. A cited website is used to support this. However, more scholarly, published sources (which DrKay often--always?--says trump websites) show that both honours are not awarded by any state; they are personal gifts of the monarch who grants them. That monarch is not even sovereign of just one country, nor are the honours associated with only one country. Given that and the fact they're not awarded at the direction of the government of any one country, it's misleading to claim these honours came from the UK. --Ħ MIESIANIACAL 21:12, 24 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed the reference to Harald V land, which is currently a redlink, because per Wikipedia:Notability (geographic features) it does not fit within any of four criteria for geographic regions areas or places (Populated, legally-recognized places, Populated places without legal recognition, Disputed regions, Named natural features). Instead, it fits clearly within inherited notability, which states "Geographical features must be notable on their own merits. They cannot inherit the notability of organizations, people, or events." There is a random area of land named after an individual. It's not independently a notable geographic area. Put it another way, it didn't merit a page prior to being named after the King, so the mere fact that it is named after him doesn't make it notable now. JCO312 (talk) 13:30, 20 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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Where are the references for this? He paid a visit to cork but can't find any information on this award? Should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.0.14.66 (talk) 21:44, 10 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
"Harald was the third child (and only son) born to Olav V and Princess Märtha of Sweden. He was second in the line of succession at the time of his birth, behind his father but ahead of his two older sisters, Ragnhild and Astrid."
According to my knowledge above statement should be reviewed because his older sisters were not in the line of succession even behind him as they used agnatic primogeniture on those days.
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From 'Second World War', 2nd sentence: "The dramatic journey northbound was marked by the Germans' repeated attempts to kill the King through bombing." I have inserted a 'Citation needed' marker. This seems inherently implausible. It would surely be more useful in propaganda terms for the Germans to capture the Royal Family rather than give them heroic deaths during the invasion of their country. Is there any reliable source that can be cited to support the idea that German bombing raids were specifically targeted on the King? How did the Luftwaffe know where the King was? Is it known that the bombing wasn't part of general military operations which affected the Royal Family by accident? The reference for this paragraph is a biography in Norwegian, no page number(s), no ISBN number ("English-language sources are preferred over non-English ones when available and of equal quality and relevance" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability#Non-English_sources). Robocon1 (talk) 19:06, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
According to his Wikipedia entry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haakon_VII_of_Norway, Haakon VII, having left Oslo after the invasion on 9th April, met the German ambassador in Elverum, who demanded that the King order a surrender and appoint Quisling prime minister. After consulting the cabinet the King refused and "The following morning, 11 April 1940, in an attempt to wipe out Norway's unyielding King and Government, Luftwaffe bombers attacked Nybergsund, destroying the small town where the Government was staying. The King and his ministers took refuge in the snow-covered woods and escaped harm, continuing farther north through the mountains toward Molde on Norway's west coast." There is no mention of any other bombing raids. The Royal Family evidently separated before the bombing, because according to this article (on Harald V) the Crown Princess and the children arrived in Sweden on the evening of the 10th. I am therefore amending the text accordingly. Robocon1 (talk) 21:58, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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In response to his expressed support for multiculturalism and multicultural immigration, King Harald has been nicknamed King Halal in nationally oriented environments, who also turn their back on the monarchy as an institution. Should this be included in (and balance) the biography, and have we got sources to support it? User5757602 (talk) 01:45, 26 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
His hair is a mess! Could it be possible to upload one of his offical portraits from www.royalcourt.no? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KongHaakonVII (talk • contribs) 16:32, 31 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The result of the move request was: no consensus. The community is roughly equally divided on this; I count about 8 in support and 7 opposed. See #Discussion below for detailed analysis and a possible path forward. – wbm1058 (talk) 17:30, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Harald V of Norway → Harald V – The title is more concise. Interstellarity (talk) 19:15, 10 September 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 19:44, 9 October 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. Heart (talk) 05:05, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I arrived here upon seeing that this requested move has been open for well over 90 days (three months!), which exceeds the open time of the current second longest running RM by quite a lot.
I find that the catalyst behind this and other recent RMs is the rough consensus at this request for comment on naming conventions for royalty and nobility, which ran 2 June–14 August 2020.
Consensus was obtained for "proposal #2" – "If the regnal name and number are unambiguous, use them: Louis XVIII, Edward VIII, Ivan V, Gustaf VI Adolf. Adding a country to the article title, when there is no other country with a monarch of that name, goes against WP:PRECISION."
Based on that consensus, this edit was made at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (royalty and nobility) (WP:NCROY), in §Sovereigns (WP:SOVEREIGN):
was changed to:
I find that one of the four listed examples, Ivan V, is not actually unambiguous. At 19:22, 14 August 2020 Interstellarity moved Ivan V of RussiatoIvan V over redirect, with edit summary "Shorten title in accordance with WP:SOVEREIGN", but then at 22:40, 15 September 2020 GoodDay moved page Ivan V back to Ivan V of Russia over redirect, with edit summary "Requires an RM". I added a disambiguation hatnote at the top of Ivan V of Russia:
Wikipedia:Article titles policy says that there is often more than one appropriate title for an article. In that case, editors choose the best title by consensus. The five characteristics recognizability, naturalness, precision, conciseness, and consistency should be seen as goals, not as rules, and it may be necessary to favor one or more of these goals over the others. Exceptions to the precision criterion may sometimes result from the application of some other naming criteria. Most of these exceptions are described in specific Wikipedia guidelines or by Wikipedia projects, such as Names of royals and nobles. While it's true that adding a country to the article title, when there is no other country with a monarch of that name, goes against WP:PRECISION, that's rather stating the obvious. WP:SOVEREIGN does not clearly say that for royalty and nobility we should view precision as more important than recognizability.
Some royalty are well known, and have high recognizability – thus there is less need to add a country to the article title, e.g. Edward VIII, a relatively recent British monarch, is known for his abdication in 1936. While Harald V should be relatively well known as a sitting monarch, he actually isn't that well known in America as USA tabloid media doesn't seem to pay much attention to him or his family, that I'm aware of.
Encyclopædia Britannica has a solution for this issue. Their article is precisely titled Harald V but right below that the subtitle "king of Norway" increases recognizability. Wikipedia's {{short description}} template provides our equivalent solution (see the information page). The short description of a Wikipedia article is a concise explanation of the scope. Wikipedia's mobile interface uses descriptions to augment searches, and the Wikipedia Apps also display them below each article title.
See the image I uploaded of my mobile search for "Harald" on the right. Note that " of Norway" becomes redundant when you see "King of Norway" immediately below that. This feature has been embedded into desktop Wikipedia via the new {{SHORTDESC}} magic word. It shouldn't be a big leap for the developers to display the short description immediately below article tiles and above the line separating the title from the tagline "From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia". I'm curious to know how other editors feel about doing that. – wbm1058 (talk) 17:14, 14 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I think the present image for HM’s signature may be wrong, doesn’t he sign “Harald R” like his British (Charles R) and Danish (Margrethe R) counterparts. I found at least one instance instances where he may have done this: https://www.thedailyworld.com/life/ruth-mccausland-celebrates-100th-birthday/ I also know his father and grandfather signed “Olav R” and “Haakon R”. Does anybody know anything further? Estar8806 (talk) 17:00, 22 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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