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Hey @Popcornfud:, mind helping me with something? I can't seem to find a source for the recording date "September–November 1992". I looked in liner notes and sources and can't seem to find anything. Any ideas? Thanks — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 23:24, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. I consulted a few sources but couldn't find any dates provided anywhere. I'll update the article if I find anything. In the meantime probably best to remove the claim to avoid risk of WP:CITEGENESIS. Popcornfud (talk) 09:43, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Hey! I'm Sam, aka The Sharpest Lives. I decided to review this article because I love radiohead and hope that this can reach GA, maybe even FA status. I'll get started on the review soon, probably around tomorrow. – The Sharpest Lives (💬•✏️•ℹ️) 00:11, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The New Yorker (Alex Ross) source doesn't say that EMI requested a name change, or that Radiohead signed a 6-album contract (though I feel like I've heard that somewhere else). These should be removed or sourced. – The Sharpest Lives (💬•✏️•ℹ️) 15:32, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"He was initially more impressed by Hufford and Edge than by Radiohead, calling them 'crafty mothers ... I don't think I've ever met two guys who had more of a plan.'" I can't find this quote on the MTV reference. Is it on another perhaps? – The Sharpest Lives (💬•✏️•ℹ️) 16:03, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"... 'Creep' began receiving airplay on US radio stations and rose to number two on the US Modern Rock chart" this claim is not supported by the provided source (The New Yorker). Is it anywhere else? – The Sharpest Lives (💬•✏️•ℹ️) 18:08, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Neither is the claim "the music video for "Creep" was in heavy rotation on MTV". I think the source must be somewhere else on the website? I'm not sure. – The Sharpest Lives (💬•✏️•ℹ️) 18:11, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I can't find "'Creep' reached number seven on the UK Singles Chart" on the Billboard chart history provided. This should be removed unless otherwise sourced – The Sharpest Lives (💬•✏️•ℹ️) 18:30, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is mentioned in the Randall book: "A year after its initial release, 'Creep' rocketed up to No. 7 on the U.K. singles chart." Popcornfud (talk) 08:08, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"On 13 May 1995, a live video, Live at the Astoria (1995), was released on VHS." could you clarify that this contains music from Pablo Honey? Otherwise it seems like a random addition. – The Sharpest Lives (💬•✏️•ℹ️) 18:35, 22 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I based it off of the info on the template page, which says "The template is not to be a substitute for a section in paragraph form, since a review can not be accurately boiled down to a simple rating out of five stars or other numeric score." I assumed this applied to all reviews, but feel free to object. – The Sharpest Lives (💬•✏️•ℹ️) 03:42, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's a beneficial thing to do, but I would guess that most agree it's not a requirement to pass the GA criteria. I've found a text copy of the Calgary Herald source on ProQuest. — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 04:47, 23 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks to @User:PerfectSoundWhatever and @The Sharpest Lives for your recent excellent work improving this article, particularly in the thoroughness of identifying faulty sources. I think those were mainly my fault — I haven't checked the history but I think I just copy-pasted over some claims + sources from the main Radiohead article, which had been there for years before I ever arrived, without verifying them first. That creates opportunity to improve the Radiohead page too, so nice work all round. Popcornfud (talk) 06:17, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've been reminded by some recent edits that the Itch EP exists. It was released in Japan (and maybe New Zealand?) and compiles some of the Pablo Honey songs. It doesn't require its own page (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Itch (EP)) as it appears to be barely recognized, but it would be good to mention in a sentence on this article, if anyone can find a single reliable source for it. (I can't.) Popcornfud (talk) 05:46, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I did find that too, but I'm not sure it's usable. It has a rating but no review or description, so we can't use it to say what the EP actually is or what it contains. It also claims it was recorded in Metro, Chicago, IL... Popcornfud (talk) 06:15, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Gaining complexity after experimenting with a few EPs in between (1994's Itch and My Iron Lung), the highly successful and complex The Bends was released in 1995." — PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 02:34, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Hmm, still not really enough I think... it doesn't tell us what the EP contained or what it was. I think if we only mention that it was released, with no further detail, that will be more confusing than if we don't mention it at all.
— PerfectSoundWhatever (t; c) 20:36, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
