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There does not seem to be any conflicts still on-going in this page. There is a lingering question about the first packet radio contact to space. See the note below. But this will be easily corrected if the commenter knows of a secondary source, which seems likely. Otherwise, this page seems good. --RayKiddy (talk) 22:07, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please change a photo to the one from Russian wikipedia, without US flag? It's humiliating for any Russian to see such a hero with a flag of enemy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.165.173.131 (talk) 22:41, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The current photo shows a Russian flag, so someone has fixed this. The anonymous person who posted in 2014 used the word "enemy," which is the wrong word here; but many Russians are nationalistic enough to be annoyed when the flag of a different country is shown (for a formal portrait like this). Russians aren't the only people who are nationalistic about these things -- many people in my own country have similar feelings. Another thing about this photo: the name is transliterated into our alphabet as "Krikalev" (not "Krikalyov") which is a really authoritative reason to use the Krikalev spelling in the article's name (discussed elsewhere by others on this talk page). Oaklandguy (talk) 23:12, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This was the previous photo, it has both flags. He made 4 flights on Soyuz and 2 on the Space Shuttle. --mfb (talk) 07:55, 18 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Most impressive is his ability to deal with the physical hardships in space. In space most people lose around 1.5% of their bone mass per month, even with a disciplined exercise regime. And growing the bone mass lost from a 6 month stint back, can take a long time."

Jeff Serino

-I read about the effects of staying long term in space and it's not pretty. Bravo.

You know those Russians. They're built like tanks ;)

-G

This guy is the friggin Bruce Willis of cosmonauts.

Odd. He came to our school today to give a talk (he looks alot different from that photo! :D), along with a Canadian, but the Canadian said that Sergei was second in the longest in space, with 765 days of space time - Sergei did not correct him on this. Now, is this info wrong, or was Sergei just too polite to correct a fellow astronaut? 86.137.232.197 21:22, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That photo was taken about ten years ago when he flew on STS-88. He was also being nice since he does have the most time in space. -MBK₀₀₄ 05:07, 24 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article currently contains the statement "In completing his sixth space flight, Krikalyov has logged 803 days and 9 hours and 39 minutes in space, including eight EVAs. He currently holds the record for the most time spent in space, at just over 804 days." Obviously 803 & 9/24 is less than 804. Can someone knowledgeable please clarify or reword? Thanks Kiore (talk) 07:57, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just got done. --RayKiddy (talk) 22:03, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cosmonaut Sergei Avdeyev is cited to hold the record: 0.02 seconds (20 milliseconds) into the future, based on 748 days aboard Mir.

However, cosmonaut Sergei Krikalyov surpassed this duration record in 2005 with 803 days total (almost all on Mir and the International Space Station).

On Avdeyev's Wikipedia page, all three of the articles that reference him as the time travel record holder were written several years before Krikalyov broke his duration record.

I've found two contemporary articles by Princeton astrophysicist J. Richard Gott that reference "Sergei Krikalev" as the time travel record holder:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=C00AE01A-C1D8-D8C5-56EDFE3264BAF825 http://scienceandreligiontoday.blogspot.com/2009/01/is-time-travel-possible.html

Mark Rizo (talk) 18:08, 11 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Can I ask what the justification is for the article to be named "Krikalyov" over "Krikalev"? Both NASA and Energia biographies, linked in the external links, give his English name as Krikalev. Also a Google search comparison shows "Krikalev" as the clear winner.. so what exactly is the justification for this move? Mlm42 (talk) 17:35, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the Russian spelling of his name, I think "Krikalyov" would be a more accurate transliteration. Both Encyclopedia Astronautica and a fan site dedicated to him give his name as Krikalyov. --Nat682 (talk) 17:53, 7 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

While it may be true that Krikalyov is a more accurate transliteration, the fact is NASA and Energia (i.e. pretty official sources) state his name of Krikalev.. Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English) says: "The title of an article should generally use the version of the name of the subject which is most common in the English language, as you would find it in reliable sources." For reliable sources, given the choice between NASA and Encyclopedia Astronautica, I think we have to go with NASA. Also, Krikalev is clearly the most common in English usage. (But the alternative Krikalyov should also be mentioned.) Do you agree? Mlm42 (talk) 22:24, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. The lead section should mention that the spelling Krikalyov is also common and may be a more accurate transliteration. Shall I move it back then? --Nat682 (talk) 01:27, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, it's probably a good idea. Mlm42 (talk) 02:51, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I concurr with mentioning it.--2A04:981:2B00:4C00:D108:AE4A:207E:9B9F (talk) 09:53, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Nat682 (talk) 22:44, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks; I've just gone through and fixed the double redirects. Mlm42 (talk) 22:57, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As a Russian, I can say that his last name is most correctly pronounced as Krikalyov or Krikaliov (with a stress on "o") so this transliteration is less inaccurate than Krikalev.

So where does Krikalev come from?

In Russian his last name is written as Крикалёв. The letter『ё』is often replaced by a similar "e" in the official documents, this comes from the ancient era of typewriters where a separate letter『ё』could be missing. For Russians it's a very subtle difference, they read it as『ё』when needed.

The the best guess is that in the national documents his last name was written without these dots, Крикалев instead of Крикалёв. Nobody cared. When he's got his travel passport, they also just transliterated it letter-wise, which ultimately lead to Krikalev.

I've seen a lot of similar cases. He is lucky he is not Семёнов, it could result to Семенов -> Semenov. Nikolay Komarov (talk) 18:36, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kirkalev and Laquinto successfully communicated via packet radio for the first time in history between an orbiting space station, and an amateur radio operator.

I believe I made the first packet radio contact with an orbiting space station. This was on 27 Feb 1991 and I have a QSL confirmation card from Musa Manarov, U2MIR. I also had many contacts, both packet and voice, with other Cosmonauts in Mir, including Sergei.

Shlomo 4X4LF (talk) 16:13, 2 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. Do you have a suggestion for how this question can be resolved? You are obviously a primary source, so this cannot be sourced from you. Am I right about that? Is there a secondary source that you know of which gives the history of packet radio contacts to space? If not, the best way to resolve this may be to take the information out of the page. That would be a shame, though, if it can be corrected in a properly citable way. cheers - ray --RayKiddy (talk) 21:57, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Long ago, I was a licensed radio amateur. "Ham" is ok, but actual hams (in the amateur radio sense) didn't use "HAM" (all capitals). So I'm adding a link to amateur radio, removing the all-caps version, and putting "hams" inside parentheses. I also added a link to packet radio. If others have a reason to undo these edits, I'd appreciate an explanation here on the talk page. The article on amateur radio explains "ham" nicely. Oaklandguy (talk) 22:57, 8 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Is it just me, or is the whole section about Krikalev being stranded in space after the fall of the Soviet Union gone? The incident is of very high historical importance. I'd really like to read more about that here on Wikipedia. --2A04:981:2B00:4C00:D108:AE4A:207E:9B9F (talk) 09:51, 17 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It is there now. --RayKiddy (talk) 21:58, 21 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

On 11 June 2021, Krikalex was demoted at Energia. My Ru-1 level of Russian is not sufficient to translate the article, that has now been taken down. But here it is, retweeted by senior space journalist Jeff Foust of Space News, Thanks to @anik1982space who made screenshots of an article in MK which was deleted soon after the publication, we have another meaning. According to it, Krikalev was demoted due to his disagreement with the government finding of "The Challenge" movie.. I don't know Pavlushchenko. Cheers. N2e (talk) 00:44, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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