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Eyal Press / ColinFine / discoveries[edit]

In Aug 2021, I discovered that Wikipedia's coverage of the author Eyal Press has a problem. See exchange of comments between ColinFine and me. This started in Teahouse. --> I just solved another mystery about Wikipedia: How red links happen! When I tried to link the user ColinFine, I got a "page does not exist" error message, and the link is red. To make a link to a user, do it this way: {{U|ColinFine}} ColinFine it works! Oaklandguy (talk) 16:43, 20 August 2021 (UTC) (PS: the character after the U is a "pipe", rather than a letter I)

Dialog in Teahouse[edit]

Change a Redirect page into a Stub-class article: How? (Eyal Press)[edit]

I was looking for an article on Eyal Press. All that Eyal Press has now, is a Redirect to the article on the Russell Sage Foundation. I just started a Talk page on Eyal Press, even though it's a Redirect page -- I got to the Redirect page by clicking the link at the top of the Foundation's page. The article will be pretty weak, but Press does deserve coverage. More on the Talk page on the existing Redirect page. Oaklandguy (talk) 16:59, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

}} Oaklandguy (talk) 16:59, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello, Oaklandguy. People are more likely to see your comment if you put it on Talk:Russell Sage Foundation. If you think that the Eyal Press meets Wikipedia's criteria for notability, then the redirect could be expanded to an article; but if you want to do so, I recommend that you treat it as a new article, and use AFC to create a draft: the reviewer who accepts it will move it over the redirect. Alternatively, if there are sources for it but not enough to establish notability, I suggest you add a section to Russell Sage Foundation (I'm assuming that there is some connection, giving a reason for the redirect): don't creqate a stub if you don't believe it can ever satisfactorily be expanded to an article. --ColinFine (talk) 18:15, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments, ColinFine. As to notability: Eyal Press is the name of an author whose book was recently reviewed by the New York Times, among others. He was a Visiting Journalist at the Russell Sage Foundation in Spring 2016^[1] That, in itself, is not enough to establish notability, but that webpage would be a source to cite. I've seen some articles that are called "stub class", but I thought were quite decent starts -- what I meant was, a page on Eyal Press could well become more of an article, just not an elaborate one, especially if other editors improve what I would provide. I've made lots of edits but I've never started an article before. I had only a vague idea of the "Articles for creation" process -- I didn't know what it was called -- now I understand that a bit better. Also, now I know that some person in that process (but not me) could do the technical part of replacing the existing redirect page. Oaklandguy (talk) 04:44, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi, Oaklandguy - I assumed Eyal Press was the name of a publishing house! Again, whether or not it can be expanded to an article depends not on the skill of the editors who try and do so, but on whether the sources exist. --ColinFine (talk) 09:27, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Hello ColinFine, here's another idea. Maybe I should add Eyal Press to Requested Articles. It would go in Wikipedia:Requested_articles/Biography/By_profession#N–S. I could describe why it should be an article and the problem with the existing setup (the redirect page isn't useful except to editors). I could add some citeable sources (I have 2 so far, could easily find more). I think there will be an article someday on Eyal Fine. Oaklandguy (talk) 16:22, 20 August 2021 (UTC)