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The result of the debate was PAGE MOVEDtoWomen-only passenger car per discussion below. -GTBacchus(talk) 07:44, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Josei Sen'yō Sharyō → Women-only car — Per WP:NAME, article names should be in English, and I have not seen a reliable source use the Romanized Japanese term.
I do realize that Women-only car isn't perfect - it's not train-specific, and it could conflict with an article about, say, women-only train cars in Australia. So I'm open to other name suggestions. But my observation is that women-only train cars in Japan are the most notable, and it's nothing that can't be fixed with disambiguation.
But the current name runs afoul of WP:NAME and it's a non-notable term. Ytny (talk) 06:03, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I like Kusunose's suggestion: Women-only passenger car. This seems to be simplest way of showing that it's train-specific. I don't really see the need for (Japan) though. Let the article be about women-only passenger cars. If it so happens that these only exist in Japan, so be it, would we need to mention this in the title? If they exist elsewhere, include mention of them them here ... at least whilst the page is under 30kB. Jimp 15:33, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Let me get this straight. There is a mention, in the Reaction to sexual segregation section, of those mentally sick people who actually approve of this. There is a mention in the reaction section of "tolerating various smells" as if males are some sort of disease. There is mention of false accusations being allayed. There is a mention of overcrowding in other cars. There is even a mention of how women are the victims of this due to increased risk! The ridiculous charade continues: even the embarrassing experiences of blind people are mentioned.
Am I the only Man on the planet? If so, I will submit the following to your Reaction section on behalf of a historical race of people called sexual equalitists.
The use of women only compartments in anything, vehicle or not, is sexual discrimination against the Male race.
We didnt approve of white-only carraiges early in the last century. Why, then, am I the only one who has raised objection to such a thing in this website?! Is this the Truman show?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.100.144.242 (talk) 09:21, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It says in the background section that cases of molestation have increased. It does not mention the fact that there have been high profile cases where accused molester were aquitted (in one case where the accused was a professor at the Self Defence Force University [1], it was found that the young woman got off and then back onto the same position in the same car after the alledged molestation had commenced, in the other the alledged victim had brought such cases against various people repeatedly usually ending in an out of court settlement, and another where the woman owned up to have been making up the crime in order to extort money, at the suggestion of her boyfriend[2]). It could be argued that proliferation of the stereotype that men are molesters and women are their victims is being used to enable women to make men the victims of extortion. --Timtak (talk) 01:25, 27 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
While women are the primary target, young male children and old men may ride them as well. I do not recall the exact age limits. Bendono 07:46, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The subway in Cairo also has women-only cars. The reasons are of course not exactly the same, but it's comparable and relevant, if anyone wants to do the research. 84.94.89.206 09:01, 4 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This weekend, I got a leaflet in my mailbox from a group named『女性専用車両に反対する会』(Association against Women-only passenger cars). It has the audacity to compare the prejudice against men (caused by a few chikan) with Apartheid, and may go on to make other points; but, I really couldn't make it past the first paragraph. I can scan it (minus the web site and bank account information) if anyone thinks it would be worthwhile to the article. Not many people on the English wikipedia can read Japanese, but, if this handout is not isolated to my area, it may add a bit to the article just by showing the flyer as an illustration of the depth of the dislike that some people hold for the system... Neier (talk) 10:26, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure which is correct, but they're different in Japanese pronunciation... AnonMoos (talk) 17:50, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Why is the stupid section about Israel in this page?
It is not relevant - it talks about males and females seperated in the same car, not about female only cars.
It is not sourced - two links to blogs are hardly source.
It is wrong - there are no gender segregated bus lines in Israel, by order of the supreme court.
All this is well described here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehadrin_bus_lines
5.28.160.5 (talk) 12:41, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I think that this section has been hijacked by ultra-orthodox activists. I don't know the current status of "experimental" Mehadrin bus lines, but AFAIK regardless of "suggested" seating, legally-speaking, anyone may sit anywhere other than a disabled seat in an Israeli bus. It might not be a pleasant experience, but AFAIK that's what the law says. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.222.25.34 (talk) 03:14, 5 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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