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List of Green Bay Packers Associated Press All-Pro selections

• ... that the only first-team AP All-Pro for the Green Bay Packers the last two seasons was kick returner Keisean Nixon?

• Source: 2022 and 2023

• Reviewed: Peter Demetz

Moved to mainspace by Gonzo fan2007 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 43 past nominations.

« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:18, 24 May 2024 (UTC).

• Probably needs a new hook as readers who aren't NFL fans or very familiar with American football may not see the interest of this hook. If a reader does not know what an "AP All-Pro" is or its significance, they won't find the hook interesting. Rejecting ALT0 per WP:DYKINT as well as the old supplementary guidelines (i.e. don't assume all readers are familiar with the sport you're talking about). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:43, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
  • ALT1: ... that the only Green Bay Packers' player recognized by the Associated Press as a first-team All-Pro the last two seasons was kick returner Keisean Nixon? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:01, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
  • . Requesting a second opinion. By writing out "Associated Press" and adding "recognized" helps clarify that this is a national recognition. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:03, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Will probably have to disagree here. Readers might still not necessarily get what it means to be an "All-Pro" or how it is a big deal. Historically, our sports hooks have tended to underperform and be criticized as only appealing to sports fans, and I can't see how this hook or angle is any different. A completely different angle is probably needed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:14, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

. Requesting a second opinion. I.e. from another editor please. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:14, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

@Gonzo fan2007: What about something like:

ALT2: ... that the Green Bay Packers once had 14 players selected to the national All-Pro team?

I don't necessarily love the current hook, but I think the article has potential for something interesting to be picked out from it. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:59, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm fine with ALT2 hey man im josh. Thank you. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:08, 24 June 2024 (UTC)

For anyone reading, I'm commenting for clarity that I am not reviewing this nomination, I just proposed an alternative hook. This still needs a reviewer. Hey man im josh (talk) 11:40, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

• needs a review on ALT2. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:46, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

The whole article needs a review.--Launchballer 17:54, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

• I'll review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:04, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

Overall: Looks good. Nice work. I think ALT2 is interesting enough and so that one is approved. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:29, 28 June 2024 (UTC)

• I am unfamiliar with American sports Gonzo_fan2007; is there consensus to refer to the AP team as "the national All-Pro team"? To me, it seems like the only teams which could be called "national" would be the official ones between 1931 and 1942. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:40, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
  • AirshipJungleman29, it is a national recognition made by the Associated Press. This would be different from a regional or conference recognition. Also, it's important to differentiate between All-Stars/Pro Bowls and All-Pro. They are completely different distinctions. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:18, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
    • Gonzo_fan2007 But as there are many national All-Pro teams (PFWA, SN, etc.), would it not be better for the hook to say "a national" rather than "the national"? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:22, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
      • AirshipJungleman29 that's a fair point, I'm good with that change. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)