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This is the first barnstar I've given, and barnstars seem to be going a bit out of fashion, but I just feel compelled to give it because I've been running into your edits all over the place. It's especially impressive that you've only had an account for 8 months and made so many improvements to the wiki. eπi (talk | contribs) 17:01, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
Other than the robustness of available references which are admittedly few for this newer festival, it seems to me to be fundamentally similar enough to warrant fairer consideration.
If there's an empty request, like at Template talk:AFC submission, it's OK to remove it. I usually leave an edit summary of "rm empty request". Some mark it nd, as you did, and some remove it. It seems to be one of the few situations where it's OK to remove someone's edits from a talk page. Hope that helps, Cabayi (talk) 06:47, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
Nice. I do like fixes that prevent mistakes rather than forcing us to correct and unintentionally belittle novices and mistake-makers. I'm still unreasonably chuffed with how well this fix has worked. Cabayi (talk) 08:44, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
@Flix11: There is still very little prose in the draft, and its a subject I'm not very familiar with, so at this point I'm not comfortable accepting the draft. But, another reviewer should take a look at it --DannyS712 (talk) 15:59, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
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File descriptions for files from Commons were not shown properly on other Wikimedia wikis for a few days. For example the image descriptions and license information were missing. This has now been fixed. [1][2]
Some diffs show an error message when you try to see them. The developers are working on fixing it. It could be because of some edit comments. [3][4]
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The content translation tool on Wikipedia can use machine translations. There is a system to stop translations where the editors do not fix machine translation mistakes. This warns or stops them if they seem to just copy what the machine translation gives them. If this system is too strict or not strict enough you can tell the language team. [5]
The Wikidata wbeditentityAPI endpoint will remove all aliases if the request includes an empty alias. This is how it supposed to work. It has not been working this way because of a bug. This will start on 12 June. [6]
The same templates are used for Harvard references and parenthetical references, because they are just different formats of the inline citation with the same principle of not using ref tags and defining the references separately --DannyS712 (talk) 06:24, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
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Wikidocumentaries service approaches beta quality and displays content from Wikimedia and other openly licensed sources for each Wikidata item. The latest user interface translations are Indonesian and Russian, and the newest content source plugin for the related images section is the brand new Creative Commons Search catalog.
Several developers from the Wikidata team attended to the hackathon, discussed with the community, gathered feedback, hacked on things together with volunteers :)
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to create those Template:Parenthetical referencing editnotice/editnotices for me is muchly appreciated especially because - duh on me! - I didn't realize I'm not a template editor. I don't really have a List right now but I might be pestering you from time to time to create these for articles I come across that are riddled with Harvard cite errors and warnings. Frankly, most of the articles that use Harvard cites are riddled with errors...if not for "importScript('User:Ucucha/HarvErrors.js');" on my common.js page I guess I wouldn't be able to fix them because I'd never even see them. Shearonink (talk) 19:07, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
Hello DannyS712. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Angry Birds on The Run, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: notable creator, notable franchise, consider merging per WP:ATD-M. Thank you. SoWhy06:00, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Both are fine, especially since Angry Birds already mentions the YouTube series. For future reference, if merging or redirecting is possible, just do so instead of tagging for deletion (since WP:ATD is a policy that also applies to speedy deletion). Regards SoWhy06:04, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
For recognizing a suspicious situation and bringing to light an ongoing security breach that could have been much worse. –xenotalk22:49, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
@Xeno: thank you so much. Had I realized it was a security breach before posting, I would have emailed a 'crat first, but I'm glad that everything worked out. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 23:18, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
@Primefac: what specifically are you referring to? All tasks so far have been done by DannyS712 bot, except for the one listed as bot II. In the future, I'll make sure to file other tasks properly. When other tasks are sent to trial I update accordingly... Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 16:09, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
I guess I meant listing it in a separate section as "bot II tasks" or similar; it's not technically Task 13 of "Bot I" any more. Primefac (talk) 19:11, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
@Primefac: I was numbering them for myself, since I don't want multiple task 13s, even with different bots. Is not the "account: DannyS712 bot II" enough? --DannyS712 (talk) 19:37, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
You're welcome to do whatever you please; I was just letting you know that DannyS712 bot 13 doesn't exist and DannyS712 bot II does. If you want to file Task 42 as DannyS712 bot II 42 I suppose you're welcome to do so, as I'm not aware of any "rules" regarding the numbering of tasks. But, it will have to be filed under bot II (and similarly for bot III). Primefac (talk) 20:03, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
I'm not sure about the protocol for this situation, but Baker was an alumni of both Harvard Law School and Harvard University, as distinct from the law school. Perhaps we need a separate category specifically for Harvard undergraduate alumni, but lacking that, it seems incorrect to omit him from the supercategory. bd2412T23:10, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
I could do with some help as well. The local cloning of pywikibot-core and setting up a Tool Labs project is easy enough but I have no clue how to follow the documentation. --qedk (t桜c)15:20, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
And I forgot that marking a page as unreviewed leaves a message for the previous reviewer. I was just following up on tags being removed from articles - feel free to ignore this. – bradv🍁18:57, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
@Gonnym: I have one for CfDs, but I should be able to adapt it for TfDs with trivial ease - why? What are you trying to nominate? --DannyS712 (talk) 21:11, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
@Gonnym: For those 200 pages I can do an awb run... let me know if you want me to, and if so what content you want added (i.e. what the tfd template should say) --DannyS712 (talk) 21:14, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
Thank you, I appreciate that. The comment: "A set of Russian futsal club templates which are just wrappers for simple links. A lot (most maybe) of the links are red links. The templates should be deleted and usages should be replaced with a direct link to the team article." --Gonnym (talk) 21:17, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
@Gonnym: No I mean what is the template I should add to link to the nomination?
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Big changes to the replica database will happen on 3 June. Some tools on Cloud Services will stop working if the maintainers do not update them to use the new schema. This probably affects tools that query for revisions or log entries made by a user. [7][8]
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I made a movie called VIYCE, I wrote an article about it, it was a neutral article, I even told people they could edit it for neutrality, but you removed it regardless. How can I write an article for my movie, VIYCE? Nicoli102 (talk) 23:01, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for pointing out that disambiguation pages should be created after, rather than before a situation arises where one is needed. I'm not sure if you read the message on my talk page regarding the issue I had with my sandbox, which unfortunatley deletion of the disambiguation page has not resolved. If you are able, could you please give me some advice on how to sort this out. Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edwin of Northumbria (talk • contribs) 07:13, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
I've moved the deleted page in question back to the user sandbox it was in before it was moved to mainspace. I think that has resolved what the OP is asking for. Hut 8.520:31, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
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I'm reasonably sure that it would not be notable. However, I'm not sure that G4 because it must be nearly substantially identical. I would recommend replacing it with A7 or PRODing it. StudiesWorld (talk) 01:44, 31 May 2019 (UTC) (corrected: 01:46, 31 May 2019 (UTC))
@StudiesWorld: As a non-admin I can't tell if it is identical, nearly identical, or nothing like it. Given that the page was re-deleted 3 weeks ago for G4, I think its likely that G4 applies, but we'll see --DannyS712 (talk) 01:46, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
@DannyS712:@StudiesWorld: In the older deletion review that happened in March 2017, the club had still not played their first game yet; it was only being announced as a future team. Now the club is listed on the league's website ([9]). There are also stats of the team actually playing this season ([10]), so it easily passes WP:NFOOTY. I can also include reliable sources and references to back up the information, so the reason for speedy deletion being just G4 isn't fair for the page. Matthewishere0 (talk) 02:10, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
Matthewishere0, WP:NFOOTY does not apply to teams and is quite explicit about that matter. The guidelines which would would apply are the WP:ORG and then, WP:GNG. I have not found any significant coverage of the organization, therefore I think it would fail at AfD for the same notability reasons. It has also been deleted as G4, so presumably the content of the pages remained similar. StudiesWorld (talk) 10:18, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
I tagged it to be salted since it has been created multiple times recently. Which is basically the only reason why I salted it, I don't know really that much about it-sorry. Wgolf (talk) 02:23, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
Hi there, DannyS712, and welcome to Women in Red. I must say I'm impressed by how active you have been during the comparatively short time you've been on Wikipedia. I'm pleased to see you are now interested in contributing more biographies of women. In this connection, you might find it useful to look through our Ten Simple Rules. Please let me know if you run into any difficulties or need assistance.--Ipigott (talk) 07:12, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott: Thanks for the welcome. I'm interested in writing articles generally, and specifically about politicians and court cases, so when I saw that Carin Clauss hadn't been written I figured I should join DannyS712 (talk) 07:14, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi DannyS712, is it a coincidence that I was inspired by Women in Red (or does Wikipedia track my browsing history now?) to start creating articles for unrecognized top Nigerian women on Wikipedia. I'm doing this in my spare time as a programmer so sorry about terribly incomplete edits. I was in a Wikimedia conference in 2015 in Ethiopia and have wanted to contribute since but I think I'm still to get proper hang of it. Opatachibueze (talk) 07:40, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Oh, yeah. NPP was extended. Bot flag should really be in the place of EVC, so I will not extend that one. I will, however, make sure that the bot flag is requested for this. --TheSandDoctorTalk18:03, 1 June 2019 (UTC)
Re:North Korea at the 1978 Asian Games moved to draftspace
Thanks, Danny. I'll see what I can do about finding sources. As for now I am dealing with a throbbing toothache so until Monday I just want to use the net for fun. Plus arthritis...sooo, thanks for letting me know about the move and God bless you! Antonio Ouchie! Martin, (aqui por favor) 10:58, 2 June, 2019 (UTC)
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You can now write all special letters in all African Wikipedia languages. This works in the desktop version. [11]
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Hey Danny, do you happen to have a bot that can do null page saves to the pages transcluding Module:Str endswith, so it can be refreshed? It's supposed to be deleted, but it has 20k "transclusions" still left, which seems to be ghost, but I'd like to make sure. --Gonnym (talk) 19:53, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
Ah, heh. Well. thanks anyways. Some of the editors in that discussion said User:Joe's Null Bot is working now, but it has a message at the top saying it isn't. @Galobtter:, do you know if you can help here and get it to run on this module? --Gonnym (talk) 20:00, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
No, nothing does that for Twinkle, not yet anyway. I've got something on the backburner to try and deal with this, so hopefully down the line, but until then no. In the end, though, you're responsible for everything you do with Twinkle, and I'd never consider nominating something without seeing who the creator is first. You can turn off notifications for R4 tags if you like, but either way, if you're going to be doing rapidfire nominations, it's up to you to avoid blindly sending notifications to the same user. ~ Amory(u • t • c)21:24, 3 June 2019 (UTC)
You're such a pro scripter but didn't it occur to you that this problem just demands a simple JS-based solution. Put this in your common.js, doesn't work perfectly of course, being written in 5 mins, but does the work:
$('input[value=redircom]').click(function(){newMorebits.wiki.page(mw.config.get('wgPageName')).lookupCreator(function(e){varcreator=e.getCreator();if(creator!=='DragonflySixtyseven')return;varchkbx=$('input[value=notify]');chkbx.parent().after(' Danger! Created by DragonFly');chkbx[0].checked=false;});});
Hmm, this will throw an error unless the TW csd window is open. You'll have to figure out a way to add the event listener only when the csd window is opened. I'll think abt it. SD0001 (talk) 07:38, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
if our leaderboard was actually competitive and we were actually full top to bottom with people who put in a significant amount of effort reviewing redirects, I could see people preferring to have bots left out. As it is, I don't think anyone's going to mind, plus it makes it easier for people to keep track of the bot and increases the odds of people noticing anything weird happening. signed, Rosguilltalk01:23, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
EFFPRH kudos
Just wanted to drop you a quick thanks for making EFFPRH (discovered it via your edit history on EF/FP/R). I just found out about it and it sure looks like a useful little tool (especially since I never remember the template names). creffett (talk) 02:17, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
I'm very mad at why you deleted Naples United FC for the FOURTH time. The club literally meets all the requirements needed and also you cant just list G4 as the reason why it needs to be deleted. To make things worse, you even marked it for SPEEDY deletion, instead of Proposed deletion. Matthewishere0 (talk) 02:38, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi, is there any way that situations like this can be avoided: there's a single RfD discussion for a group of related redirects and probably there's no need for their creator to receive a long string of individual talk page notifications for each of them. – Uanfala (talk)11:27, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
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HiDannyS712, I wanted to ask if you were able to review some edits you and I had been working on for the Draft:Grayscale_Investments article. I made modifications to meet the criteria you requested and resubmitted the article for review. Hoping to see it moved to the mainspace soon! Thank you for your continued collaboration. CertifiedTurtle (talk) 20:40, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
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I would like to propose a category merger for scientific tree to the learned tree, and I think all of the subcategories need a tag, some for merger, some for just renaming if there is no direct equivalent (like for most of the 'by subject'). I hope you have some tools that can help automate this rather then us having to tag each one by hand? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here03:40, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
@Piotrus: Sure, file the CfD so I have something to link to, and I'll process this. It has to be the same day (UTC) though, so try to do it early in the (UTC) day if possible. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 03:09, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Hello DannyS712. Your account has been granted the "filemover" user right, either following a request for it or due to a clear need for the ability to move files. Please take a moment to review Wikipedia:File mover for more information on this user right and under what circumstances it is okay to move files. When you move a file please remember to update any links to the new name as well! If you do not want the file mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! ~Swarm~{sting}06:10, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
@Swarm: I have a question though: the note at Special:Move says that "Leaving a redirect from the prior title to the new is the norm for page moves for various reasons, such as that the prior title often has numerous internal and incoming links that would be broken upon the move and that it may be a likely search term. By contrast, such concerns are not normally applicable to file titles, which are often only linked from the one or two pages on which the file appears. Accordingly, unless this file is included in many pages (check using what links here; do not rely solely on the file links at the bottom of the file page), please consider manually changing all links to the old title to the new title, and then moving the file without leaving a redirect behind. The option to leave a redirect behind is checked by default, and must be unticked if you take this course." However, Wikipedia:Page mover#Suppress redirect criteria lists the situations where redirects can be suppressed, and says that "suppressing redirects in other cases may result in the revocation of page mover rights" - can you clarify? Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 06:23, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) Congrats. Everytime you use the "Suppress redirect" option, You are basically doing 2 things.
First is the renaming of the file and it should be done as per the policy see WP:FMNN
Second you are CSDing the redirect that would normally have been created. So before you supress the redirect, you should make sure that your action is in accordance with one of the valid reasons to WP:CSD a redirect. If you cant think of a valid reason to suppress the redirect, you should not suppress it.
I looked at your links. Cant find anything wrong. Can you quote what exactly you want changed in a Change X to Y format. --DBigXrayᗙ09:26, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
@DBigXray: The movepagetext includes the part listed below, which conflicts with the policy
{{#ifeq: {{NAMESPACE:{{#titleparts:{{PAGENAME}}|1|2}}}} | {{ns:File}} |
{{#ifeq:{{#titleparts:{{PAGENAME}}|1|3}}||{{notice|Using the form below will rename a file, moving all of its history to the new name. This option is only available to administrators and file movers.
Leaving a [[Wikipedia:Redirect|redirect]] from the prior title to the new is the norm for ''page moves'' for various reasons, such as that the prior title often has numerous internal and incoming links that would be broken upon the move and that it may be a likely search term. By contrast, such concerns are not normally applicable to file titles, which are often only linked from the one or two pages on which the file appears. Accordingly, unless this file is included in many pages (check using [[Help:What links here|what links here]]; do not rely solely on the file links at the bottom of the file page), please consider manually changing all links to the old title to the new title, and then moving the file without leaving a redirect behind. The option to leave a redirect behind is checked by default, and must be unticked if you take this course.
Please remember after the move to revisit the file page and remove {{tl|rename media}} or any other code that requested the move. Please also consider [[Wikipedia:Moving files to Commons|moving this page to Commons]] if it is a public domain release or under a [[Commons:Licensing#Acceptable licenses|suitable free license]].
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It looks good to me. What is your change proposal. I guess the above language must have been selected based on some consensus discussion somewhere. --DBigXrayᗙ06:45, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
It seems you are seeing something that I have repeatedly failed to notice (and still do due to lack of a X to Y format). May be you can post your edit suggestion on the policy talk page for wider feedback. --DBigXrayᗙ09:30, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
I have your common.js watchlisted (It's more interesting than most userpages ), so it wasn't that hard to find. Anyway, I replied to the first email you sent today. If you sent another one, I didn't get it.
If you're trying to figure out how MediaWiki decides when there's an edit conflict, I've done I little digging myself. AFAIK, it's just calling GNU diff3! So the exact description of the algorithm is here. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 06:05, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
@Suffusion of Yellow: hmm, good to know. I don't intend to read all of that, but I saw how you set the old revision with your script and experimented from there. Anyway, since edit conflicts don't work with yourself, if you don't mind I'll keep testing the script from time to time on your pages (and revert myself, of course) DannyS712 (talk) 06:08, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
@Suffusion of Yellow: Also, thanks for testing 123 - I can't see it, but MusikBot tells me you did something, so I'm hopeful that in the medium-term it can be activated. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help DannyS712 (talk) 06:16, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
For your efforts in combating vandalism. Thanks! You're even faster than I am every now and then (though this could be due to the lag from the Windows 10 Update on my computer). You really seem to be on top of things. LightandDark2000 🌀 (talk) 06:00, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
@LightandDark2000: wow I was in the middle of sending you the same thing. I use User:DannyS712/ContribSearch, made by a now-retired user, to easily see new changes by an editor. I set it to 5 changes total so that it wouldn't take long to update, and it refreshes every 3 seconds. Maybe that's why I'm faster --DannyS712 (talk) 06:03, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi, I want to discuss your closeatTalk:Bitcoin Cash. What I am missing in your close is a reflection of the problem that the "option B" you chose as having consensus is not confirmed by the cited sources. Can you explain it to me, please? Thanks. Ladislav Mecir (talk) 08:31, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
@Ladislav Mecir: Both option A and B agree that Bitcoin cash is sometimes referred to as Bcash. The source from A, [17], says『Bitcoin Cash detractors like to call the cryptocurrency “Bcash,” “Btrash,” or simply, a scam,』- thus both proposals agree that it is sometimes referred to as Bcash. The sources for B specifically also use Bcash: "Bitcoin Cash or “Bcash,”", "Bitcoin Cash, now also known as “Bcash,”", "parts of the community are referring to the new token as Bcash" - those are the first 3 of the sources cited specifically for option B. I checked the cited sources before the close, since so much of the discussion was about how it is named, and see evidence that it is indeed, at least sometimes, called Bcash. DannyS712 (talk) 08:40, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
Right, that part of the "option B" seems to be confirmed by the sources. Nevertheless, there is also the first part of the "optionB" stating: "The naming of Bitcoin Cash is contentious;" and this part is not confirmed by the cited sources. In my opinion, this part reverts the facts, trying to inform the reader that the "Bitcoin Cash" name is contentious without having any source confirming this claim. Ladislav Mecir (talk) 09:07, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
@Ladislav Mecir: (edit conflict) There wasn't any (as far as I could see) discussion about whether or not it was contentious, and given that an RfC had to be held it seems to me that it is contentious. That being said, I was primarily persuaded by the arguments about NPOV and DUE weight. The consensus favored option B, and from a policy perspective it is at least as acceptable as option A. Does that make sense? --DannyS712 (talk) 09:13, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for your reponse. It does make sense, as far as the second part of the "option B" is concerned. As far as the first part (the part having a prominent position in the "option B") is concerned, it ignores the fact that the contentious nature of the "Bitcoin Cash" name is not confirmed by any cited source. I know that there are editors trying to cite the discussion as the proof, but that is against the Wikipedia policies, as far as I am informed. Ladislav Mecir (talk) 09:20, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
@Ladislav Mecir: yes, the discussion itself can't be cited, and I'm sorry I personally can't track down a source at the moment, though I believe that those who were supporting B have some (I didn't read all of the sources listed) - maybe tag a CN template there? DannyS712 (talk) 09:22, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
Well, I think that what is necessary is to appeal the close based on the fact that the Wikipedia policies were replaced by a logically incorrect conclusion that if there is a disagreement on formulation, the subject itself must be contentious in nature. Ladislav Mecir (talk) 09:26, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
@Ladislav Mecir: I did not say that it was contentious because an RfC was held, I said that it seems to be contentious because an RfC needed to be held. The close was based on the consensus that I saw at the discussion. Maybe wait a few days and see if the contentious part is sourced? --DannyS712 (talk) 09:28, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
Well, I think that your suggestion misses the purpose of the RfC. It is to find whether the Wikipedia policies are held. Since they are not, the "option B" should not have been picked as consensual, so an appeal is justified. Ladislav Mecir (talk) 09:32, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
Thank you. Maybe my contributions were also a part of the problem, since I may not have explained the issue as well as I intended. Ladislav Mecir (talk) 09:46, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
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When you create a PDF from a page on the wiki this is now done by Proton. Before this we used Electron. It should look the same but work better. Both use Chromium. This is a different system from when you collect several articles into a book and make a PDF from them. [18][19]
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I see, the problem is that if we fork the API, we will lost any upgrades of it... Is that the unique solution? Bye, Elisardojm (talk) 07:26, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Hi Danny, I was very busy last days, sorry. I have tryed that change, here, but now I don't have the link to JS Wiki Browser. Perhaps I made an incorrect change... Bye, Elisardojm (talk) 09:21, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
Yes the link open the JSW Browser, but It has disappeared the link to the tool in tools menu. In addition, the feature doesn't works, the link in JSW Browser to RegEx fixes still link to en.wiki page. Bye, Elisardojm (talk) 16:10, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
I tested it with this test page, and it didn't work, it should have fixed "Abellaruxo" and "abexorro", but it didn't detect them. If I put a word to replace it, it detects it, but it doesn't detect the RegEx words... Bye, Elisardojm (talk) 07:45, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
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@Kandymotownie: I'm so sorry, I didn't see the date - that text size is tiny! I used ctrl-f to search the page for "on", "as of", "updated", "published", etc. and I didn't find it. Sorry --DannyS712 (talk) 01:03, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
@DannyS712: I think the real issue is the website (https://ghanachurch.com/presbyterian-church-of-ghana/) copied from the wiki article. The original references had already been listed in the Presbyterian Church of Ghana wiki article but I understand the admin would like to investigate any copyright violation before resolution. Sometimes, it seems there's a rush to delete content without extra caution and this is one of those examples. Kandymotownieν) 17:33, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
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@MJL: no really, its nothing - as soon as you copied it over I was planning to delete it, because I have too many sub pages. --DannyS712 (talk) 02:22, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
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Talk:African humid period#Merger discussion with Neolithic subpluvial
Greetings,
several months ago you closed the merger discussion on Talk:African humid period#Merger discussion with Neolithic subpluvial as "no consensus" saying that there was not enough discussion here to establish a consensus. I was wondering if in light of the discussion, holding a redirect discussion for Neolithic subpluvial (i.e an AFD, as redirectings are discussed there) may make sense instead; the key objection to the merge was that merging content would increase the already humongous size of African humid period even more and that much of the content on Neolithic subpluvial is already on African humid period but the objecting editor noted that deletion might make sense instead. As you are the closer of the merger discussion and I was both the initiator of the discussion and the main author of AHP, I wanted to ask for your comments before reopening the discussion in any form. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 10:10, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
@PrimeHunter: The bot operates based on Module:AFC submission catcheck's detection of categories being written on the page - I have included ignoring categories that end in "drafts", which should fix it. Sorry about that. About the {{draft categories}} part, that would be a lot more complicated to code - can I get back to you about if I can implement it? Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 08:28, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
[stalking] That template looks awesome. Thanks for creating it PrimeHunter! For a decade we've been following this odd and ugly practice of putting categories as links in userspace/drafts, I wonder why it took till 2018 for this innovation to come by. Cleanup bots should definitely be using this template. DannyS712, I don't think its any complicated to code. Just remove all cats from the page wherever they are, and put them all at the bottom within the template (stub tags aren't used in non-mainspace, so cats should always come at the very bottom). Basically replace the line
varnew_text=text.replace(/\[\[Category/gi,'\[\[:Category');// Replace categorization with links
@SD0001: thanks for the code, I’ll take a look when I have a chance. But, I don’t think it’ll be that simple, since I would also need to account for the template already holding some categories. Anyway, thanks —DannyS712 (talk) 15:02, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
I came across Arturs Zagars –> Artūrs Žagars in my patrols today, which seems like something your bot should have picked up. My guess is that either the ū or the ž doesn't have an ASCII base character mapping. signed, Rosguilltalk18:19, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
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@B2V22BHARAT: Okay, it should be fixed now - I've tagged some for deletion, but you can probably ignore those - its just because the redirects that were left behind where edited, so I couldn't overwrite them myself. Let me know if there were any remaining problems --DannyS712 (talk) 07:38, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
@DannyS712: Oh I know that, but when I type bongwan, only bon-gwan page appears without any disambiguation pages showing. Never mind, I guess it's some kind of redirected from~ issue. Thanks for help. B2V22BHARAT (talk) 07:53, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
Thank you!
Every time I go to check out some page that I think has problems, I see that you've already been there and fixed it. And you somehow have 71,362 edits in only 9 months? You must be working here 24/7! That is more edits than many productive editors have who have been here a decade. AND you have created bots to take care of some tedious tasks automatically?!
I don't know what accounts for your amazing productivity but I just wanted to thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. You've made all of our jobs much easier. At this rate, some of us might not be needed any more! ;-) LizRead!Talk!00:21, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
@Liz: No problem, though its not as many edits as you have... give me a few more months. Did anything specific prompt this? Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 00:52, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
Well, I was looking at the self-categorized categories list. I didn't think many editors even know about these pages. That's what prompted this note but I seem to run into your good work nearly every day. LizRead!Talk!17:21, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
@Mjs1991: Not quite: see this version of the RfX report - it says "14:48, 29 June 2019" in the "Ending (UTC)" column, and "8 days, 8 hours" in the "Time left" column. For me, this was a clear indication that something was wrong: nobody should get more than 7 days, 0 hours. So I looked for the actual transclusion edit and noted its timestamp; then found the edit of the RfA which was closest to that in time, added seven days to its its timestamp, and used this value to fix the RfA to show a more acceptable ending time. The RfX report was soon amended to match. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 07:19, 21 June 2019 (UTC)