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1 Best wishes  
54 comments  


1.1  2022 and 2023  





1.2  Chemo successful!  







2 Cancer update - being offered palliative care (chemo), incurable  
164 comments  


2.1  Im lucky, the 30% chance chemo would work includes me!  







3 Editor of the Week  
30 comments  




4 Update on cancer  
38 comments  




5 Possible violation of WP:DR and spirit of WP:AGF at Talk:Jinn  
10 comments  




6 My article on Pinxton Castle is live now, just made my deadline  
21 comments  




7 Dealing with editor at Atlantic slave trade who seems to lack sufficient comprehension of English  
9 comments  




8 Promo spam  
4 comments  




9 DYK for Pinxton Castle  
1 comment  




10 Tech News: 2024-29  
1 comment  




11 My article on Pinxton Castle is a DYK on the Main Page  
16 comments  




12 Far-left politics in the United Kingdom  
5 comments  




13 Books & Bytes  Issue 63  
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Best wishes

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2022 and 2023

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Archive 62

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Chemo successful!

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Looks like I'll be around for quite some time still. Chemo held the cancer back and my Oncologist is very pleased. He says I look very well and that the cancers are still very small. So I'll have some time off and then back on chemo. Blood tests every 2 months to check. His guess was that my prognosis is the same as last year, another 18 months is quite possible. Who knows, if things go well, maybe more. In any case I'll see 82, Christmas, and the inauguration of the next American president - two pleasant things at least! Doug Weller talk 16:43, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sirfurboy You remembered! Nah, we still have a lot. Doug Weller talk 17:44, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Sweetpool50: Ha. Three things I'll see, only 2 pleasant. I shudder to think of what could happen with the presidency. Doug Weller talk 17:43, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So good to hear! Make the best of life. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 06:58, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wonderful! Dronebogus (talk) 16:56, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations!! Fionaussie (talk) 01:35, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Awwww Doug, just read this about you and want you to know that it is very moving and I wish you all the best. There is a touching poem called Chemotherapy by Julia Darling that you might find a comfort to read, if you don't know it already. Take care x It is nice you have entranced into my life :-) The Nookster (talk) 07:51, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Liked the poem, hadn't seen it before. Doug Weller talk 10:24, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Cancer update - being offered palliative care (chemo), incurable

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I'll see an oncologist in a couple of weeks to discuss chemo and to ask about my prognosis. Exercising as much as I can but mainly on my treadmill, 3 times a day for a mile so each time, only about 2mph. Calf muscles are the main problem, doing exercises prescribed by a physiotherapist. But not walking outside as the painful calf and thigh muscles don't go away and as I've twice had to stop and call for a pickup, safer to stay inside, especially with my Parkinson's. I'll soldier on! Doug Weller talk 16:05, 26 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Doug, I'm so sorry to hear about this. I'm hoping for the best, and I'm keeping you in my prayers. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 01:03, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Doug, I'm also very sorry to hear this! Springee (talk) 16:08, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know ya, but I'm very sorry to hear of this. If you do die, tell Stan Lee we miss him, aight? I like Astatine (Talk to me) 21:06, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm jealous of all the messages wishing you well. I hope one day I have such a big network of well-meaning people! My best wishes, Thinker78 (talk) 04:47, 25 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
So sorry to hear of this Doug. You were one of the first admins to help me out and guide me when I started taking an interest in contributing. In fact you might have been the first admin that I would refer others to if we disagreed or I was unsure what to do. I wish you all the best and keep fighting! GiggsIsLegend (talk) 16:40, 24 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hey there Doug, I just wanted to say I hope you have a good weekend - you helped me a lot this week, thank you again ^_^ Dyxtan (talk) 22:25, 29 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Dyxtan no problem, always glad to be of assistance when I can. Doug Weller talk 06:30, 30 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Doug, please research and pick up a copy of the Book, titled "The China Study" I'm sure it'll help you learn more and get a better understanding about our relationship to food and diseases we suffer from. 174.81.53.148 (talk) 15:41, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, but sadly too late. Just got back from chemo, 2 more sessions and I'll find out if it helped. Doug Weller talk 15:50, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
January songs
This is really all I wanted to say to Doug too, but it is expressed by you here in much better form and style. Thank you! warshy (¥¥) 20:18, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Before posting this, I took a Persian nap (Herodotus), worried it might sound intolerably pompous, intrusive and rhetorical, rather than spontaneous. Two dreams, in one of which you figure as a lone archaeologist probing a dark desert for spoors of a lost past, and the other where you emerge as a Virgilian cicerone as I stumbled along native bushland. On waking, I thought ‘what the fuck’. Hang in there, whatever. As others have noted, remarkable things can crop up in science. There’s always hope.Nishidani (talk) 17:31, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what a Persian nap is, but one thing I really want to give to Wikipedia is a new article (I have written only a handful at most) and have started a draft at User:Doug Weller/Racism in pseudoarchaeology. I'm getting tremendous help from some knowledgeable folks at the Facebook group Fraudulent Archaeology Wall of Shame. I've been putting this off for a long time but all the wonderful people above have made me feel I must get it done. Doug Weller talk 17:48, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Herodotus 1:133. I can't give you a Perseus link because my main computer crashed weeks ago, and accessing anything from this minor one, antiquated but minimally functional, is nigh impossible. I'll bookmark that project and recommend to others here that they also do so and help where possible.Nishidani (talk) 18:01, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Writing new articles is the most fun part of this project (and one that I don't spend enough time doing). This isn't in my area of subject-matter expertise, but let me be the first to volunteer if you want a second pair of eyes for copyediting, formatting and the like - just let me know. Girth Summit (blether) 18:27, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I’m lucky, the 30% chance chemo would work includes me!

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As straight continuous chemo would impact my quality of life, I’m having a two month break, will be reassessed then. I want to keep up my 5 km a day on the treadmill! And going out occasionally with my wife on dog walks. Doug Weller talk 17:56, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And I might see who wins the next US presidential election! If I'm lucky. Doug Weller talk 18:11, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Best wishes DW!! I hope the chemo goes well and I hope you revel in the walks - even the ones on the treadmill :-) MarnetteD|Talk 18:19, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Doctors have to play safe and give the worst case scenario. If you really want to see who the next president is, you probably will (though the shock might send you into regression!) My wife has leukaemia and found the chemo was so interfering with her quality of life that she gave it up. That was four years ago and she hasn't regretted it, despite the inevitable restriction of her life-style. Enjoy everything you can with gratitude. Sweetpool50 (talk) 18:58, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am hoping for continued successes, Doug. You are an amazingly strong person and I appreciate you more every day. You inspire others which is an incredible gift. Keep walking the treadmill and going out with the wife and dog. Keep exploring life and paying attention to all the details around you. That has helped me through many, many difficult days. You are truly a Rainbow of vibrant colors and you leave everyone in awe at the beauty of your LifeSong. Bless you, my friend. --ARoseWolf 19:07, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Best of luck Doug. It's great to see that you are keeping strong. Dudley Miles (talk) 19:29, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
5k a day on the treadmill! What an inspiration! My wife complains that I spend far too much time on the couch reading, but really snoozing with the cat. This is the kick in the pants I need. Thank you Fowler&fowler«Talk» 20:30, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Someone has to beat the odds! Otherwise, there wouldn't be any. - Donald Albury 20:32, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Per Donald Albury. That news has made my day, no, my cold rainy Italian spring suddenly lighten with joy. Hang in there, Doug.Nishidani (talk) 20:41, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Great news! Keep going, but don't strain yourself is my advice. All the best, Johnbod (talk) 21:24, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, that's wonderful news! And if I'm lucky, the upcoming election won't send me into fits. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:47, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Great to hear. 5 km a day on the treadmill is impressive, that will is what keeps you going.;-) All the best, Carlstak (talk) 01:34, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This is mad inspiration for how to persevere through whatever life throws our way. StonyBrook babble 02:59, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Your daily 5K is an inspiration! I feel positively lazy in comparison. All good wishes, Softlavender (talk) 03:25, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
good karma Andre🚐 04:02, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Great to hear this, bonne santé Ymblanter (talk) 20:48, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Checking my watching after a couple of days and this section makes it all worthwhile; an oasis amidst the muck and bramble. Keep up whatever you are doing, Doug! Abecedare (talk) 21:01, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Strength and power to you, Doug! Generalrelative (talk) 21:06, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
A clover for you 🍀 – CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 06:14, 27 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I too enjoy my 6/10,000 steps a day. Always thinking of you. Best regards, David, David J Johnson (talk) 16:21, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Best wishes! Volunteer Marek 18:18, 28 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Great news indeed! Best wishes, Doug Weller. You will definitely see who wins the next US presidential election! You are an inspiration; in fact, 5km a day inspired me as well! Ekdalian (talk) 06:05, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Over the Moon for you..―Buster7  05:10, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
May songs
my story 30 May
Doug, you are an inspiration, and perhaps you - and your wife - like the music of our 6 May concert, Misatango and Te Deum, that we found inspiring. I received the link to the YouTube video last night - too tired to share then. I put it there and on my talk page.--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:41, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Doug, assuming that the next US president will be elected in 2028, I really hope that you will see it. Your walking and your editing are an inspiration. Rsk6400 (talk) 10:07, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Rsk6400 You might like this YouTube video: [1] - lyrics below the video. Doug Weller talk 17:28, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
user:Rsk6400 not sure why the above didn't work. Doug Weller talk 17:30, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Another instance of keyboard ruining (see JMF's comment below) ! How did you know that "American Pie" is a favourite of mine ? Rsk6400 (talk) 06:07, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Rsk6400: The odds seem pretty good, but I didn't know it was. I see from the article on it that McLean finally explained the song, debunking some popular ideas. Doug Weller talk 07:41, 9 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I am constantly amazed at what medicine can acheive. But even more amazed by what individuals like you who will fight to bring about the best possible outcomes can do. This is wonderful news, and I wish you the absolute best. - Bilby (talk) 10:24, 1 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Just hearing about this now. Strength and healing go with you - keep kicking cancer's butt. Much love to you - Alison talk 18:20, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's awesome! I hope you are doing as well as can be! EvergreenFir (talk) 18:23, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks all. Still ok, doing 5k a day on my treadmill. Went out to eat with my daughter to a Vietnamese restaurant in Nottingham, lovely soft shelled crab. I’m guessing I’ll be starting chemo again next month. Doug Weller talk 19:38, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Good to hear, Doug! --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:03, 14 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Good news. Stay positive and strong. --Mann Mann (talk) 03:20, 17 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Doug, this is good news. I've always respected your work as an admin and an editor, and your ability to inject good humour to cool down hot discussions. Best wishes. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 22:49, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Best wishes, Doug! Sincerely, sam z. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FB91:1C78:896C:D14:E4BD:6832:BFD4 (talk) 03:08, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Even tho we haven't had many interactions, your contributions, compassion and commitment have truly served as one of the guiding beacons in helping me become a better editor. :) By the looks of the above signatures, I'm seeing this quiet late but I hope things have gotten better since then! Sending my thoughts and prayers to you and yours and thanks for being a wiki-role model! Best, Dan the Animator 06:14, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
User:Dantheanimator that’s very kind. I feel stronger than I have for a long time but the cancer of course continues to grow, so three months of chemo soon. My experience wiyh it last time was good, no problems except hair loss. Doug Weller talk 18:54, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Doug Weller I've not been around for a few years and I've come back and am really sad to hear this. You're a good person and I'm devastated that this is what you're dealing with. Wishing you peace and light. Babakathy (talk) 19:54, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Babakathythanks very much. I feel ok, just started another round of chemo. Nice to hear from you. Doug Weller talk 21:43, 25 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Doug WellerStay strong !Try alternative medicine system like ayurveda. Rajeshfadnavis (talk) 06:00, 6 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Editor of the Week

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Editor of the Week
Your ongoing efforts to improve the encyclopedia have not gone unnoticed: You have been selected as Editor of the Week in recognition of your career of great contributions! (courtesy of the Wikipedia Editor Retention Project)

Editor of the Week members have submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:

It is with great appreciation that the members of the Editor Retention Project bestow the Editor of the Week award to Doug Weller, a scholar, a gentleman and the sort of Wikipedian we all wish we could one day become. One of the truly bright lights and inspirational editors in the WP community, Doug has faced his recent health diagnosis with his usual thoughtfulness and reason. He has made massive contributions over the years, especially as an administrator, helping to make Wikipedia a more trustworthy source by rooting out misinformation and vandalism. We will never be able to measure the strife he has saved us from, because one never notices the strife which never occurs. A perfect example of his commitment to WP is his welcoming of a new editor just a few days ago. Godspeed to you, good sir. A trusted, productive and helpful editor whose talk page is filled with thanks and well wishes from fellow editors. Thank you for the example, the kindness, and the things that we will miss.

You can copy the following text to your user page to display a user box proclaiming your selection as Editor of the Week:

{{User:UBX/EoTWBox}}

Thanks again for your efforts! ―Buster7  21:07, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I’m humbled and literally in tears. This means a lot to me. Without all the support I’m getting from the community I would be struggling. Doug Weller talk 21:19, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your dedicated service and many varied contributions in different roles to Wikipedia. Your work is greatly appreciated. isaacl (talk) 21:29, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well deserved! Generalrelative (talk) 21:32, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
What a good description of Doug. He's instantly recognisable in that nomination. And thank you Doug. DeCausa (talk) 21:33, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You're a great asset to the project, Doug. You always have been. Part of your legacy is here, and it's all good. Guy (help! - typo?) 21:50, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Doug, you will always have friends here. Never forget that. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 21:57, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well deserved! Donald Albury 00:25, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations! Thinker78 (talk) 03:51, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
We haven't interacted much, but I wanted to add my congratulations and sincere thanks for all the work you have done and continue to do here. Editor of the Years without a doubt. Best wishes, Eddie891 Talk Work 13:24, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
March songs
my story today

thank you for what you do! - fresh flowers for you and your wife --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:38, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Update on cancer

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Called in for scan earlier than expected. Seems although the growth isn't much it's concerning. Offered choice between nothing for a few months to give me a better quality of life or chemo soon, the type I had first which causes neuropathy so no cold drinks, ice cream, handling all the frozen food that fills our freezers, etc. Also probably make me weary so I should spend less time on treadmill and last time the last treatment (there are 4, 1 every 3 weeks + steroid pills, knocked me out for a while. I've opted for chemo, bad as it is, just hoping it might add a few more months! Luckily I've got my diary from then which might help me. I'm feeling great right now, stronger than for a long time. But I decided doing the chemo is a good way to fight it. Doug Weller talk 12:24, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry to hear that. I wish you all the best in this difficult time! FortunateSons (talk) 14:40, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wow Doug, I am really sorry to read this. My best wishes to you! You’re in my thoughts. Zanahary (talk) 22:10, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thinking of you and wishing you good days ahead EvergreenFir (talk) 02:42, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your productivity and attitude continues to inspire me, Doug. Never give up. Hypnôs (talk) 00:43, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
story · music · places
Best wishes for strength for you and your wife! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:15, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am sorry to hear that. Keep fighting, and get the most you can out of your life. Donald Albury 15:53, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All best wishes with it! Johnbod (talk) 16:11, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All the best, Doug. Carlstak (talk) 16:58, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Day by day, buddy. Best wishes as always Nishidani (talk) 17:12, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the update. I'm glad that you are keeping on fighting it, and I'm glad that you are feeling great. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:29, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am sorry you have to go back to chemo. I hope it works. Dudley Miles (talk) 22:33, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Stay strong Doug! Thank you for the update. Please keep your hands out of the ice cream, let it melt first before feasting. The very best to you, Netherzone (talk) 00:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Netherzone Yes, I don't mind melted ice cream if it's good ice cream. I can just drink it or use as a sauce for cake! Doug Weller talk 13:00, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I found a variety pack of astronaut ice cream a while back for someone who loved the stuff. I'll see if I can send one to you if you tell me where to ship it. :) — Rhododendrites talk \\ 14:59, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Rhododendrites:Thanks, but it's cheaper to get in the UK than the postage from the US! Doug Weller talk 15:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wishing you the best as you continue your fight, Doug! If you're feeling strong now, that's good for going into it from a high point. ButlerBlog (talk) 01:09, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Best wishes Doug. Johnuniq (talk) 03:23, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll say now, I appreciate your time on Wikipedia. Do you have any more unfinished pages or projects? —DIYeditor (talk) 03:53, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@DIYeditor: There's User:Doug Weller/Pinxton Castle, if you don't already know about that one. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:12, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Best wishes, hope everything goes well. Ymblanter (talk) 12:34, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My family to your family: we wish you well and the best of days ahead. Thanks for keeping us up on your physical struggle. We are not merely accounts here. BusterD (talk) 14:19, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
$@#% cancer. Stay strong, hoping for the best you. Ravensfire (talk) 15:22, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry to hear this, I know how draining chemo can be. Hope for the best, stay strong. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 15:56, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I wish you the very best in the tough time, Doug. I hope you get well anytime soon. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 10:08, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Doug, always in my thoughts. Stay strong. I have my latest scan on 7 June - always a bit of a worry. As ever, David, David J Johnson (talk) 11:28, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm sending you good vibes. Mason (talk) 23:00, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@David J Johnson I wish you all the best David, Please let me know the outcome, by email if you prefer. Doug Weller talk 07:08, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My best wishes for you. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:40, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Doug, you have always personified for me everything that is good about this place. Your enthusiasm for life is addicting—an absolute inspiration. I wish you and yours all the joy in the world! You are The Wikipedian. StonyBrook babble 04:34, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're a very strong person, Doug! I'm glad you made this choice but would have completely understood if you'd opted for the easier route. As always, you set a brilliant example for the community. Generalrelative (talk) 18:24, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey man, I hope you get better and beat cancer! GamerKiller2347 (talk) 08:00, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I didn’t read this until just now. Yeah, you are an absolute inspiration and a brilliant example for the community. Rsk6400 (talk) 18:41, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wishing for a good health, Doug — DaxServer (t·m·e·c) 11:51, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Averaging 20 edits a day for the Month of June is a very good sign. Makes me smile. Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 04:01, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Buster7 Thanks, you've made me smile! Doug Weller talk 06:51, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Best wishes Doug. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 00:00, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers! InedibleHulk (talk) 05:00, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Possible violation of WP:DR and spirit of WP:AGFatTalk:Jinn

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Hi there. I'm part of part of couple of months long going dispute and preparation for RfC at Jinn, (starting around here). At the suggestion of Bookku (here), I was wondering if you could take a look at this post byVenusFeuerFalle and see if you find it in breach of WP:DR spirit of WP:AGFas Bookku (our informal dispute facilitator) and myself do. Example:

I am willing to give the involved users one last chance, to make one clear suggestion, I want to respond one last time. Then we can go step by step over to the other ones. If it fails, I will not reply to that anymore, and then either the edits meet the Wiki-Criteria or they don't. If they do not meet them, they will be reverted, no matter of you understand the reason or not. Because, I just feel my time being wasted. If the users again derail the discussions, I will report Eagle and let an admin check on all involved users for canvassing, harrassment, and potential sockpuppetry.

Many thanks if you can. --Louis P. Boog (talk) 01:30, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It certainly looks like it is. That's all I can say and I'm not getting involved, I'm writer's block at an article I'm writing and need to break out before chemo debilitates. me. Doug Weller talk 07:05, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What's the article? Anything we can help with? – Joe (talk) 12:45, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Joe Roe I'm not sure, it's User:Doug Weller/Pinxton Castle and I finally got over my writer's block long enough yesterday to start adding sources material. I'll do some more in the next hour I hope but things like the plea below keep getting in my way! Doug Weller talk 12:48, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah well, I can at least see if I can do something about the distractions (a good distraction from the thing I've got writer's block on!) – Joe (talk) 12:50, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not interested? --Louis P. Boog (talk) 16:29, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

For information and record:

For dispute resolution at the article Jinn, as discussion facilitator I put in adequate effort to keep discussion focused on content, still in heat of moment two editors Eagle107 and VenusFeuerFalle (VFF) engaged in edit war - also some micro aggression- subsequently article was admin protected WP:PREFER, talk page discussion came back to track, most RfC inputs would have made VenusFeuerFalle happy, but after joining from break, probably not forgiving/ forgetting earlier state of disagreement with Eagle107, VenusFeuerFalle posted uncalled for emotional response against Eagle107 at the article talk page, instead of sorting out at user talk and ANI, by the way underlying issue was any way getting resolved through RfC. Since June 2 Eagle107 is on edit break.

Since VFF's emotional wall of text would be distracting from further RfCs planned by LPB with help of WP:DRN moderator and Talk:RfC, so I suggested Louis P. Boog (LPB) to get VFF post reviewed and if possible collapsed from admin since Admin can be approached per WP:DR (helps avoid escalation to ANI), to follow neutrality even in approaching Admin I suggested LPB to find last active admin from WP:ANI. But since taking that course first time LPB got confused by ending up non-admin last ANI participant, then approached Doug Weller here, but DW recused being busy in some 'article'. User:Joe Roe's reply mentioned word 'article' but which article, Jinn or the article Doug Weller working on? not being clear LPB approached User Talk:Joe Roe. It's all good faith confusion. VFF picked up these approaches misrepresenting (or gaffe?) as WP:CANVASS at 1) WP:ANI that too which was report against Eagle107 not LPB2) Talk:Jinn The apt adage "Hanlon's razor says: "Do not attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by confusion." Not expecting any action as of today, but this is just for information record. Bookku (talk) 08:02, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

My article on Pinxton Castle is live now, just made my deadline

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I wanted to finish this - at least to the point of moving it to article space, by the time I started my chemo. I've had a lot of help see the talk page), and today with some great help in the writing from User:KJP1 and some proofreading from User:Tryptofish I was able to make it live. It's nearby and I managed to go see it again today. It's not really a castle, and is covered with trees and bushes and a lot and ditches and humps making it hard to navigate unless you find the right way in! I need to add a gallery, maybe some of my photos. Doug Weller talk 18:49, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to help, and I think it's a fine article. Do you have any interest in taking it to WP:DYK? --Tryptofish (talk) 22:41, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tryptofish Thanks for the suggestion. It would be nice. I've never had an article there. But at the moment I can't think of a hook. Doug Weller talk 06:51, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How about, "Did you know ... that Pinxton Castle had a moat inside its outer wall?" It has been many years since I took an article to DYK, but I'm willing to help with this, if that is OK with you. Donald Albury 16:30, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wonderful work...... I was not aware of this place I thought it was somewhere completely different. Thank you for educating me. Moxy🍁 16:38, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm pleased you like it. It's something I've been meaning to do for years and, well, it was time to do it. I've got some good photos I took in April[2] that I want to add and someone has suggested using the metadata to help identify what they are. Doug Weller talk 16:54, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Donald Albury That would be great. I took it there yesterday.Template talk:Did you know Doug Weller talk 16:51, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I see you don't need to review any other nominations. I thought I could help with that, but I had forgotten that quid pro reviews aren't required for the first five nominations from an editor. Now I'm waiting to see it appear. Donald Albury 17:01, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Donald Albury That may be quite a while given the amount waiting. Thanks for offering, much appreciated. Doug Weller talk 17:09, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I do hope to be around a bit longer (I will be 81 in three weeks).:) Donald Albury 17:17, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Donald Albury 82 at the end of October and hopefully recovered from the chemo I just started. Doug Weller talk 17:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP can certainly benefit from your continued presence. Donald Albury 17:42, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And yours! Doug Weller talk 18:22, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see that the DYK passed with flying colors! (Or, should I say, colours?) That was fast! Congratulations! --Tryptofish (talk) 16:29, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tryptofish Thanks. You've been a great help and support. Yes, much faster than I expected! Doug Weller talk 16:49, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tryptofish I can't see it yet. Doug Weller talk 17:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You won't be able to see it yet, on the Main Page. Here's how that works. The reviewer has passed the nomination, which you can see at Template:Did you know nominations/Pinxton Castle. (It's important to watchlist that template page, because other editors might still want to make changes in the hook. I'm watching it too, by the way.) Next, an admin will promote it, and close the discussion. After that, it gets moved to a "prep" area, where changes can still happen. It will probably sit there for a few days. After that, it gets moved to a "queue", where it might still get changed. (All of that shows up when you watchlist it.) When that queue's turn comes up to be transcluded onto the Main Page, that's when it appears there. --Tryptofish (talk) 17:42, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tryptofish Thsnkd.I thought it wss complicated. It’s on one of my watchlist but I’ll set up a separate one for it. Doug Weller talk 17:51, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My pleasure. I just realized I said something that I should make clearer. You'll see on your watchlist when it goes to the prep area. After that, you should watchlist the prep area for when it goes to the queue. Then you can un-watch the prep and watch the queue until it goes to the Main page. --Tryptofish (talk) 18:53, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tryptofish Thanks. My only involvement in DYK was years ago when a fringe editor attempted to get a highly misleading hook into their DYK. Doug Weller talk 19:26, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dealing with editor at Atlantic slave trade who seems to lack sufficient comprehension of English

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Hi Doug, I see you have been corresponding with editor Mcorrlo on his talk page. He seems to be confused about what exactly the *Transatlantic* slave trade is (as shown by this revision), vis-à-vis the strictly European slave trade with Africa, which began earlier, initiated by the Portuguese. The very first sentence of the article is "The Atlantic slave trade or transatlantic slave trade". I have made some changes in response to his edit, but the lede still needs more work, and I have to get to work on my real-world project. Would you be able to help keep an eye on the article? Thanks, Carlstak (talk) 12:35, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Carlstak Will do. My warnings and others are all over their talk page. Doug Weller talk 13:21, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Doug Weller. Yes, I thought better, Carlstak and you are right. I see your point, and I will try to get better. The other point, my english... well, one more time I beg your pardon for my bad english, I learned the language, but many years have passed... Mcorrlo (talk) 17:04, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Doug. I will work on the lede of the article tomorrow to sort things out with it and what the body of the article says, if someone else doesn't do it first. I'm taking the day off, so I'll have the mental energy.;-) The lede was fine before the recent changes, but perhaps it could use some fine-tuning. Mcorrlo added a cite of Paul Butel, a respectable historian who specializes in colonial history, and I want to read what he has to say on this subject. Ideally, of course, the info in the lede doesn't need sources if it is covered in the body with citations. Not to be harsh, but I don't think editors who lack a firm grasp of English should be adding info to English WP. I appreciate the desire to contribute, but if the additions come at the cost of other editors' time and energy to repair them, it's just not worth the investment. I suggest that the editor read reliable Portuguese sources with English translations by academics and compare the two to help improve his comprehension. An English course would help. Carlstak (talk) 01:42, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello from Portugal, Carlstak. Sorry, I'm not dumb, I know I don't have a perfect knowledge of the language, but I try to do my best, and in my good old days at an English course, I was one of the best students. Of course I am not getting any younger , and again I am sorry for my "transatlantic confusion";  sometimes I feel tired... ~~~~ Mcorrlo (talk) 21:11, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mcorrlo The idea that you are dumb never crossed my mind. I understand feeling tired, you may have noticed my own health issues mentioned above. @Carlstak not sure you've seen this. Doug Weller talk 08:22, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, thank you for your words. Yes, I noticed your health problems. I sincerely hope you are getting better! Mcorrlo (talk) 08:48, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Doug, I did see it. I certainly never thought for a moment that Mcorrlo is dumb, nor have I ever thought that anyone I might perceive as not being fully conversant with the English language is dumb. At my age, I can absolutely sympathize with feeling fatigue; when I woke this morning, I did not want to get up.;-) Doug is facing his cancer treatment with great courage, and I can only imagine what chemotherapy must be like. I've seen your name around, Mcorrlo, but I haven't looked into your editing history. I will only say that if you should encounter any difficulties, please don't hesitate to leave a note on my talk page, and I will do what I can to help as soon as I'm not feeling too tired myself from the labors of the day.;-) All the best, Carlstak (talk) 12:54, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Godd morning Carlstak, and thank you for your reply. I said I am not dumb, but I'm not a wise man either! I know my limitations. I have many many books - but have I read them all? No way! I'm more of a guy who likes to know things. Ever since I started editing on Wikipedia, the need to know what I was talking about has forced me to learn a lot of things I didn't know. We learn until we die. But I still make many mistakes! Mcorrlo (talk) 07:04, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Promo spam

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This guy [3] is doing it again, and his contribs suggest an indef is now in order. EEng 18:37, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) All set. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:41, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ScottishFinnishRadish Thanks. Doug Weller talk 19:19, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Glad to help. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:28, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Pinxton Castle

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On16 July 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Pinxton Castle, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the moat around Pinxton Castle was inside the perimeter walls, rather than outside? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Pinxton Castle. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Pinxton Castle), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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My article on Pinxton Castle is a DYK on the Main Page

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I've never been much of an article creator, mainly just an editor, but this has been something I've been meaning to do for years but only got around to this year when I realised I didn't have a lot of time to do it. I set my deadline as my first chemotherapy day which worked as an incentive. It's a 10 minute drive from my house and in the past I've visited the site several times - a wooded site next to a major outlet centre, always heavily overgrown but this year in April it had been cleared and I was able to get good photos. Not much to see and it never was actually a castle.

I have had tremendous help writing the article and it was definitely a group effort, see the talk page and article history. I would not have managed to finish it or make it as good an article as it is on my own. Wikipedia may have its problems with some editors, but when good editors get together to work on something it can be a marvelous place and a great community. It's been a vital part of my life since I retired and certainly one of the best things I've ever done. I have only met a very few editors in real life but the friendships I've made here, virtual though they may be, are for me very real. Thank you all. Doug Weller talk 08:17, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, hadn't noticed it's already mentioned in a notification! Doug Weller talk 08:20, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations Doug! Johnuniq (talk) 08:23, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Congrats Doug. A nice read and taught me some new words and concepts. And seeing Mortimer Wheeler, the former head of Archaeological Survey of India, digging around in your neck of the woods was an unexpected connection. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 17:04, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Abecedare Yes, Wheeler was a great surprise. Doug Weller talk 08:57, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent! The article came together nicely. —DIYeditor (talk) 20:24, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yay! Congrats on a job well done. The first thing I did on logging in today was look over the Main Page, and when I saw it, I was very pleased indeed. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:27, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Tryptofish You've been a fantastic help, many thanks. Doug Weller talk 09:18, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's been a pleasure! But you did the heavy lifting. --Tryptofish (talk) 20:33, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations on a job well done, Doug! It's especially nice to see you out and about and exploring the countryside! Generalrelative (talk) 20:36, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Generalrelative Last Saturday Helen and I went to a steampunk even at Papplewick Pumping Station. Great fun, some nice photos, especially of a man with a top hat with a moving pumping station on it. I might upload them to Commons. Doug Weller talk 09:08, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds like a blast! I hope you do. Generalrelative (talk) 14:46, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for creating and writing the article on Pinxton Castle, and thank you also to everyone who helped. I'm hoping this is the first of many new articles from you to come, if that's at all possible given your circumstances and all the other things you have going on. One thing that stuck out at me; I've always been curious about the type of fish farming that occurred in the UK, and over the years, I only ran into one good source about the subject. I had a minor discussion about this subject on Wikipedia many years back, mostly about the history of Hawaiian aquaculture, wondering if there were any shared similarities. In fact, I think I did figure out at the time (15 years ago?) what kind of fish they were farming in the UK, but I can't recall now. Any ideas what type of fish might have been used for food at Pinxton Castle? And is it even possible to analyze the sediment to find traces of fossils? Thanks again. Viriditas (talk) 22:18, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Our page on Fish pond#History says that carp and pike would be likely, and that's consistent with sources that I've read. I'm not aware of any sources about Pinxton Castle, specifically. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:30, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, I think I found the page: Aquaculture in the United Kingdom: "Historically in the United Kingdom, as in other European nations, the keeping of fish in ponds for use as food dates back centuries, possibly as far as the 13th century. A fish pond was a way of keeping a steady supply of food through the winter, and most Medieval and monastic houses and castles had a fish pond stocked with carp, pike and bream." Viriditas (talk) 01:38, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's most likely. There is pretty much zero chance of any further investigations, but I do plan to notify the two Parish Councils, the County councils and the local district councils, maybe get some publicity at least.. Doug Weller talk 09:11, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, the photo edit you have just reverted was taken in June, 2024. Whether that party is officially open or not is irrelevant. Therefore please re-insert it as it explains that today communist stickers (whichever party it may be) can be seen in downtown Edinburg. Thanks...Ogün Eratalay message 13:47, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ertly Who cares? That might be an old one someone put there as a joke, it could be anything. But it's not significant in any way and its use would imply that that there there is an active RCP party there. Doug Weller talk 13:59, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My dear friend, first of all I care. Furthermore if you read the link on the sticker you can see that it is an active initiative to re-build a party. See the active link for the initiative: https://communist.red/join-the-communists-build-the-revolutionary-communist-party/ That proves my point that an active group of communists put out stickers in Edinburgh to call people to join their movement. Therefore this picture belongs to Far-left politics in the UK. Kindly revert your edit please. Thanks... Ogün Eratalay message 14:07, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker)But, it seems to me that including such an image in Wikipedia is promoting that attempt to rebuild the party without adding anything of value to the encyclopedia. Donald Albury 16:20, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker)The picture itself does not explain that; without your assertion that it was taken in Edinburgh in June 2024, it lacks significance, but that assertion doesn't satisfy WP:V. As a piece of photojournalism it's contrary to WP:OR. To assert, pictorially or in text, that someone is trying to recreate a party requires WP:RS and must be WP:DUE, and reliance on an image alone is contrary to WP:IMAGEOR. NebY (talk) 16:45, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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