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Inactive admins
What did you mean by "All the old admins who haven't edited since before 2007 cannot be reached by e-mail"... Are you saying the "email this user" function didn't exist prior to that? Gigs (talk) 20:40, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
That is my understanding. If you check, you'll see you can't e-mail any of them. I did try at one point. What discussion are you referencing, by the way? Enigmamsg20:45, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
I just wanted to give my thanks to you for protecting the article LeBron James over the past day. I don't know how to give barnstars or anything, but I am very happy people like you are always improving wikipedia. Plus, quite frankly, as a die-hard Cleveland fan the vadalism was especially annoying. :) JakeH07 (talk) 02:47, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
Puzzled
Not to be obtuse, but could you clarify what edit(s) you were speaking of on my talk page? I'm not aware of any incivility on my part, but of course, if I slipped and got snarky, or even if it is simply a difference of interpretation, I certainly would want to know specifically what I had done. 98.82.34.167 (talk) 21:26, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Well, I found what you were upset about. Hmmmm. Yeah, you're right, I went over the top with that. Not sure why I was so vehement at the time. Yeah, I meant what I said, I do think it's ridiculous to place a huge tag where we just need a little icon, but I certainly didn't have to vent as I did. Thanks for putting me in my place. 98.82.34.167 (talk) 21:35, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
If you look at 95+% of my protections, I do use the smaller tag. This time I went with the non-small one, but since I added an edit notice, it's probably unnecessary. Probably the main purpose for the full-size tag is for newbies/IP editors who can't edit the article and don't know how to suggest improvements. It is large and unwieldy though. Enigmamsg21:50, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Just one more bauble for your collection
The Barnstar of Integrity
For not allowing your judgement and actions to be swayed by slights or invectives from other, less civil, editors, I award you this Barnstar of Integrity. 98.82.34.167 (talk) 11:56, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
This is for this edit; many a lesser administrator would have said "screw you" after my comments on the talk page. You are obviously a stand-up guy. Glad to have met you. 98.82.34.167 (talk) 11:56, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm a new user to Wikipedia and I was wondering how experienced you must be to be able to edit a semi-protected article.NBA Fan7 (talk) 02:30, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Hi --- I notice you blocked 61.18.170.182 [1]. But it isn't an open proxy --- it's one of a range of IP addresses used by iCable (one of the largest ISPs in Hong Kong, with hundreds of thousands of users). They assign IPs dynamically, and reassign them quite often. Often I'll be editing, and then suddenly find after pressing "submit" that I've been rotated onto one of the IPs which have been mistaken for an open proxy and have been blocked. Is it possible to get this unblocked? Thanks, cab (talk) 05:04, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
OK, I'll take your word for it. I'm not sure I remember why I blocked it. I think it was because it was among a group of proxies vandalizing my talk page. Enigmamsg02:00, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
Personal attacks and demands from you. It was not underhanded. I created an AfD and opened it up for the community. Enigmamsg14:34, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
I provided a copy of my comment for JClemens, unlike you who did not bother to inform me before or during AFD. Since my "personal attacks" that you couldn't reply are based on clear evidence about you misinformed/misreplied answers during RFA, I do not consider you as a true "mod" who contributes content to wikipedia anyway. You misinformed other editors about your "contributions" in a sense you actually created content as a real mod would do. You are the "other" editor. Your reply is an attack itself. Do not WP:Wikihounding the pages I created/contributed more according to your personal political/racial/religious views. Do not try to AFD unless you note other contributing editors, which is a basic procedure that applies for anyone. I took enough of your anti-Jewish peace movement actions in wikipedia, don't you think. This is not the first time you engage in Israel related AFDs that I created/contributed even though you claim you have no expertise/interest/knowledge/POV/COI over the issue. Kasaalan (talk) 14:48, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
Anon who reported you was blocked for 24 hours for 3RR violations by Nyttend. ANI thread is still up, of course, if you want to comment. - NeutralHomer • Talk • 05:43, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. Really just the things that catch my eye. I should've been there faster because I was watching when it happened. Kudos to the admin who protected. Enigmamsg02:39, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Related to the above is this guy doing the old unsourced-changing-genres milarky. I've given him the uw-genre1 warning and hopefully he'll stop but I don't want to be on Wikipedia anymore. At least not for a long while. Would you be able to just watchlist one or two of those article's? You'll catch him in the act again, I presume, when he comes back online. Also, do you happen to know where I can find that self-exclusion script that you used a while back? I want to help on Wikipedia but I don't know if I'm ready to come back full time, if you know what I mean? Anyways, thanks very much in advance and I do hope you are well. ScarianCall me Pat!09:18, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
I apologize for reverting what I considered to be vandalism on the University of Florida article. I have a track record of counter-vandalism if you see my edits in the past. I agreed with User:Dirtlawyer1's original assessment that it was vandalism, but should have known better. I apologize, but I was actually trying to get an administrator to lock the page. Jccort (talk) 03:53, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
It sounds like you're referring to a Request for Comment. But that's not necessary yet. The first step is to discuss on the article's talk. I'm glad to see you've already opened the discussion there. Editors who are interested in the article will likely have it watchlisted, and have the opportunity to weigh in. If it is clear that a majority, or what can be looked at as a consensus, favors your opinion, then you would be more justified in editing, and someone edit-warring while refusing to discussed would be blocked. But just reverting back and forth is not productive, and often leads to blocks for the editors involved, which is not the desired outcome. Enigmamsg04:59, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
FWIW, Enigmaman, I am not sure how much "good faith" we can or should assume in the context of a rookie editor with a self-apparent agenda to insert as many negative passages into as many University of Florida-related WP articles as he can, using as much non-NPOV language as other editors will allow him to get away with. This has always been one of the biggest problems with Wikipedia, that someone with an agenda gets treated with the same courtesy and respect as others who are simply trying to write and edit balanced articles that recite facts. A simple review of Derekstevens recent edits reveals that virtually all of them have been made to University of Florida-related articles, are always one-sidedly negative in both substance and tone (see WP:NPOV), and are invariably and disproportionately verbose in comparison to the surrounding passages (see WP:WEIGHT. It a strange concept, indeed, of "free speech" that permits the loudest and most obnoxious voice the most latitude.
Moreover, Derekstevens' first attempt at editing the University of Florida main article clearly include WP vandalism WP:Vandal—one need look no further than his insertion of the blog-sourced attempt at humor related to "jorts." This deserves no assumption of good faith; this is merely someone testing the WP self-regulated environment to see what he can get away with. Only after he was called out on his initial attempts at disruptive editing did he evolve his strategy to play by his limited understanding of WP NPOV and verifiability standards. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 16:15, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
[Warning: boilerplate] You participated in the AfD for "Ricky Powell", an AfD that resulted in its deletion. It has since been re-created. I discovered this today and (as suggested here by WereSpielChequers) restored the deleted versions and am notifying all the participants of the AfD -- or anyway all who were logged in with user IDs that they still seem to be using. If you think the article doesn't meet WP standards you may to nominate it for deletion a second time. Indeed, if you think it is a blatant re-creation of the deleted article you may nominate it for speedy deletion (or speedily delete it yourself). Please don't reply here; I shall not be watching this page. -- Hoary (talk) 09:43, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
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Hi, Your recent edit to this made the article somewhat "Enigmatic"! You deleted the mention in the lead of what sport was involved - baseball wasn't mentioned until the 4th sentence! PamD (talk) 08:48, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for your thoughtful comments at my talk regarding the Koman Coulibaly article. While I still pretty much stand by my actions there, I certainly took your opinion on board and would take them into consideration were a similar situation to occur again (as it doubtless will). The key thing to understanding this is maybe (and I don't know your background so don't want to patronize you; how well up on football culture are you?) that referees are traditionally not very accountable to players or fans; not commenting or explaining their decisions is pretty much the norm. Commenting on a ref not explaining a controversial decision (especially when the game only ended around 24 hours ago) still seems to cross from NPOV breach to BLP breach in an article about a living person. YMMV of course, so thanks again for your input. --John (talk) 03:50, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Pretty well up on football culture. I've been closely following the World Cup, and as I said on your talk, I know they are not required to explain themselves to anyone. I don't really think that really affects whether the bit about him not explaining what the call was should be in his Wikipedia article. I don't think it's a BLP issue to say that he didn't explain the call. Thanks for the message, Enigmamsg04:23, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
87 was warned and has since stopped. The article was fully protected for a week, which is pretty ridiculous, but I'm not blocking over stale edit-warring.
May I ask why you removed the pending changes protection? During the 24 hours it was under the pending changes, there were only 5 occurrences of pending changes that needed to be reviewed (admittedly none were accepted) and the page is essentially the same to the public. This isn't 4chanorBarack Obama which were terrible ideas, none of the edits were even malicious (unless you count the rumors and speculation). -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:43, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
I listed it here for trial on the pending changes system, another admin reviewed it from the queue and thought it would work. In my view, having only the approved versions show up to the public is a significant BLP reduction. Second, because the set of approved reviewers is much smaller than the simple set of autoconfirmed editors, less vandals can have their edits seen (to the public, at least). Again, compare the edits just before and the edits during the period. None of User:Angsc09's edits for example would be seen by the public and in my opinion the article looks more stable (and has a lot more people watching). And as to "merely restoring semi-protection", I'm not interested in a fight but I really don't think you should individually restore it to a particular protection because it doesn't have a discussion (and this isn't much of a discussion). Protection policy has never required discussion before changes. Either way, I'll drop the issue now and put a note that it's been removed from the trial. --- 00:01, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
It merited indef semi based on previous protections and the continued vandalism. When you overturn another admin's action, it's courtesy to either first ask them, or, if you don't want to wait, at least notify them of what you've done. I had absolutely no way of knowing of why it was unprotected, because there was no note left on my page, or on the article talk page. Finally, please sign so I don't have to go to my talk history. Thanks, Enigmamsg00:49, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
On the Florio/Vikings thing, just listen to the podcast linked. It's Mike Florio himself on Paul Allen's KFAN radio show. It doesn't get any more "reliable" than that. I already went through this with another editor, Eagles247, and we resolved to leave it up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.226.220.162 (talk) 19:47, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
I replaced it with a better reference; a New York Times article about Profootball talk, which can be a great source for the Wikipedia article. Enigmamsg20:37, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Kevin
Hi Enigmaman. The current article does seem rather unwieldy when it lists Catalonia and Spain separately. Regardless of the aspirations of the Catalan people, an independent Catalonia is not yet internationally recognised and I feel it should be deleted as it is covered by Spain. Would you? If not, would you please give me your reasons Jatrius (talk) 11:05, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
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Yeah, I feel bad about it. I'll try to see if I can clear some time, but this month has been busy. Enigmamsg22:15, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
I added recently uploaded images of Kobe Bryant's 81 point game (arguably Bryant's single biggest achievement of his career) and added them into the article like so: link.. Yet It appears user:Jimarey doesn't want this included into the artcile and refuses to even discuss the matter by just reverting my edits without an explanation whatsoever. In my attempt to talk with him in his profile link, he doesn't even respond and reverts my edit with no summary yet again: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kobe_Bryant&action=history
Didn't want to get to this point where a user is a blocked, but there was really no other option when a user is so hell bent on not communicating with anyone, hopefully he comes back a better contributor thats open to discussion. Anyways, thanks for the help Enigmaman, really appreciate it. -- ĴoeĴohnson|209:20, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Enigmaman, this article is very biased and needs some serious BLP cleanup. It is about a man on death row who is claiming innocence and is currently awaiting a new trial. The problem is that only evidence for Mr. Davis' innocence is mentioned. I'd like to have an article which presents both sides of the story, especially because the case is open. I know you do a lot of BLP work and I'd like to have some help. Thanks a lot. JakeH07 (talk) 02:32, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, but right now I don't have the time to do a review of the article. If there's anything specific I can help you with, let me know. Enigmamsg19:02, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
I approve - concise and unyielding, yet little room for a retort or escalation and you showed who was boss without being personal, demeaning or insulting. A good use of language, well done. S.G.(GH)ping!17:23, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi. You were the admin that recently blocked socks (user:FunofWen1 and User:Hellowww2) of the following user: User:778Showen778. I am not sure quite how this can be dealt with but you may want to look at the following very similar pattern of behaviour that resutled in blocks: here. These ips have only been blocked on a temporary basis, so if they are the same user we can expect them to be using them again in a little under a week. If it is the same person then these accounts probably need a perminent block too. If you need someone to search out the detailed evidence for a case, or if there is some offical route for this that I couldn't find, let me know and I will do my best to help spread the burden. Thanks.--SabreBD (talk) 00:07, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Thank you. I commented on the talk. To me, it's clear that there's no consensus or evidence sufficient enough to move the page. Enigmamsg17:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
I didn't review the edits thoroughly... I just noticed the u_name vs. a_name. It's like... if someone to make an article about... say... "Annoying Wikipedia editors"... and a new account called 'user:wikiLibs' suddenly appeared started editing that article's section on "User:Wiki libs"... the Wiki libs wouldn't like the name on the new account... :-). It's simple... Lesstroud shouldn't edit 'Les Stroud'. Have a nice day! Wiki libs (talk) 16:34, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
It's basically not bothering to make people work to see if it's COI. Obviously someone with that username shouldn't be editing the article, it's just that the only reason he's here is to promote himself. There's lots of COI where they don't make it so damn obvious. Check out the first paragraph after he was done with it.Enigmamsg16:53, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Nableezy just admitted to it. You want a link? That just makes it worse; spreading an editor's identity around further. Numerous people have seen what Nableezy said and can confirm it. Enigmamsg12:33, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
From your timestamp I looked back and all I could find was Nableezy denying doing that. And a lot of posts where he said he would only email the pertinent information if requested by an admin, etc. So he seemed to be careful to respect policy. Perhaps you could point me in the right direction if you are sure such a thing happened. Otherwise I hope the accusations are withdrawn and apologies offered. By the way is the Jiujitsuguy matter now completely closed? If so I see a victory for concerted advocacy editing, which is not good for the project. Respectfully, RomaCTALK23:49, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
Why would I withdraw it? It happened. [5] I'm not linking to the actual outing for obvious reasons. As for the Jiujitsuguy matter, I have no idea whether it's closed or whether it will be pursued further. It's not my affair. Enigmamsg02:08, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
If we're talking about apologies, I do believe Nableezy owes me one for attacking me, but I won't hold my breath on that one. Enigmamsg02:09, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Regarding Galen Hall...
Hi dere.
I sawr dat you changed "resigned" back to "fired", for Charley Pell, when he coached the 1984 Gators. He actually DID resign 'tween da 3rd & 4th ganes - immediately after our first victory dat year....63-21 over Tulane. I should KNOW; I was a WR on that squad. Hope you don't mind, but I taked da liberty of changing it back to the correct manner in which Coach Pell left.
Thanks a lot, bud. We all kept our SEC Champion rings dat year, by the way - I can send you a picture of it (WIF my name on it), if you'd care fer some ev'dence. If you'd like, I can even let you in on what transpired at the players-only meeting, who led it, etc. with regards to our rings.
I'm still trying to figure out how you can be so downright rude to the only person willing to to maintain the page. I was being pretty careful, but I guess I made a mistake. It happens. Does it hurt you so badly that you were removed that you need to both call me out in an edit summary and come here and tell me to "stop it"? You act as if I maliciously removed you. When you can figure that out, we can talk about your concern. Enigmamsg13:19, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Hello, I just noticed that you had placed a block on User:Jars80 a few days ago. Per your reasoning, which was the insertion of a review and external link to a site which you found was not a WP:RS, he was banned for 24 hours. I really don't see your reasoning, and I think your block was unjust. Care to enlighten me? EricLeb01 (Page | Talk)23:38, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi again! Could you lock The Vampire Diaries and The List of the Vampire Diaries Episodes for a while? Perhaps until the end of the year? I remember you were able to do this earlier in the year. Thanks! Ravenscroft32 (talk) 12:04, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
Could you put a lock on the Vampire Diaries (season 2) until the end of the year? This page was made after you did the lock on the other two pages. Thanks! Ravenscroft32 (talk) 12:04, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
I did it only for a week because it's the first protection. If it resumes after, of course I will protect for longer. Enigmamsg19:01, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
I see that the entry for Cursed Productions was deleted... I can assure you that it's a real company, since I own/run it. Check out www.CursedProductions.com - and if you wouldn't mind undeleting the entry here, that would be great.
If you let me know when/if the entry is reinstated, I'll add as much info as I can to it.
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Good day to you! That's a much delayed message, sorry, thanks for letting me know that my post had been moved, [10] I wasn't so much present then and received it too late, anyway it seems that I couldn't have made any difference, I'm not worried, Nab's arrogance will do the job, thanks again, cheers, Hope&Act3! (talk) 20:17, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Iverson to Besiktas
Hi, I just wanted to leave you a note regarding your edit to the Allen Iverson article. The reason I reverted is because the deal is not done. In fact, this AP report published 15 minutes ago as I type specifically mentions that contract details still need to be ironed out. Right now, all the media sources I've seen, including the source cited, are going by the Yahoo! Sports report published last week (so maybe a compromise would be something like, In October 2010, Yahoo! Sports reported Iverson agreed in principle to a two-year contract with Besktas, or something to that effect). Anyway, if you disagree, I'd be happy to discuss on the talk page. Thanks. Mosmof (talk) 21:42, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for nothing
Yes, you should check the content of edits before mindlessly reverting...TAKE YOUR OWN ADVICE!! I actually realized what I did and changed it back and acknowledged that. You changed FedExField TWICE!!! and, in your own words, mindlessly reverted it before you checked your content. So thanks for nothing and take your own damn advice in the future.Bsuorangecrush (talk) 03:39, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
Warned for personal attacks. Try being polite to other editors instead of automatically reverting what they edit and then going to their talk pages to yell and rant. Enigmamsg17:41, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
And you don't consider what you typed in the description of your edit a personal attack on me? I never said I owned that page. You had just made two mindless edits then attacked me for making one even though I actually caught it and changed it back immedietly. So don't drop this on me. You were wrong before I was.Bsuorangecrush (talk) 05:03, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
You reverted one of my edits without even looking at what it changed, and then proceeded to start shouting on my talk page. This is on you. Enigmamsg04:20, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
No. I certainly did not do anything to deserve all the abuse directed at me. I made a change, and you instantly reverted. OK. I then made another change, and reverted myself. I then made legitimate edits to the article, which you reverted without even looking at the edit. Enigmamsg06:33, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
I saw your edit changing it back to FedEx Field so I reverted that because that is wrong, then noticed that you had already done it, so I changed it back seconds later and acknowledged that I was wrong. It was uncalled for for you to put what you put during your next edit, it was a personal attack on me. And you were blaming me for doing something that you had just done twice. It is very hypicritical of you to call me out on something you just did. Just dont be hypicritical. If you want respect show respect.Bsuorangecrush (talk) 00:28, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
No, what was uncalled for was what you did. I didn't make any personal attack. I just said not to mindlessly revert edits, because you clearly didn't even look at my edit. I don't know what "hypicritical" is, but I suggest you learn to be more civil and look at edits before reverting them. Also don't shout on people's pages. If there's a problem, you can politely explain what it is. Enigmamsg00:41, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
And I didnt Midelessly revert it. I reverted you being wrong and just missed that you had already changed it to being right. As soon as I noticed it, which was seconds later, I chaged it back and said I was wrong. You calling that mideless was uncalled for! Had I just chaged it and done nothing about it, then fine, I'm wrong. But I reverted what I thought was your bad edit because I didn't see that you had already changed it. It was very uncalled for to attack me in your next edit when I had done nothing wrong. Especially when ultimatly your initial edit, which you made twice, was wrong. Bsuorangecrush (talk) 01:04, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
What is "midelessly"? Is that related to King Midas? I don't understand what you're saying. I notice you claiming to have done nothing wrong, which is demonstrably false. Exhibit AExhibit B. So there you go. You reverted a correct edit, and then proceeded to come to my talk page and yell at me. Enigmamsg04:15, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
Certainly. Looks like a sock to me, but not worth blocking yet until the primary account (although who knows, maybe that's not the primary either) is. Enigmamsg03:51, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Please bear with me... I'm a newbie, so please feel free to correct me if I'm doing anything wrong here.
I see that you've semiprotected the page "List_of_indie_rock_artists" It seems to me that the band OK Go should be added to the list. Here's why I think they should be added: they made headlines this year when they left Capitol and founded their own label.[11]
They are DIY in their approach, and fall within an indie rock aesthetic. Here are a few more places where they have been cited as indie rock musicians.[12][13]
Thanks for looking into it, and placing them on the page. Since then, a user named F-22 Raptored removed them again, in what seems to me an arbitrary and unsupported edit:
17:37, 2 December 2010 F-22 Raptored (talk | contribs) (23,746 bytes) (OK Go aren't indie, not even close, neither are Plain White T's.)
The band is quite literally an indie band, they had to found their own label. My citations are above, I could add more if needed. If you could look into this, I would really appreciate it. (And if there's a different way that I should handle this dispute, please let me know.) Waterglyph (talk) 02:36, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
The guy keeps reverting it and is determined to keep it on his version. I believe it's time the article was unprotected. Enigmamsg21:49, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
OK, I see that you have unprotected it, and I made the edit again. I also put some references in the talk page that I think even F-22 Raptored may find compelling, as he claims elsewhere that they are valued sources. Perhaps we can reach consensus yet. Waterglyph (talk) 04:35, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Hello, has Jiujitsuguy ever contacted you off-wiki? I ask because you have, several times now, appeared as an "uninvolved admin" to play the role of his advocate. In fact, as far as I can tell, your only involvement in this topic area has been where it concerned Jitjitsuguy, either at AE, ANI, or SPI. If you are being solicited to play this role I would appreciate it if you said so openly and did not present your views as that of an "uninvolved admin". nableezy - 17:01, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Really, Nableezy? I think out of all the cases you've been involved in, I've commented on a grand total of two. Enigmamsg18:57, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
You've commented in 3, the 3 that happened to also involve Jiujitsuguy. Would you care to answer the question? nableezy - 19:09, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I have received off-wiki communication from many wikipedia users, including Jiujitsuguy. I certify that I'm not involved with him or any of his disputes. The number of Wikipedia editors I'm "involved" with can be counted on one hand, and I would certainly not intervene in their disputes. Enigmamsg19:12, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
That, frankly, is a rubbish response. The issue is not the article but your misuse of speedy deletion. Why don't you fix the article? Fences&Windows00:17, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
That doesn't make much sense. The article, as deleted, didn't appear to have anything particularly useful. If you believe differently, justify it. No, it didn't qualify for speedy, and that was one of my rare speedy mistakes back when I was deleting articles, which is quite a ways back. I don't know why you felt the need to post here. If you wanted to undelete it, obviously you weren't asking for permission first, so there's no point in telling me. If you wanted to know whether I've been speedy deleting scads of articles that don't qualify for speedy deletion, I welcome you to check my talk page history or my logs. Enigmamsg05:22, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
After you protected the page, an admin overrode the protection and added the same info that other editors had been adding and which impelled you to lock the page. Please go to this subject on WP:ANI and add your thoughts on the matter. Thank you! ←Baseball BugsWhat's up, Doc?carrots→ 09:45, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
I located the discussion and commented, although everything that needed to be said was already brought up by other editors. Enigmamsg16:10, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
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2,589 articles removed through four Backlog elimination drives