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{{You've got mail}} Max Weber83 (talk) 00:05, 12 June 2012 (UTC) Hello, I only use this account now :) I'm sorry, I just want to help, but it's hard finding 100% reliable sources. Thank you for the help, that's fine. Did I do it the right way this way? Archives: User talk:Nil Einne/Archive 1, Archive 2, Archive 3[reply]
hey
I know you linked to two services, but they don't work. I don't use tor. can't you just upload the images - if you can see them - to imgur? this takes like 18 seconds from start to pasting the image here. thanks. 212.96.61.236 (talk) 07:21, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Nil. The final link (the one with 'i know what I'm doing') worked for me. The other ones simply don't - regardless of how many PC's you tried them on, etc :). I have no idea why you wrote three paragraphs above, but thanks for the last link, which is all I needed to see the image. Thanks. By the way, though it doesn't have any psychological affect on me, I do find the image rather disconcerting. I can certainly see how someone might be a bit freaked out by it, especially if they're in some kind of weird state of mind (it's night-time, they live alone, they're depressed, whatever.) I have no such thing and was in a cheerful mood but still found that image a bit off-putting. So while I doubt it has any effect on the brain, cognition, etc, I can certainly see it as an affective [sic, though chrome underlines this word] work of art. (to put it one way.) 212.96.61.236 (talk) 16:52, 5 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I like your posts, we've interacted before. now look, here I have to read like 800 words from you:
(please note that I'm also 91!!!) Okay, so I've read the above. It took me over a minute. It must have taken at least 10 minutes to write. What a complete waste of time. You're suggesting BLOCKING the OP for having a certain name? While you let Baseball Bugs blatantly troll (like, "Fuck you", "Shut your trap" etc). Slow down, get off of your witch hunt. You need to assume good faith, completely NOT go on a witchhunt when nobody other than you cares about the OP's name. Your response is completely inappropriate. You're wasting a TON of our time. And the fact that you posted it makes the reference desk a lot worse. Why would you even go on a witch hunt against an OP? Their question stands just fine. You do not need to go around blocking people.
Seriously You hae waaaaaaaaaaay better things to do than this. You're wasting minutes of our time. Why would you do this? Also, can you please do something about baseball bugs just blatantly trolling (just look at his history, no context is needed - every so many edits, he'll just put in some random crap.) 212.96.61.236 (talk) 01:55, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Also. . . read OP's very carefully-worded, very-earnest and open-ended (not leading) question "1. How racist is French society?" which could have been answered by anyone with any reference. I gave one (and my experience), though I didn't in detail compare it with other cultures. Since I'm a white, male, European, obviously for me to notice and be bothered by shocking levels of racism by the French, the bar is very high. I gave a reference that indicates some of this. Others could have responded as well. There is absolutely nothing wrong with such a sociological question. It's totally obvious that OP is quite ignorant about our society, since he asks questions (2 and 3) that are really obvious. "2. Does freedom of speech include ... blasphemy" is totally obvious, in our society obviously it's absolutely no problem for anyone to say "there is no God" under any circumstances. it's just a non-issue. but in Islamist countries this can get you punished by the state itself. (Something all the other readers, including you, might not have realized.) This is why the OP asked. His third question about violent retaliation ("3. Does freedom of speech mean that victims of [...] blasphemy speech cannot retaliate [violently]?") is also obvious: yes, obviously, you cannot retaliate violently and against the laws of society even if someone claims your God does not exist. This is also completely obvious to us. (But it's not obvious to him, since he's young, and since his perspective as outlined earlier reads "Here we believe that such extreme racism, if not stopped by the goverment, will lead to violence, which is what happened in France".) For him violence is natural, he makes this quite clear. I find his questions very easy to parse and to answer, and feel your witch hunt given the HUGE amount of attention put into sharing his perspective and asking for an answer very carefully, is absolutely distracting and unwarranted. it has no place on wikipedia. 212.96.61.236 (talk) 02:04, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You wrote:
Yes, of course. Once you succeed in a pointless disruptive witch hunt and find something to waste people's time with they will care. (This required a translation.) If you enjoy insight and understanding, then you are insane, because you are creating an environment where you cannot get it. Look at all the rest of this pointless crap you've written above after this line. I'm not even going to read it. waste of my time and yours. Do you know how much more interesting stuff you could have discussed if you weren't disrupting?
Like, seirously "Do you think nobody is going to care what OP's name translates to if we successfully dig it up"? What's wrong with you. That is insane. It means you're a horrific person. The kind of person I would go out of my way to ever interact with. If that's what you want, that is fine. if you want insight, references, understanding, interesting knowledge, then don't work toward the opposite. I hope you will reflect and help build civility rather than antagonism. but I suspect you just enjoy wasting your time. I haven't read a word of the rest of your spiel above. 212.96.61.236 (talk) 04:08, 15 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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you wrote (this is now quite high scrolled up so I'm replying to you directly):
Hi Nil Einne! I really appreciated your contributions to WP:RDS#causes of condom failure (particular given the poor quality responses it initial received), but I wondered if in your latest edit your meant to write "onerous" instead of "odorous". -- ToE 18:15, 5 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Yes 6Trillion was blocked for a username violation, but they were also clearly NOTHERE - I felt WoolSalesman was the same, given both their name and their edits. But I'm happy to unblock and AGF/ROPE. GiantSnowman 13:43, 7 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Before posting any warning on anyone's page, please, be advised to learn the problem nature you are trying to address. There were no copyright violation in the article. First, the magnumcrimen.org text, dated 2015, is a copy of the Wikipedia Magnum Crimen written in 2010. Since the time is not running backward and the Magnum Crimen is copyrighted by Wikipedia, there was no copyright violation on the Wikipedia side. Second, the two sentences taken earlier from the Oscar Neumann book review were correctly quoted and attributed to the author and put in the article. [[User: Timbouctou|Timbouctou] claimed several times that the whole Neumann's book review was verbatim copied into Magnum Crimen which falsehood is online provable and verifiable. The same explanation, more detailed and repeated, can be found on the Magnum Crimen talk page.--Michelle Ridomi (talk) 12:42, 18 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Ok I have to warn you that edit warring by deleting my comments at ANI is pretty dumb.
Delighted to see you endorse my style of archiving. Unfortunately you have not done it for a while so I decided to give you some help. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:08, 2 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, I nominated the 65th FIFA Congress and Sepp Blatter's reelection as president of FIFA for ITN, especially amid the controversy about the corruption at the moment. If you want you can take a look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#65th_FIFA_Congress Lucky102 (talk) 17:42, 29 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Why did you revert my edit on AN ? KoshVorlon Rassekali ternii i mlechnye puti 19:56, 31 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You assumed good faith about the deletion from the Reference Desk. Good for you. It didn't look to me like a good-faith deletion. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:07, 8 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Nil, SM pinged me so I answered, end of story. Beyond the point that I don't understand what you mean with your question, if you want to continue to argue the ref desk thread two days after it was archived, please unarchive it rather than expect me to continue within the archival. I see no point in that given Iblis has basically conceded the matter, and the removal policy is still in place. μηδείς (talk) 21:38, 5 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
You participated in a Burma RM in the past so I'm informing you of another RM. I hope I didn't miss anyone. New move attempt of Burma>Myanmar Fyunck(click) (talk) 08:51, 7 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
...on my recent unblock request. I promise I won't make you end up looking foolish. See you around the project. Useitorloseit (talk) 19:49, 29 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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Please reply exactly on my talk page what you meant about this:
Tell me the steps how you do it also on my talk page. Thank you! --74.130.133.1 (talk) 02:30, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
since I'm using a computer, for this ip to change, I have to disconnect my computer and shut it off for 24 hours or 48 hours? Please reply here and leave a talkback on my talkpage. --74.130.133.1 (talk) 21:42, 28 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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The Drake Bell Tweet you just reinstated lacked something very important: the photo supposedly verifying Bell's self-made claim about the song being in the top ten contained no dates, nothing verifiable to support what he was saying was true at the time. And, truth be told, anyone could have made that photo with a graphics program or photoshop. Do I think he did that? No. But that's not the point. Self-published, primary sources need to have solid evidence they are real and cannot make claims about oneself that statistics elsewhere can prove. Surely there is a real, secondary source out there that is verifiable? If not, the content needs to be removed from this BLP. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 20:35, 15 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks for your contibutions on ANI. I have tried BLPN, ANI and Oversight on the BLP violations and Disruptive Editing but got nowhere. Have asked other admins for intervention. Guy is an admin and good at hand-waving and making many factually inaccurate statements. As far as I can see WP is very broken. The articles cited from "The Australian" are all misrepresented and multiple non-RS sources are used. But until a robust administrator is prepared to actually check the BLP violations will continue as Guy sees the article content as fine. (This is the second failure of WP to address BLP violations by "motivated" editors I've been a party to. The last involved editor was eventually banned as a DE sockpuppeteer.) Strangely, I have no intention of putting more time into a broken system. Stay safe. 124.171.192.238 (talk) 01:27, 25 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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For your information, the thread wasn't about me or my "mistake". It was about a self-sycophantic editor and their attempt to make themselves out to be something they were not. It's just that you and someone else tried to hijack it into a thread about me. That's why I told you to move on. In the grand scheme of things, my "mistake" was very minor. -- CassiantoTalk 06:42, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there. Thanks for your efforts to rehabilitate the tilde vandal from Warsaw, but perhaps their latest talk page might be a more appropriate venue than mine. Tevildo (talk) 19:51, 30 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding your comments on the ref desk re: sexism. My current approach is that if looks like sexism, smells like sexism, it probably is sexism, and If the day ever comes when sexist comments in online fora always get noted as sexist, I may change my approach. I too thought briefly about what the actual state of affairs may be, but then I quickly remembered that I don't really care what the stats say. This may seem odd, so let me explain:
I suspect you're familiar with this phenomenon: there's a certain breed of racist that just loves to talk about things like incarceration statistics in the USA, and use them as evidence that black people are more likely to be criminals. And if called on their racism, they respond "that's statistics, not racism: statistics can't be racist, and the facts don't lie." Now, I bet you know all the retorts to that, and I really didn't come hear to talk about racism, but only to point out that the actual share of men v.s. women that engage in binge watching has nothing to do with whether that IP was making sexist comments - his comments were sexist, plain and simple. I've been trying to refrain (a bit) from challenging bad behavior on the internet; it's tiring and depressing. But in this case I felt warranted, and I thought you might appreciate an explanation of why. Cheers, and keep up the good work, SemanticMantis (talk) 14:11, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
My main point which I perhaps didn't convey very well was that the OP's comment was offensive, and dumb to boot. But it wasn't as dumb as I originally thought it may be. When I first read it before your reply, I was wondering if the OP's comment was completely wrong i.e. males and females binge watch equally or males binge watch even more. However the first/only statisic I found (I didn't look that hard) suggested there was a small bias. So I decided to leave it be. When I saw your comment, I wanted to offer support but also felt I should point out the very limited/poor statistics I found did suggest a very small bias. However as I belatedly attempted to clarify, even if true this bias is too small to justify the OP's wording.
I'm familiar with the phenomenon you refer to. Actually that bigoted troll from Canada liked to do that in the past. Although nowadays they seem to be mostly doing anti semitic stuff (but I don't look except when I come across their stuff).
Thanks for tracking down the bug that makes mobile questions go to the top. But what to do about it? I'm thinking that Wikipedia:Reference desk/header/howtoask needs to be changed - for example, to change the button from an "inputbox" (which, honestly, is a tag I've never seen before) to an ordinary HTML link with some fancy CSS styling to make it look roughly the same. I'm thinking something like Ready? Ask a new question that simply uses FULLPAGENAME. But is there a reason not to do this I should know about? Wnt (talk) 10:18, 5 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Nil. My newest computer has a broken keyboard, and the older one (2009) has no good licensed image maker, even though I actually made a Gadsen Flag for pay for a Tea Party website quite a few years back. They didn't ask for a rainbow though.
The girls on the street drew one (a rainbow), and my dad hung his Old Glory though. It's nice things have changed so much since I came out 34 years ago. 'Preciate the help. μηδείς (talk) 00:19, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I replied to your post on my talkpage. I'll quickley sum it up:
I didn't mention this, but if what I'm doing is so bad by coming back and admitting mistakes, then why not take it to an/i? Even though my "soc master' is dead since I cannot remember any of my passwords and I'm not creating another account yet. Come on, take me to an/i if I'm that bad still. Let them make a determination. I wouldn't though because you'd be wasting their time for nothing. so how about let's make peace and move on. thanks. 199.101.62.73 (talk) 01:24, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I've made my case, and now I've deleted my talk page. Please do not contact me again and remove me from your list for now. And I meant it when I said I only want a Mancunian blocking me if it absolutely must be done, which it shouldn't. Last time I checked, Malaysia is a few thousand miles away from Manchester, though Malaysians I've met are cool people, love you guys, i had an amazing stay there.
Anyway please leave me alone for now, and let me figure thigns out on where I'm going to go. thanks.
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Sure, will add it to my watchlist. Although according to this 2012 AfD the footballer doesn't merit an article either, unless something has changed since 2012? --McGeddon (talk) 15:21, 7 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You stated "Meanwhile, there's another newish RD regular who I assume I'm not the first person to notice appears to be a reincarnation of an indefed editor." You aren't. Check WP:SPI. --Jayron32 01:16, 1 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks for answering my question on the Miscellaneous Reference Desk! --Aabicus (talk) 04:32, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply] |
BB's comments demonstrate his never ending need to interject in matters he is completely unfamiliar with. Not only is he unhelpful with respect to the questions, he is disruptive, throwing the thread off tract from a solution, and onto utter non-sense diversions. These escapades should be boxed if not entirely removed. 207.87.181.170 (talk) 18:37, 25 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, didn't realize the implications of indenting your answer to my question (which I much appreciate, you clearly did your research). It's simply that your answer was "running into mine", which made things look unclear, and my response was to indent your answer - sorry for causing grief. In future such situations, would it be acceptable as per wikipedia convention for me to insert a line break between the two responses instead, to make things clearer to read? Eliyohub (talk) 13:55, 28 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Are you always wrong? About EveryThing? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fancy nancy schmanzy (talk • contribs) 07:39, 3 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Could be. Not seeing anything definitive in just the history, except Athena-like birth fully formed at the RDs as soon as the account is created. There's a few socks that fit that pattern. If you have any specific diffs that we can compare, either start a new SPI or drop me a note on my talk page and I will look into it in more detail. --Jayron32 21:09, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your final comments at this thread. I was out of town while it archived. Many thanks and Happy Spring Festival. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 07:38, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not seeking argument, I'm fed up with wikipedia's bullshit bias. I used to only use wikipedia for math and basic information, so never saw the huge bias it has. You banning my thread just proved me point, any onlooker will see that, thank you. Money is tight (talk) 09:36, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, sorry if my remark about HuffPo struck a wrong note. It was meant playfully and not as a serious objection. Unfortunately things don't always translate well online, and I apologize unreservedly for any offense that I have caused. I feel especially bad about it because you're one of the good guys. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 02:36, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This post [1] makes unsubstantiated false allegations about my editing. I've done none of the things you state as fact. Please retract and review my moves to mainspace [2] before making such allegations. If you have a concern with a specific page, let's talk about it. Legacypac (talk) 03:39, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I was not watching your talkpage and did not see above post. Thank-you for the thoughtful response. Per your recent comment at ANi... The MfD in question was initiated by me so if he read it before closing he knew that. While checking all of my contributions and editing 42 pages I edited or created first in just one day, Godsy CSD'd the page I already MfD'd. After it was deleted he went back to my MfD and closed it. That volated WP:NACINV and WP:BADNAC as he was obviously expressing an opinion with the CSD and "involved". Now, I've CSD'd pages someone else MfD'd (outside of hounding, that's ok) but I'm wise enough to not close discussions I'm involved in for a number of good reasons. He is rules obsessed right until the rules are read against his behaviour. This is also not a new problem. He lost his RfAdminship 6 months back largely because of his harrassment of me, as pointed out by other editors. I'd quit editing largely because of his antics, and only came back when another editor emailed me shocked he had the guts to do an RfA after how he treated me.
The MfD close, though improper, is not a big deal to me except as it formed part of an entire day where he did almost nothing except hound me. I did not bring it to ANi. It does show the double standard though. Every move I make is alleged to be a violation of some policy I don't undrstand yet every move he makes is justified by selective reading of some policy. It is almost comical if it was not so disruptive. Legacypac (talk) 13:29, 18 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Oh and on BLP - I get BLP policy. There was nothing remotely contentious and nothing that could not be easily verified on either page, and with at least one link they were BLPPROD proof. I tend to batch my tasks which means I'll sort crap from usable material in AfC, occasionally accepting a useful page. You can't edit a page during acceptance very easily. Than, when on the computer not the phone (too hard to edit), I'll go and improve the pages I accepted as needed. I've found there is an army of good editors who tag and improve refs and sort and categorize better than I do, while there are very few editors processing drafts like I do. Also, I've taken to doing my article editing in main space after the moves because my cleanup activity makes my contributions graph look very weird with lots of edits outside mainspace. I leave tons of notifications on talk/user/draft pages so a little balance is needed. Legacypac (talk) 13:49, 18 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Much appreciation for your recent contributions to the Ref Desks, especially in describing the practice of info searching and noting usage considerations incl. copyvio. These are not only WP issues! This manifestly boosts the signal:noise ratio and improves the quality of the RDs for all concerned. Keep up the good work! Deborahjay (talk) 10:24, 19 June 2017 (UTC)[reply] |
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That should be chiseled into the walls around here.
A fellow snipophobe, Anmccaff (talk) 14:41, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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This edit seems unnecessarily bitey (and rather unlike your normal RD behaviour, if I may say so). Matt Deres (talk) 20:26, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Don't undo my policy based closes again. [3] Legacypac (talk) 04:50, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, i consider useful and helpful adding democratic to distinguish the coup attempt. It is a situation where one party claims the other illegitimate, therefore adding democratic elections adds to clarity for the reader. I see several people changing this, so i could be wrong. Also its not a very big change adding the singe "democratic" word. thank you ItsNotmyname (talk) 14:41, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
What do you think of the political views of the protesters on the page? Should their views be on the personal page? I'm referring to "According to the protesters the new parliament majority "did not follow the Rules of Procedure of the Parliament" and was in essence a coup against the Macedonian state.[5]" Also it is referenced by what it seems to be a blog. ItsNotmyname (talk) 15:24, 11 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You made a redirect for Jefferson Davis Park to Jefferson Davis Park, Washington which is great, but I was wondering if it would be a bit confusing as the camp site where Jefferson Davis was captured is also often referred to as Jefferson Davis Park by locals in Georgia[Jefferson Davis Memorial Historic Site]. Are you sure this will not be confusing? Thanks C. W. Gilmore (talk) 09:59, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Why you did this. --NeilN talk to me 05:58, 20 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi Nil Einne, I left a reply to your comment in the Cal Poly talk page. Thank you for your take on this dispute. --Chlorineer (talk) 16:02, 13 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I think if we name that section "surname or patronymic" that's a good solution. What do you reckon? Dr. Vogel (talk) 23:44, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That's a load of nonsense. Quit edit warring. Geogene (talk) 06:33, 8 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Naw, I'm not new to the internet or Wikipedia. I'm sorry for indenting for you. I had gotten the impression we were ignoring Count Iblis' off-target post and shunting it to the bottom, so when your reply appeared below it I misunderstood. Anyway, I see from people's posts to your talk page that you are an irascible curmudgeon like me. Keep up the good fight. Abductive (reasoning) 00:03, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I was going to do that not sure whether or not to do that per the ani discussions and the talk over at meta. Thanks Edaham (talk) 11:17, 31 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry for putting you to that trouble, I should have looked more closely at IPs. Thanks again. -- Paulscrawl (talk) 07:47, 5 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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He is one of the smartest people that I can remember. Please be nice to him. Limited Brain Cells (talk) 18:24, 18 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Obviously neither you nor he/she are happy about your exchanges. I extend a welcome to the dialog on my Talk page. DroneB (talk) 14:47, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That user VXFC has been banned for almost 7 1/2 years now. Do you happen to know what got him banned in the first place? Was it incorrect information, or was it belligerence? (Or maybe both?) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 16:24, 5 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You probably should have taken it to my talk page, but anyway... The original closer's conduct was not a topic of discussion, and the only reason Swarm mentioned it was because David had; had David not there would have been no need to. And David Just. Got. Warned. about canvassing, when the original report had included discussion of the slightly-greyer area of cherry-picking a large number of editors on one's own side when required to notify those on the other side (see the long, off-topic discussion here in which a bunch of editors whose stance towards me is neutral-to-negative and whose stance towards David is neutral-to-positive were pinged with the extremely dubious rationale that they were loosely involved in a discussion that was only kinda-sorta peripherally related to the topic of discussion -- the owner of the talk page in question seemed confused as fuck as a result).
If the notification requirement covered editors whom the OP would want to notify then it would need to be a requirement.
Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 11:28, 31 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
On your question about [9]: citations sometimes provide multiple URLs, for instance both PMC and arXiv. Per Help:Citation_Style_1#Registration_or_subscription_required, "Links inserted with |url= are expected to be free to read by default" and "Links inserted by identifiers such as |doi= are not expected to offer a free full text by default. If they do, editors can use |doi-access=free".
That citation did not specify the DOI access level, so adding an URL is an improvement in that it signals to the users that the publication is in fact open access. Moreover, the Zenodo record is useful because it states the copyright status more precisely.
Adding an URL and a doi-access parameter do not exclude each other, but I agree it would be nice if OAbot (or another bot) also maintained citations (or at least the citations it edits) to improve such information in them. This could be proposed at Help talk:Citation Style 1, I think. Nemo 17:15, 6 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Nemo bis: You seem to have missed the key point. if the publication was open access on the DOI why didn't you simply add "|doi-access=free" when you found it it was open access when you manually checked? Why did you instead add a questionable source? (Note that the problem is not simply over the questionable copyright status of Zenodo content, but also whether it's possible content there has been modified.) Even if you allege both a questionable source URL, and the original source free DOI were better, you still failed to add doi-access free.
I'm presuming from your response that it's not that the DOI wasn't open access in Italy or wherever you were checking from, so you couldn't tell from your manual check. (If you can't check because you're accessing from a institutional internet connection so it's not clear whether you have something due to your institutional access or because it's free, I'm not certain what you can do. But you really should have came up with a solution, perhaps with the help of the community, before going on a mass spree. I don't see the point of mass wasting time manually checking stuff when you're ability to check is so seriously flawed. I mean checking each one of those must take an average of at least 5 minutes or probably more considering the need to check the copyright status, if the document was modified, in some cases who uploaded it, etc. If there were 100 added this means you spent 500 minutes!)
I don't really understand your final comment. As I understand it, per the FAQ OAbot does attempt to mark DOIs that are free when it recognises them, and also does not add URL parameters when they are marked as free (already or by the bot when it recognises the DOI is free). As I said in my ANI comment, I assume the reason it didn't do so here is because it wasn't able to recognise the DOI was free because whoever made the DOI didn't comply with common guidelines like those by Google.
This is unfortunate, but it should not have mattered since you manually checked as I think you have to do since the tool is naturally imperfect otherwise we would just automatically run it on every page. So you were able to recognise far better than a bot could, that the DOI was free and could have simply marked it yourself. As I said, you could have done so whether or not you also decided to override the bot and add a URL parameter when the DOI was free; as is after all one of the points of a manual check, to recognise stuff the bot is unable to. By your own admission, this would be an advantage since people might not otherwise recognise it was free and they therefore may have accessed it from a questionable source unnecessarily.
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Well you seem to bring a new idea to my mind that I never thought of. If you Google websites/articles, people only write articles on how to "pick-up" girls and not how to attract women. By that I mean articles on how to approach women, and not on how to "get approached" by women. I was thinking people didn't write such articles because the idea never occurred to them, or it wasn't possible. However, you seem to bring to the idea where people would be annoyed by that concept. Isn't this like spreading atheism to a theism society? By that I mean, if I Google "how to get approached by women" Google responds no such entries. I feel like I am the 1st person in the world to come up with this concept. Just like a 1st atheist in the world coming up in a world full of theists. So as a kid growing up and surrounded by guys who go "Let's find ways of being the 1st to talk to girls?" I just sit my head back and think the reverse. Unfortunately I don't think the world is ready for such a concept, probably never will be.
Like everywhere, there are also loopholes. So in my 1st msg deletion, I got "Wikipedia is not in the business of helping sociopaths ..." So it's like a loophole, that sort of allows insulting in delete msgs. My problems with City-Data and Reddit actually is generally not on asking women questions because there is no section for that, but talking about gangs. And I think it has to do with the fact that people there are generally White. In the U.S., I live in a lot of Hispanic neighborhoods, and therefore know a lot about Hispanic gangs. So what is the loophole: when you post a new thread, the mod closes the thread stating the rules. But the loophole is a mod can just mysteriously close a thread without stating anything. So in a Puerto Rico island section, I start a thread "What's the largest gang in Puerto Rico?" and after 2 replies the thread is mysteriously closed. In Reddit, when I give out gang information, the threads get sanctioned off. So my speculation is White people don't like the idea of talk about gangs, much like theists don't like the discussion of atheism. And the whole concept of picking-up or attracting women is probably less offensive to ask to Hispanic and Black people - more offensive to people that grew up in a pre-arranged marriages society. 67.175.224.138 (talk) 15:20, 24 November 2018 (UTC).[reply]
This was the original question,[10] and I don't think it really had any responses, so deleting it is fine. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 23:23, 28 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
My friend lives in Glenfield,_New_Zealand. Do you know where she can find an express mail post office? Thank you. 50.68.237.196 (talk) 06:43, 3 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, im not evading a ban, i was banned for ban evasion, but at that time i wasnt actually banned. My ban had expired. I would appreciate you not being retarded and looking at the actual log and use those critical thinking and reading comprehension skills you claim to posses, otherwise tell me how long my "ban" is and i will do more time, i dont care. You cant hide the truth forever,the truth always comes to light. And even if its after my death, 100 years from now people will be reading this archived conversation thinking "can you believe how stupid that mother fucker is? They literally would rather believe ginger in the rear of a horse was more reliable than a heavily documented importation bill in early america." And youll have to live with that, or atleast you decendants will if you ever have any. Flex that internetz powerz, but at the end of the day, you cant truly ban me, and you're the one who will look foolish in years to come. But as i said, if you still choose to claim im ban evadin, give me a wait time and i will wait.
You were community banned per this [11] discussion and your account was indefinitely blocked so you are evading a ban and even if you weren't you would be evading a block. If you feel the ban was improper, you're welcome to appeal it. Until and unless you successfully appeal it, you remain banned and any editing on your part if ban evasion.
If you choose to accept your are banned and want to appeal in the future, WP:Standard offer suggests a minimum of 6 months before an appeal with absolutely no ban evasion. This means you need to stop editing anywhere on the English wikipedia, with any IP or any account be it talk pages, articles or other pages. Yes even my talk page. Since even discounting this edit to my talk page, you evaded your ban with this IP 6 months will start from now if you stop now.
Note when appealing you also need to convince the community that you will able to edit without causing significant problems, especially the problems that got you into trouble in the first place. While I can't speak for the community I will say I've never see anyone who insists that they are definitely right or super smart of whatever and everyone else is completely wrong or an idiot be successful in an appeal. Recognising why the community saw your behaviour as a problem, and how you can avoid it in the future is generally the most basic second step to a successful appeal. (First being no evasion for at least 6 months.)
Note that I have no involvement in your disputes, and have no real knowledge of them. But even if there was no ban evasion, I would assume that you're wrong. Again it's my experience that I can safely assume anyone who insists on how right and smart they are and how everyone else is wrong an an idiot, is in fact the one who is completely wrong and not worth listening to. Most people who are right are able to let the sources speak for themselves.
BTW, since you retain talk page access on your original account, you can edit your original account talk page although you should do so by logging back into your account and can only edit your talk page to appeal your ban. If for some reason you can't or don't want to log back in to your original account, take a ready of WP:UNBAN for other ways to appeal. It will probably also be acceptable to edit your talk page to seek clarification within reason, if you're still confused about aspects of your ban. Although I don't really see what confusion there is. As I said, you are banned end of story and any editing except to appeal your ban on your account talk page is ban evasion. If you think the ban was unfair in any way, you need to appeal it not evade it. Telling people who unfair the ban was, or how smart or right you are or how wrong or dumb everyone else is, is not likely to be seen as an acceptable use of your talk page so I suggest you minimise that.
Note I am cross posting this to your original account talk page since it's the only place you're allowed to edit. I won't report you for editing my talk page provided you don't do something stupid, but I will report you if you continue to evade your ban elsewhere. But others may not be so generous, so I suggest you refrain from evading your ban by editing my talk page. In any case, it doesn't seem there is anything more for you to say. I'm not interested in hearing details of your dispute nor in why you feel your ban was improper so there's little point posting them.
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I barely read what you wrote. As I said in my edit summary, I don't give a damn. As I've told you, edit from your account if you want people to give you the time of day. As long as you continue your ridiculous socking, FkpCascais automatically 'wins'. Maybe you know they will 'win' even if you don't sock because they're right and completely wrong and that's why you're behaving so poorly. I don't know and don't care. I've engaged with socks and other problems editors when I believed it would have some benefit, as I engaged with you and you may see I've done so here on my page and in the talk pages of those who have commented here on occasion. As far as I recall, I've never told anyone to leave me alone specifically (although it goes without saying i want the editor who keeps attacking my page to leave me alone). But I'm telling you now to leave me alone. It's not because I'm particularly bothered about anything you're saying. It's mostly because I truly don't give a damn and I also feel it's the only possible way to get through to you what I've already told you. You need to stop socking if you want there to be any chance you will be taken seriously or for this to be resolved in your favour. I don't give a damn about foolish arguments you try to make that it's not socking because someone edited without logging in accidentally. Editing the way you are intentionally not logging in when you have an account, to engage in discussions internal to wikipedia, is clearly inappropriate as I've told you before. From what you've said, it's likely to be seen that you're evading scrutiny as well. If you aren't Asdisis and instead an editor in good standing then edit from your account. If you are Asdisis or you're some other editor who is not in good standing then stop editing point blank. Either way if I see you editing from an IP (or for that matter some other account that clearly isn't your main account) on my page again, I will revert and ignore. Nil Einne (talk) 10:47, 16 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Wikipedia:DAILYMAIL. Since you had some involvement with the Wikipedia:DAILYMAIL redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Nardog (talk) 04:03, 26 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Nil Einne
I hope to find you here. I shall also post on my own page.
Thanks. Yes, this appears to be an error on my part. MrX made a similar point in reply, so I have not returned to the Talk page. It was not my intention to ignore the ban, and I would like to remove my comment, but as you say, removing it might be a further breach. I hope not. Thanks again. Kiwicherryblossom (talk) 11:28, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It's kinda off-topic for the ANI thread, so bringing it here, but can you give an example? I've mentioned JoshuSasori a bunch (because recent activity by his socks or apparent socks, and at least one meatpuppet) and a couple of editors who accused me of "hounding" them because they showed a poor understanding of either copyright or verifiability or NOR or some such and I went through their edits to verify that it was a problem, because I've recently been accused of hounding by a few editors who didn't understand copyright or verifiability or NOR or some such and needed to explain that no, I know what I'm talking about, and they are walking a very thin line by arguing with me that, for instance, copy-pasting a short paragraph of text is not copyright violation is a pretty quick way to a block.
But I obviously can't explain my activity in context if you just make a generic comment about me talking about unnamed editors.
Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 08:50, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Here is one example [12]. From what I can tell, none of those 3 editors were alternative medicine practitioners whatever alleged promotion they were engaged in. Also, it looks like all 3 are technically still allowed to edit since none of them are subject to active blocks AFAICT, although they've all long retired. Then there's these [13] [14] [15] (and a bunch of others in that thread) [16] [17] [18]. Note that I am not saying you should never mention people involved in historic disputes or cases, I myself have done it and others do it, but you should take care when doing so and especially make sure it's relevant enough to be useful. Continually bringing up random people, especially those you've had significant disputes over, may not be helpful. (Notably if the case is probably unfamiliar to most participants of whatever discussion, and is sufficiently different from what is being discussion, it's often not helpful.)
Even if the other editor is site banned or indefed, you continually bringing them up may give rise to them feeling they're being unfairly maligned. If there is a siteban and probably for an indef, the community feels they have been a significantly problem, but the editor often still doesn't agree and it's generally better for us of these editors aren't offered encouragement to hang around by the perceived need to defend themselves or simply to read how unfair people are being to them. Even if the editor is still hanging around when they shouldn't it doesn't necessarily mean bringing them up all the time is helpful, it actually could easily have the opposite of the desired effect as the editor hangs around in part because they kept bringing brought up. Obviously in sock discussions about them, it is necessary to bring them up, but otherwise not so much. This is why in some ways it's actually more problematic to bring up such editors, whereas an editor who isn't indefed or site ban can reply if they feel your characterisation of them is unfair, and editor who is can't.
This is particularly the case when you've had significant disputes in the past since it means that there's a reasonable chance anything you say is going to be interpreted more poorly then if it was coming from someone they don't know, let alone someone they view positively. You yourself are obviously not neutral either, so your view of the situation may not be how a neutral third party would describe it. While we can understand how frustrated you may feel when you feel you've been hounded or treated unfairly, remember our primary interest is in what makes wikipedia better. And it goes both ways too, even if the editor is now indefed or site banned, it doesn't mean that they were always completely in the wrong so we may still feel sympathy for them. While the sympathy is significantly lessened when they hang around socking, that's more of a case of 'I don't care so much about your feelings given your atrocious behaviour' then 'they never had legitimate grievances' and as I said before ultimately feelings aside, we also want what's best for wikipedia. (For editors able to edit, especially active editors, the flipside is that while they are able to respond so it's fairer, it can lead to lengthy offsides about what you said. And there's still the fact that people shouldn't have to choose between allowing something they consider inaccurate to stand without challenge, or getting drawn into a offtopic discussion.)
I mean even stuff like this [19] [20] [21] [22] [23] (as I said before, a bunch in this thread) [24] [25] [26] should be done with care since the fact that the people aren't named doesn't mean there's no issue. Heck even when the people are a direct example [27] [28] [29] [30] (I include this because while the start seems clearly relevant, the latter part less so) lit doesn't mean you always have to discuss or name them, with the obvious exception when it's important (e.g. to help others understand the extent of the problem or for sock consideration). Remember after all that you yourself were unhappy about being named in the title of the ANI thread.
I want to be clear that I'm not saying any of these particular examples shouldn't have happened, although I did filter out obvious cases like [31] [32], I was fairly inclusive of what I did include and don't know the details about most of them. But do remember as well, even if none of them was really wrong, it may be the totality of the number of times this happens is unnecessary and unhelpful. As an observation, while the COIN example I remembered off hand and the 2 Catflap examples I found by searching, all the rest were found simply by looking at your contribs to the wikipedia name space over the past 2 months in noticeboards or elsewhere it seemed it may happen (I excluded AE/arbcom).
BTW, the main reason I began to notice these was because of Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive996#Requesting rev deletion of inappropriate image addition by IP Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive996#I'm being stalked (maybe trolled) -- anyone know if there's anything that can be done? or more particularly the resulting kerfuffle Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive304#Use of ticket system by site-banned user to get warning about abuse of email removed?. Looking at the case again, the actual mention was actually not so bad but I did get the feeling from you email removal request that you didn't seem to appreciate that just because you're allowed to mention someone doesn't mean you should and from then, I began to noticed how many times you seem to mention someone when it was of limited relevance. I didn't keep a record of them since I was never intending to bring it up, but when looking at the case, it struck me that F+K's observation seemed to be related to what I'd seen.
Du hast Recht".-- Dlohcierekim (talk) 19:36, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, you've indicated that a contribution by a recent IP address is our old friend WickWack again. I'm not seeing the tells or markers, can you perhaps present some clear evidence that it is them? If it is, I'll block the IP and clean up the mess, but since I am not seeing the same things you are, I just need some clarification about what makes it so obvious. Thanks! --Jayron32 14:26, 7 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You may recall Wickwack stated they were a engineer of some sort and often talked about technical (especially electronics or electrical) or physics related issues (e.g. [33] [34] [35])
There has been someone operating from the Western Australian ISPs who has been asking for help for translations or finding non English frequently old science journal or technical documents in similar fields for quite a few years e.g. [36] [37] [38] [39] Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Language/2014 November 17#Meaning of Japanese characters Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Language/2014 March 9#Japanese control knob legends Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Science/2014 March 1#Alloy with electrical resistivity sharply increasing over a certain temperature.
I was under impression there was a clearer link to Wickwack etc, i.e. they asked similar questions with the classical signed posts, but actually I couldn't find anything. Although I did find these interesting, [40] [41] [42], since they seem to me to be clearly the same editor, and the science ones seem to be likely Wickwack to my reading. (One obvious issue is that simply asking for help finding stuff or translations generally leaves a lot fewer telltales.)
I could be completely wrong, one reason why I've been away has been because I've been lazy to dig up evidence, and even now having done a brief look it was harder then I expected. Of course, any comments post topic ban may also have been deleted, and further their IP changed so much and among different ranges that finding linked posts is difficult. But I also don't think I've thought about Wickwack for quite a while, probably since I replied to that evolution thing on someone's talk page a few months back. When I read those questions, my first thought was 'this sounds like Wickwack but I must be wrong since they're American' but then re-read their first post and realised I misread the phrasing and then I checked their ISP and geolocation and decided it was even more likely. When some simple research found the answer to their question was probably Telegraphen- und Fernsprechtechnik, that sealed the deal really.
Still given the evidence isn't as strong as I had expected, if someone other than the IP (preferably not Wnt) wants to re-add the question, I'm fine with that. (Or maybe it's already been re-added, I haven't paid much attention.)
Nil Einne (talk) 13:23, 9 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, looking at your reasoning in this diff (you wrote "support", but didn't you mean to !vote oppose (support is for sanctioning Shrike, oppose is against sanctioning)? Icewhiz (talk) 05:47, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Nil Einne. I understand the problem is that I took all these insults to heart and failed to structure a strategy to convince them. I am a professional man and not used to be treated like that. When I first started the ANI, I had no intention to ban Future.perf, just to give him a lesson about respecting others and make him remove his comments. (i was not aware of the WP:DROPTHESTICK). I feel however no regret about the site or any ban, this whole story gave me a good lesson about how nasty wikipedia world is behind the scenes, how cyberbullying goes away without because its done by a friend, groups of people gather like hyenas to attack another editor. A different person in my case and without strength could had suicide thoughts. I have no intention to spend a single more minute and plan to ban wikipedia from my house and workplace. - Stevepeterson (talk) 12:20, 26 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Nil Einne, It worked. Could you just take a quick look at it when you have some time, as I've never done this before, and double-check it? Thank you again. Nicola Mitchell (talk) 11:53, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hello NE. I think you signed with five tildes instead of four here Wikipedia:Reference desk/Humanities#Mega Millions lottery winner of 1.5 billion. Not a big deal but I thought you might want to fix it. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 08:06, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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hello I am responding to your comments about me editing from Canada. At the village pump, I posted the following, and I hope you can address it. here it oges: Alright listen up, and listen real ultra super good. Anything prior to June of 2018 is not me, if itis a Canadian-based account. thisis Cuddlyable3 all over again. While I was in the UK, I was accused of being a user called Cuddlyable3, they did some checks and guess what, negative. Why do I get the feeling this is the same crap different country? As for my name, I was named for my grandfather. I want these gross accusations either explained or retracted immediately. While I would love to be able to, I am not sending Wikipedia my birth cirtificates and immigration papers to prove that I am a Yemen-born UK immigrent who came to Canada in June 2018. I shouldn't have to go to such lengths to prove who I am. also let's for a moment say I was any of these Canadian users that I some how hid for ages, this page describes why you shouldn't always make wild claims as it's rather hurtful. I am genuinely hurt by these accusations because all I want is to be a good Wikipedian. No matter whether I am editing from the UK or here or even on the road when I go to Africa next week, I want to be a good Wikipedian without being accused of bull crap like this. Sorry for the language, but am I not entitled to be a bit annoyed when i have to go through this accusation crap all over again? First I was cuddlyable3, now I'm comet egypt. There had better be a really good explanation for this because otherwise you guys will have not only shut out a possible good editor from Wikipedia, but you also will have driven him away forever. Just some food for thought. 199.101.61.34 (talk) 09:32, 28 March 2019 (UTC) 199.101.61.34 (talk) 09:32, 28 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I wish there was a way that I could like contact you via phone, so you and I could discuss this and so you can actually hear my voice to hear I am not CXanadian.
199.101.61.34 (talk) 09:46, 28 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I forwarded your e-mail to the OS team without comment (I had trouble making out the content of the screen shot). I was told it wasn't suppressible. You did the right thing, though, to send it to someone, although it would have been perfectly fine for you to send it to the OS team yourself. On an unrelated topic, have you ever heard of archiving? --Bbb23 (talk) 11:11, 8 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @Nil Einne: I have replied to your response on my talk page. Could you respond by any chance? OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 15:27, 23 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The Guidance Barnstar | ||
For your effort and patience trying to help new users I here by award you this Guidance Barnstar. You are a credit to Wikipedia. - Samf4u (talk) 00:22, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply] |
Look I know I was in a heated argument with you the other day. But I have a serious situation of someone impersonating me. I need to know this but can you see the IP addresses users use? I provided mine here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/OrbitalEnd48401#Comments_by_other_users
Is there a bureaucrat I can contact? OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 17:55, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oh sh*t! I forgot about VPN oh fu*k!!!! they can use my IP OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 18:23, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, so the IP evidence will help me, thank bloody god. Sorry I overpanicked. OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 18:27, 24 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
OrbitalEnd4801 please don't block evade on my talk page. I will copy your message to your talk page and reply there. I probably won't reply anymore after leaving a single message on your talk page, but definitely won't reply if you continue to block evade. Nil Einne (talk) 08:51, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to assume that this was a careless error. Please don't do this again. --MarchOrDie (talk) 07:52, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. --MarchOrDie (talk) 08:08, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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A big thanks for your great technical advice and patience with noobs! RetroVector (talk) 16:10, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[reply] |
I'd also note that while I agree that T&S failed in their duty in not providing a simple contact on their page, it doesn't seem that surprising that someone found a way to to contact doesn't make much sense. For starters, while researching this answer I found the meta page on office actions Meta:Office actions. From what I can tell, since 2017 it has had a link to the procedures page [44] [45]. Since 2017 Meta:Office actions/Procedures [46] has said to contact ca@wikimedia.org for (non child protection/DMCA) foundation global bans, later with the addition of partial bans [47]. The history here on en wikipedia is almost similar, Wikipedia:Office actions had the link to the procedures page [48] [49] until it was removed sometime in the recent flurry of edits. The Wikipedia:Office actions/procedures likewise since 2017 has had the ca email for asking for global bans since 2017 although it never had it for partial bans since it was not updated [50] [51]. There is no particular reason to think whoever contacted the WMF was specifically asking for a partial ban.
Frankly, while not excused the lack of contact info on the trust and safety page, if I was concerned about someone and was looking for someone to contact in the WMF, I suspect I'm more likely to come to the pages on office actions than the pages on the trust and safety team.
But anyway, there are also many other ways. For example, you seemed to dismiss suggestions to contact the WMF in general. I'm not sure why. Anyone with concerns especially those less familiar with wikipedia would most likely just find some generic WMF contact and use that. I mean people do it all the time elsewhere, there's no reason to think wikipedia would be different. Heck on the WP:RD and article talk pages and elsewhere, it's hardly uncommon someone will say they want to contact, or think they are contacting some company who's article they were reading. (Although to be clear, this doesn't have to mean it was someone inexperienced. It's also easily possible someone experienced who felt the community would not respond what they felt was appropriately may contact the WMF if they feel it's something important and the WMF should act. If the person is like me, they would probably spend ages finding the right place to contact if needed. I suspect most people will just use a generic contact and explain who they want to contact and/or what it is about.)
Another example, if you look at the user page for many users globally banned by the WMF, it has a notice saying the user is banned and to contact ca@wikimedia.org with any questions. It seems entirely reasonable anyone who came across such a message would use the same email if they wanted to contact the WMF to ask about the process or to ask for it for someone they had concerns over.
Another case, anyone active on wikipedia in the administrative boards, or for that matter arbcom should be well aware of the rash of compromised accounts. (I mean heck, one of the issues which seems to have been a concern to T&S arose from issues surrounding compromised accounts. I know from memory at least some were asked to contact trust and safety to recover their accounts. Admittedly a search for trustandsafety@wikimedia.org only finds 2 although I wonder if some deleted the message after they recovered access. Anyway anyone seeing such a message may not know it was a suitable place to contact if they had concerns over harassment. But it's possible some would just assume from the name it was. Others may have heard of it, or maybe more likely when seeing the mention of trust and safety something they'd never heard of before, they'd go looking and find out what it was about. It's also possible some were told to contact trust and safety and provided the email ca@wikimedia.org. (If the message didn't mention what this email was for, ca@wikimedia.org finds one more in relation to compromised although it doesn't mention it's trust and safety soI think most would just assume it's solely for compromised accounts and so wouldn't look further.
Nil Einne (talk) 07:33, 6 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Ymblanter: Yes this is fairly old, but I hate it when my comments are misunderstood and it's archived so I cannot respond in situ. For clarity about my comment here Wikipedia:Community response to the Wikimedia Foundation's ban of Fram/Archive 5#Reaction to Fram's initial response on Commons dated 10:45, 11 June 2019 (UTC), I think you might have misunderstood what I'm saying. Swarm's reply clearly refers to the L editor 3 times in their post that you responded to that I responded to. 2 times the full username, one time just part of it. Out of fairness to User:Swarm, I think we must assume they at least checked out the L editor's user page and talk page before bringing them up so prominently. The message you referred to on the talk page was extremely prominent and extremely hard to miss. Therefore the fairest assumption for Swarm is that they already read the message on the talk. Anything else would speak very poorly of Swarm. My comment was in no way reference to anyone else the L editor may or may not have a connection to. IIRC I didn't even understand why people kept bringing that other editor up at the time. Nil Einne (talk) 02:47, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Because you previously wrote on the topic, I think you may be interested in commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Bischoff and Rosenbauer, 1988 - Liquid-vapor relations.pdf. Nemo 07:47, 3 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
By the way, I did suggest that the article's owners split up my changes for review. [53] That suggestion was met with silence, of course. EEng 08:13, 13 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I've read your response and will carefully consider what you say. Excuse me where I was abrasive, my apology is that I regarded the admin action as one of several that allowed improvement of the article, better than the circumstances that were effectively locking any improvements and drowning out thoughtful comments. However, I glimpse the points you are making in your reply to the community, and will personally reflect on that when I look at it again. Best regards ~ cygnis insignis 07:53, 20 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I was remembered that you previously stressed the importance of adding doi-access=free to citations when the publication is gold OA. This is impractical to do manually, as there are some 200k articles involved, but there is a proposal to do it automatically: Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/OAbot_3. High quality data is available from Unpaywall nowadays, making the task trivial. Nemo 07:23, 30 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, as someone who took part in the original discussion, could you advise please? Nemo 09:24, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
No content was merged. I only redirected the content because the content either failed verification or was unsourced or was poorly sourced. No explanation was given for keeping the unsourced or failed verification content in the article. There is falsehoods masquerading as facts because there is a citation at the end of the sentence for content that fails verification. It was odd so many sentences failed verification. What do you think the article would look like if all the unsourced or failed verification content was removed? What can or should be done if no editor is allowed to remove unsourced or failed verification content? If editors simply followed verifiability policy the article would not contain much content. Is there a reason verifiability policy should not be followed for this article? QuackGuru (talk) 06:40, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Please see this comment. It is not about improving the article. How can I improve the article when this is happening? QuackGuru (talk) 12:14, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I did comment at AN/I and no editor directly responded to my comment. I also commented on the talk page but others don't seem interested in directly responding to my concerns. What is the point for me to make more comments at the talk page or AN/I when others are not responding to my comments. The answer to the 5 letter question is probably "ashes". Editors seems to be more focused on me rather than trying to improve content about pod mods. QuackGuru (talk) 09:37, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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The scholarly sources have me on the fence. If that's all we got, then do you think it's still a valid choice for AFD, given the questioning about it I got in my topic ban appeal? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 18:16, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Wanted to say I understand your points on the ANI. I saw this editor as having a problem with WP rules and not with me directly. So in that case I brought it to the community. However I do not expect much..in my time here I have found it is a snarly place with a tendency to go sideways quickly. I do not want to keep repeating my points over and over on the ANI and wanted to say I understand yours. If it gets too much at ANI an admin will just close it in frustration. Cheers Lightburst (talk) 15:03, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
your previous topic ban on deletion process is now restored." Note that AFAICT, your corrected statement remains incorrect. There was never any topic ban that lasted 6 months. They were (indefinitely) topic banned with a minimum 6 months appeal period as I said at ANI. I'm not sure why this remains unclear to you. Nil Einne (talk) 19:46, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Did you happen to notice that after Quad11 moved that article, an account that had been dormant for four years just happened to return and add a lot of puffery? Smells like COI and copyright violation to me, but nobody seems to care what I think. Bitter Oil (talk) 22:14, 15 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I reverted JKerman's edits because they said the complex was on fire. In fact, it is the new convention centre, which is under construction, that is on fire this afternoon. It's a block away across Hobson Street. Akld guy (talk) 02:01, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Nil Einne. You recently commented in a thread about this editor which began on 8 October. As you know, the original poster was hoping some admin action, but I held back on the grounds that the editor should get a final warning first, and be given a chance to address the problem. Taking the liberty to post here because I was trying to find either an admin or a long experienced editor who had posted in this thread to see what they think now. On 28 October User:OrgoneBox and User:Grandpallama drew attention to a copying-within-Wikipedia copyvio that requires attribution according to our policy. This took place on 24 October, which was after my final warning. So if you're still following the story, what do you think an appropriate action would be? When somebody just won't communicate it's not very appealing to consider further discussion, so a block ought to be considered. Thanks for any opinion, EdJohnston (talk) 03:29, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Please do not harass me. If you find something wrong, just change it/delete it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidsmith2014 (talk • contribs) 11:29, 9 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Apologies for the long delay in reply, I've had jury duty, an endoscopy with so-so results, and thanksgiving with guests out of town, so Wikipedia (and banking and grocery shopping and a lot of other stuff I'm usually on top of) have been on the back burners for the last so many days. That being said, a timely reply is always appreciated, and in this case I have no excuse.
The problem is actually none of what you or the others wrote, if you look at the article and actually read it then you see several problems emerge. To begin with, their really isn't a credible assertion of notability in this article. WP:GNG states that "'Significant coverage' addresses the topic directly and in detail, so that no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention, but it does not need to be the main topic of the source material. As an example, the page gives that "Martin Walker's statement, in a newspaper article about Bill Clinton,[1] that 'In high school, he was part of a jazz band called Three Blind Mice' is plainly a trivial mention of that band." By that definition the, the souce
disappears as it is, as shown in the citation, a one page mention in the book. Further down on the GNG page you'll find this line: "'Independent of the subject'" excludes works produced by the article's subject or someone affiliated with it. For example, advertising, press releases, autobiographies, and the subject's website are not considered independent." That poses a problem for the first reference given in the article, thats a story written in part by the subject, and therefore couldn't be considered in good faith to be independent of the subject since the two no doubt collaborated for the publishing. A taint source, as it were, which wouldn't be a problem for a notable actress, but in this case there were only three sources to work with. Now we are out two of those, so that just leaves the third source. This one comes from Elle magazine, but covers the subject material more broadly than a biography specific source. So that clears the article's mandate from biography that there be at least one source for a living person.
But that still leaves the article wanting. Ordinarily, the next step would be to start looking for more sources, but its seems that there are not a lot out there to work with. So the next logical step is to pin the article to go somewhere...except there's no evidence as to where it should go. WP:GNG states that "We require 'significant coverage' in reliable sources so that we can actually write a whole article, rather than half a paragraph or a definition of that topic. If only a few sentences could be written and supported by sources about the subject, that subject does not qualify for a separate page, but should instead be merged into an article about a larger topic or relevant list." Logically, then, that would be either to her husbands page or the music releases she's done...except that he doesn't have a page and there is no given link to anything the two have produced separately or together. Without source material to redirect and with the two of the article's sources presumable not in a position to hold the weight of the article as it were we now have an article that appears to be a collection of indiscriminate information, which bumps into WP:NOT, specifically "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information". A look at WP:MUSIC for guidance on who should be considered notable enough for an article also fails to come to the article's rescue, neither Steve nor Lera meet any of the criteria listed for musicians. Similarly, a look at WP:BIO fails to provide any reprieve for the article as well, the first point clearly and explicitly states "People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published[4] secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other,[5] and independent of the subject.[6]" I punched wholes in two sources (which is to a point fine, since the same guideline states "Primary sources may be used to support content in an article, but they do not contribute toward proving the notability of a subject."), and while the third is independent enough to not necessarily get caught in that one source does not a bio article make.
When you scroll further down though, the article really starts to break apart. The WP:BIO policy states that for any biography the person is assumed notable if they can meet one of the following:
Lera can't do that - at least not according to the sources. That brings us to creative professionals, but again, there is nothing in the section to save the article. In her case, as a mail order bride, she could conceivable be classified a crime victim, but those criteria provide no assistance for the article either. That just leaves entertainer, but there's nothing there to save the article. More ominous, in the failing all criteria section, editors are reminded that notability is not inherited; to quote "That person A has a relationship with well-known person B, such as being a spouse or child, is not a reason for a standalone article on A (unless significant coverage can be found on A); relationships do not confer notability. However, person A may be included in the related article on B. For example, Brooklyn Beckham and Jason Allen Alexander are included in the articles on David Beckham and Britney Spears, respectively, and the pages Brooklyn Beckham and Jason Allen Alexander are merely redirects to those articles."
Given this check, I deleted the article. The article's champion - the one who wanted it to stay - took this to deletion review, where the initial outcome was given as no consensus and therefore to remain deleted. When it came to light that no consensus meant restoring the article, an afd was opened, but none of the above was listed because no one though to come back for the rest of us. I've shown above why I think the article should have been deleted, citing WP:GNG, WP:NOT, WP:MUSIC, WP:BIO, and walking you through the rational because I deleted the article under CSD-A7, a speedy deletion criteria, which means I was the one responsible for looking into all of this in the first place. Would it not then make sense to invite me (and the others who were present at the deletion review) to review the original deleter's rational in an open and honest forum where to editors who disagree over a course of action could present their evidence to the community to find consensus among the members? After all the guy who looked into the deletion in the first place must have at least one good reason to red link the article, right? If, as our page on CONSENSUS states, "A consensus decision takes into account all of the proper concerns raised. Ideally, it arrives with an absence of objections, but often we must settle for as wide an agreement as can be reached. When there is no wide agreement, consensus-building involves adapting the proposal to bring in dissenters without losing those who accepted the initial proposal" and "When agreement cannot be reached through editing alone, the consensus-forming process becomes more explicit: editors open a section on the associated talk page and try to work out the dispute through discussion. Here editors try to persuade others, using reasons based in policy, sources, and common sense; they can also suggest alternative solutions or compromises that may satisfy all concerns" why intentionally refuse to reach out to those whose voiced opposition to the article's recreation? In lew of the statement further down that "The continuous, aggressive pursuit of an editorial goal is considered disruptive, and should be avoided. Editors should listen, respond, and cooperate to build a better article. Editors who refuse to allow any consensus except the one they insist on, and who filibuster indefinitely to attain that goal, risk damaging the consensus process" was I then wrong to bring this to ANI? As quoted from WP:AGF, "When disagreement occurs, try to do the best of your ability to explain and resolve the problem, not cause more conflict, and so give others the opportunity to reply in kind. Consider whether a dispute stems from different perspectives, and look for ways to reach consensus." The afd was the perfect chance to do that...but no one came back for us. How then to assume good faith when nearly everyone who believed that the article should be either kept red linked or redirect were in my opinion intentionally kept in the dark about the afd?
Does this perhaps make more sense now, as to why I opened the thread (and came after Oakshade since he was the one who took up the cause of retaining the article)? Two people with differing opinions can find consensus if they work together, but if one takes unilateral action and never informs the other then I conjecture that there was no attempt to build consensus, only a low shot to keep an article that based on my own research - which I never got to present at afd - is in violation of maybe half a dozen policies at the moment and should rightly be deleted. TomStar81 (Talk) 00:34, 4 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Thank you for your lengthy response over at WP:AN about dealing with legal threats and content relating to them. I read it, and I appreciate the time and effort it must have taken to write a reponse like that. I plan on heeding your advice if I ever encounter a similar situation in the future. In addition, I'd like to thank you for modifying the content to reflect what sources actually say. Clovermoss (talk) 22:02, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Nil Einne, thanks for all you do on Wikipedia, and for all your help at BLPN. My you have a wonderful Christmas and a Happy New Year. (and if you don't celebrate Christmas please feel free to take that as a Happy Hanukkah, a great Dhanu Sankranti, a blessed Hatsumode, or whatever holiday you want to insert there.) Zaereth (talk) 08:55, 25 December 2019 (UTC
Hi Nil Einne,
I saw your edit here and thought I would address your comments:
Don't understand why the team structure needs to be removed just because the uncertainty over one driver. In fact the source seems to suggests Katsuta could be competing under a Toyota team B as well, so I don't know but I'm going by what Mclarenfan17 changed to.
The regulations state that a team may enter three cars to score manufacturer points. Hyundai have four crews, but have announced how it will work: two crews (Tanak/Jarveoja and Neuville/Gilsoul) will contest every round and the other two crews (Sordo/del Barrio and Loeb/Elena) will share one entry between them. All of this is detailed in the article.
Toyota, on the other hand, have announced five crews. However, they have not announced how it will work. They could run three points-scoring crews in one team and two in another, or they could run three-points scoring crews and the other two would not be nominated to score points, or they could enter five crews and nominate which three score points on a round-by-round basis.
This, to my mind, is a problem for two reasons:
The consensus was formed after Toyota had named their three main crews (led by Ogier, Evans and Rovanpera) but before they announced the Latvala and Katsuta crews. It seems that an unrecognised assumption underpinned the consensus: that the format always fit the sources. We have never been in a situation where a team has announced more than three crews without announcing how those crews will score points. Mclarenfan17 (talk) 11:24, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Please take a look at InedibleHulk's talk page. Lets AGF and assume that InedibleHulk actually did not know that there was a thing called Gender tab in the preference that helped us to communicate without running into side battles of assumption of Gender. Since he wasn't aware may be he genuinely believed that everyone else just assumed the gender by their names. So there are reasons to forgive him. I can understand your anger for the way InedibleHulk responded. May be InedibleHulk's talk page was the better thread for letting him know that he was seriously off the line.
As for the collapsing, The thread is on his signature. He has already complied and updated his gender. I am not sure what you are going to achieve by continuing the discussion on his response on gender at ANI. Perhaps you want to point out the stupidity, but that has already been pointed out by others. You were late to that thread. Continually discussing it is no longer needed. regards. --DBigXrayᗙ 12:06, 4 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Nil Einne (talk) 15:04, 6 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Skimming joyfully through the ANI discussions around MOS and The Drovers Wife, and just prior to me giving up the will to live entirely (lol), I noticed you had written "...and the proposed recipient isn't illegible for the discretionary sanctions process...
. The context of that sentence led me to think you meant to say "...isn't eligible..." (and neither illegible nor ineligible), so maybe you'd like to check it, either way? Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 08:06, 7 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Howdy. Sorry about the WP:INDENT mess up. I'm usually quite sharp on that. GoodDay (talk) 00:48, 18 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I've deleted your comment. There is a proper WP:CLOSECHALLENGE procedure if you wish an RfC reopened. However, it may be better to take your discussion to the article Talk page. 101.188.235.253 (talk) 09:26, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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@Nil Einne: you brought up a great point. Beyond a reasonable doubt are not given in probation hearings. It's the preponderance of the evidence. I don't think other editor understands that, so they basically edited by adding all this.
I'd suggest reverting the edit and letting the t/p discuss it further.
"In 2016, San Francisco County Superior Court found Chahal guilty of violating his probation in September 2014 for beating another woman he was dating and sentenced him to a year in jail[66];
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here. Sorry.-- Deepfriedokra 03:06, 15 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You write an extensive 5-paragraph magnum opus and then conveniently close the discussion so that no one can reply with a misleading heading: "Collapsing per request of Maineartists who started this"? Really? Wow. Sad ... Maineartists (talk) 23:44, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Thank you for your input and advice. I have added three new sections to the bottom of the talk page as you suggested. Kindly review the case I made for each revision and let me know if you think I have addressed it properly.I know you guys have your hands full so I will be patient.
This is the most offensive section of the bio and if these revisions can be made, the bio will be much more accurate and less defamatory. We are getting some blow back from this para in particular that is affecting us IRL, so this is the section I'm most concerned about.
PS I think it is important to keep the user in question banned from the page. I will not engage with him any further; just hoping he is blocked permanently from editing the page as well as talk (as he has clearly indicated a vendetta with Chris and is emotionally involved). TIA ~ DrL (talk) 19:48, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I was about to delete exactly the same sentences from this article that you did. That doesn't solve this whole situation, but it's a good start. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 02:53, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Don't be too concerned about not knowing where places in Australia are. Even the CIA gets it wrong. They put Dampier and Port Headland on this map of major cities for reasons known only to the CIA. Sydney is on the east coast 5 hours drive northeast of Canberra, which is inland. Newcastle is about 160km north of that. Australia, which according to YouTube does not exist, is very remote with empty oceans on 3 sides. There is rumour of a strange place to the east, full of white clouds, flightless birds and billions of sheep. They say the locals there like to do strange dances wearing weird garb called "jandals" and then sit on one of the sex chairs on their dick, eating fush and chups while drinking bottles of Kiwi blood that they keep in their chilly bins. Yes, it sounds too strange to be true. ;) Kia ora. --AussieLegend (✉) 06:12, 7 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Can you tell me more about why adding someone's real name to their Wikipedia article constitutes a BLP violation? 70.189.209.250 (talk) 22:01, 9 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I've been passing this book review around to explain the violence of the bureaucracy of Wikipedia: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJiiYMNVkpw&feature=youtu.be Kolya Butternut (talk) 23:16, 16 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your patience reg. the Brendan Eich INFOBOX discussion in BLP (linked) and please note the request for the way forward I have asked of you. 115.97.89.52 (talk) 18:03, 25 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nil, thanks for the ping, and your comments on this talk page. I suspect we are not that far apart. The crucial issue to me is interpretation/misinterpretation of primary sources. Where that occurs, or is in danger of occurring, we need to see the text of the primary source, and not confine ourselves to competing glosses on them. Out of perhaps an excess of caution, I have not deleted the secondary sources reporting on, characterizing, or summarizing the Complaint; I have simply added cites to the Complaint itself to the relevant footnotes. Best wishes, Kablammo (talk) 13:09, 1 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there. I am sorry if I am overstepping, but I noticed you are an administrator that frequently handles conflicts between users on the Noticeboard/Incidents page. I submitted a post nearly 24 hours ago on the board and have not received a response yet. I am hoping you or another administrator would be able to help me with regards to the incident. I do not want it to be overlooked as it is getting out of control. Thanks so much. ChrisTofu11961 (talk) 22:33, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Since the question at Talk:Killing_of_George_Floyd/Archive_1#Tou_Thao's_role_needs_to_be_clarified, more recent RS have said what it was. I don't have those sources handy, but, as I recall, they said it was a "restraint hobble". They said that, after getting it out, the cops decided not to use it. Geo Swan (talk) 16:29, 25 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In the ANI last month about the Graham Linehan article, you placed discretionary sanctions on myself, Bastun and Newimpartial. We are currently engaged in an RFC on the article's talk page, and Newimpartial has repeatedly violated the WP:PERSONALATTACKS rule against Using someone's political affiliations as an ad hominem means of dismissing or discrediting their views, such as accusing them of being left-wing or right-wing
with overt suggestions about our perceived political affiliations, likening our reasoning to the far-right [57] and calling it "Trump-ian "[58]. Lilipo25 (talk) 14:46, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I have also asked in the past that Newimpartial stop retaliating against me by WP:HOUNDING my editing. Immediately after responding to my comment here, Newimpartial apparently checked my user contributions in order to revert an edit I made on a page that they have never edited on before, Fred Sargeant [59] This is a tactic that Newimpartial has employed repeatedly when I challenge them or report abuse: they immediately go to my user contributions and begin an edit war with me on another page where they have never edited before. This hounding is against Wikipedia policy and I ask that they be stopped from continuing to do it. Thank you. Lilipo25 (talk) 15:30, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Nil Einne, this will be my last comment here unless you reply to me, as we are in danger of turning this into a long and combative thread on your Talk page. I will only say that this has been an ongoing problem and follows the same pattern: Newimpartial employs bullying tactics like condescension and incivility and (incorrect) allusions to my political affiliations until I feel that I have no choice but to do something (like make this report to an admin). Immediately, Newimpartial shows up on a page where I am editing that they have never edited before and starts reverting my edits with claims that I made them bc of IDONTLIKEIT even though they are legitimate edits, and when I ask them to stop hounding, they profess that the timing is mere coincidence and then slide straight into DARVO, accusing me of personal attacks and aspersions in an effort to make it seem to admins that this is a two-sided fight and not simply bullying from them. I am beyond discouraged over the fact that this last tactic so frequently works for them. Lilipo25 (talk) 16:40, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I said I wouldn't reply again, so I apologize for this and I will refrain from refuting all of Newimpartial's points. But I do want to point out that they are including my asking Wikiditm if they had a COI with Stonewall, the same issue that was taken to the ANI in May by Wikiditm (and which was decided in my favor: it was determined that the issue was merely a content dispute), apparently in an effort to get a different ruling from another admin. Lilipo25 (talk) 18:53, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I will be taking a wikibreak for a few days. As I said at WP:AN, I find it completely disgusting that we're actually considering deleting the work of established Wikipedians just because some fuckhead paid editor later decided to get involved. We don't even do this for copyvios, where we revert to the version before the copyvio when we can. I have no idea why anyone would think we should go further with paid editing fuckery. I understand why undisclosed paid editing angers people, but punishing established Wikipedians by deleting their work because some paid editing later came along and added nonsense is not the way to go. Even if you want to "punish" the clients, remember we often don't know who the client is. Should we "punish" some poor sap just because their company or spouse or whatever once decided to pay a dodgy company for edits? We should also remember what we are here for, to create great encyclopaedia content. If some long term editor voluntarily spent their time and effort to create an article which was WP:Notable and otherwise complies with our policies and guidelines, why on earth are we harming the encyclopaedia by deleting that work just because some greedy fuckhead later decided to violate our ToU, getting paid without disclosure by some unknown party for their work when we could just revert, revdel if you want, the contributions of that fuckhead? Nil Einne (talk) 18:28, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
hey dude, just wanted to start a discussion here about one thing you mentioned which is think tends to be unclear to many people not from the US.
Murder is what I referred to as it's normally taken to mean a specific crime at least in many common law jurisdictions in the anglosphere.
the United States (both the federal system and 49 of its 50 states), and Zimbabwe. Some of these countries have variants on common law systems. In these countries, common law is considered synonymous with case law.' While the US has adopted codification of all crimes, they still use the common law system with e.g. it's reliance on case law and precedent as an important part of the law. The fact there is no federal general common law doesn't mean the US doesn't mean the federal court system in the US doesn't use common law, it just means they mostly only interpret the statutes and the constitution, as the section the part you quoted came from makes clear. Try telling a lawyer that case law isn't particularly important in the federal court system and see how far you get..... I'd also note this discussion was concerning something which came under Minnesotan state law anyway. If you're still confused, I suggest you try re-reading those articles. I'd note that this is largely besides the point anyway, the greater point is that AFAIK despite their early split, the historic relationship and close connections means the crime of 'murder' still has similar definitions in general (despite some obvious strong differences e.g. relating to self defence and felony murder) in all jurisdictions in the US (including I believe Louisiana despite them not using common law), all jurisdictions in the UK (again I think this includes Scotland despite their differences), and most Commonwealth countries who still use a common law system strongly influenced by their historic connection the the UK (mostly influenced by the system used in England and Wales); and of course this also means that especially in those places (which also tend to be the places where English is used especially in their legal systems), the English word 'murder' carries those specifics connotations with a general clear distinction from manslaughter, both of which will normally be considered forms of homicide. While things aren't necessarily that different in many civil law jurisdictions when it comes to how various forms of homicide may be treated, the precise words and their meaning can vary a bit more especially since most of them don't use English. E.g. as I understand it, article 299 of the Greek penal code covers both murder and manslaughter, in different sections sure, but from what I understand, the terminology difference isn't as distinct as the murder vs manslaughter we use even if it's sometimes translated that way to try and reduce confusion [60] [61]. Likewise Murder in German law illustrates what seems to be a difference. (Notably "murderous intent" sounds quite different.) My ultimate point was to acknowledge there are places where things aren't so clear cut while also pointing out that despite that we should take great care with the use of the word 'murder' when it comes to living persons given the way the term is generally understood. (I didn't really touch on colloquial uses e.g. meat is murder, calling providers of legal abortions murderers, etc since I felt that was unnecessary.) Nil Einne (talk) 08:00, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi - A request edit from May 18, 2020, has still gone unanswered despite two notifications at the BLP Noticeboard. As you are the editor who unarchived one of these requests previously and you addressed the request edit from Dec 3, 2019, I wanted to ask if you would review the current request edit: [62]. Please note, I have a COI which I have disclosed in relation to this matter - which is why I am not editing it on my own. JZ at LW (talk) 15:00, 27 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, I’ve tried to keep my latest article RFC as brief and neutral as possible. Could you tell me if this RFC is more like what you recommended on an earlier article? It has been over a decade since I properly did one, I’m very rusty. - Chris.sherlock (talk) 09:51, 29 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Nil, thank you for keeping an eye on the WP:LEB satellite pages. Unfortunately I have been the sole curator of the page for more than a decade. I know every nook and I have blanked those pages that are not needed anymore. Please do not reinstate the previous versions until they are deleted. Regards. ~ Elias Z. (talkallam) 14:04, 2 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Have a very happy first edit anniversary!
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Over here you wrote that, "I see that thread is like 2 months old and..." and I just want to observe that actually the thread in question is only 3 days old. I don't want to send the discussion into more of a downward spiral than it already is in, but I thought I should perhaps offer that clarification anyhow, so I'm doing it here. jhawkinson (talk) 14:07, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
thank you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:26, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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All your Ali express links are broken for me. Elizium23 (talk) 19:16, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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If not, sorry for bothering you. Have a great day! Dswitz10734 (talk) 15:41, 28 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I request your help with Christine Fang. You seem to know something about the policies of WP:BLP.
Years ago, Fang was followed by the FBI for fundraising with the Chinese community and fraternizing with politicians. The FBI didn't make a case, and when rumors circulated in 2015 she left the country. Scandalous details were leaked a few days ago to Axios, with a sensational conclusion spies are aggressively attacking the US. It became newsworthy for the embarrassment to politicians "linked" to her (Eric Swalwell). This biography page is just a readout of the Axios article. None of the usual biographical details are known, but the top line factually says she was an "intelligence operative for the Chinese Ministry of State Security". Other editors have dismissed my calls to follow WP:BLP and seem determined to emphasize all the circumstantial evidence to persuade readers she really was a spy. Thanks for your assistance. Travelmite (talk) 11:34, 13 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Nil Einne! Thanks for all your help and participation at BLPN. I mostly find your reasoning sound and your arguments well thought and clearly stated. Many times you have even changed my mind on an issue. Thanks again for all your comments, and I wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! I don't know if you celebrate Christmas on your side of the globe, so if not simply take that as a gesture of good will, or insert your holiday of choice. I wish the coming year to bring you much happiness and joy. Zaereth (talk) 04:15, 24 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What do you think of this edit, followed by this edit? Perhaps I may not be "up on all the technology" but as a man of IT for 30 years, this sounds precisely like B as in B, S as in S. I reported the username to WP:UAA where it was deemed not in violation. I am not sure what to do other than calling the guy out, to see if he flees. I also want to revert him silently per WP:DENY but if he's being honest, then I'm the fool. Your opinion, good sir? Elizium23 (talk) 05:06, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. You had participated in the 30-day RfC of Sherdog.com's reliability at RSN here Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_318#Sherdog.com and in the end it was closed to be used only for some basic fight information in the absence of reliable sources such as ESPN, on a case by case basis and with that fact that additional considerations apply on top of it (option 2 or 3).
But some editors (NEDOCHAN, Cassiopeia, Squared.Circle.Boxing, and a couple more) who voted for the reliability of Sherdog.com in the RfC, still enforce the usage of Sherdog.com as the most trusted source on MMA-related pages and go edit-wars for it. They are like a small organized gang of editors that have taken anyting MMA-related hostage on the Wikipedia and act like owners of the whole site. It would be nice if you could help with the enforcement of the result and consensus that were reached there since you helped reaching the consensus in the RfC. Thanks in advance.78.190.164.254 (talk) 16:02, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
They are especially active on pages Conor_McGregor, Tony Ferguson and Dan Henderson, trying to enforce the usage of Sherdog.com as the source over reliable sources such as ESPN, Fox, UFC.78.190.164.254 (talk) 16:08, 23 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Nil. With regard to the subject's notability, I was not saying he is ONLY notable for the arrest and the porn career - only that the overwhelming majority of the coverage in reliable sources is about those two things. Yes, he had an article in 2017, but if you look at the history, the article was very sparse until 2020. Meanwhile, the body of the article contains a lot of info about the arrest, and the porn career, and there are plenty of sources about both, but I didn't think that it was necessary to include all of them, like a laundry list. I could do so if needed. It is my understanding that the lead should include a short summary of the detailed info in the body, and not skip over things that are significant. More than half the article is about those two things, so I think they should be mentioned in the lead. Wes sideman (talk) 15:02, 2 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nil, I'm not sure why you'd consider me having expressed genuine regret (not an apology!) that an editor is feeling vexed about whatever as having any sort of Non-apology apology pretense, because I don't do that. Just letting you know that I took offense to you intimating it being otherwise. El_C 21:13, 20 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the heads up. I didn't read the comment until today after it was excised. Funny how calming a weekend can be around here. :-) Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:00, 1 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Nil Einne. I'm not sure if you're aware of the current community consultation around Discretionary Sanctions but as someone who has participated in DS related activities recently I'd like to invite you to participate. You have the opportunity to participate at whatever level you wish; there are questions that are higher level (theoreticaly) in scope as well as opportunities to give feedback about specific areas of DS. The consultation will run through April 25th and I hope you'll participate. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:25, 14 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for fixing the closing tag on the science reference desk. For some reason, I've never been able to figure out why mine weren't working. Now I know to put it on another line! --OuroborosCobra (talk) 14:16, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi
So you're trying to block me now? After completely failing to a) how to respond to the fact that the WikiLeaks link matches third party sources, and b) no information anywhere from third party sources has information that contradicts the WikiLeaks source? Block me, destroy me... whatever.
I never thought I'd meet such an authoritarian approach here on Wiki. You refuse to discuss the source at hand and you do everything in you're power to 1) break up the discussion we have, 2) make edits that completely destroys my trust with you and 3) formulate absurd accusations.
I could probably say sorry, but you don't seem to comprehend the way you act is absolutely terrible. YOu seem to want an apology from me, but don't understand I have has much right as you to get one. --Ruling party (talk) 08:16, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
But here ... THis is a scanned book by the Organization Commission of the LPRP published by someone on Facebook... Again everything points in the opposite direction of you're position.
--Ruling party (talk) 08:41, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Happy first day of summer, Nil Einne!! Interstellarity (talk) 14:27, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Now that you've effectively called me silly on the ANI "White supremacist" thread let me point out to you that the "deadline" you referenced was something cooked up by EEng. So you support making threats on Wikipedia? Dynasteria (talk) 17:02, 26 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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To be clear, your unfounded accusations of paid editing are personal attacks. Personally, I find your accusation against me so dumb that I don't care. However if you keep at it, someone is eventually going to block you. So if you want to keep editing here, you need to stop. Note that this is not a threat to block you. As I've told you at least once, I do not have the ability to block you, anymore than I have the ability to delete images.
I'd also note that while I don't care enough about the personal attack to pursue it further, I do care about BLP. Your comments so far IMO are okay but getting close to BLP violations. They don't quite cross it yet, but if you do cross the BLP line again, I will ask for you to be blocked. Again this is not a threat to personally block you. Indeed, as much as I care about BLP, even if I had the ability I'd incredibly unlikely I'd block you since I'm clearly WP:INVOLVED and in the unlikely event I felt it severe enough to block you rather than just report you to ANI, I'd open a thread on ANI immediately after I blocked you so my actions could be reviewed.
BTW, you are the writer of an article about the conflict between Chloe Melas and Morgan Freeman so you have a COI about anything related to the conflict between Chloe Melas and Morgan Freeman, whoever writes the content. In fact, while you are not mentioned by name in the text you reverted, it relates to a blog written by you as you must know, so you are re-introducing text which is directly about an article you wrote. By the same token Chloe Melas and Morgan Freeman have a COI about the whole conflict whoever wrote the content whether here on Wikipedia, or the external content we are linking to. In the same fashion if I really was employeed by CNN, I would have a COI about pretty much anything related to CNN, no matter if I'd never even heard of the people at CNN involved.
To be clear, in all cases the conflict would arise even when the editor is simply reverting an edit. Indeed the conflict would arise even when reverting vandalism, although reverting clear-cut vandalism is one instance when it's acceptable to directly edit despite having a conflict of interest. That's how conflicts of interest work. You're a journalist, you should not need this explained to you.
As it seems you and others believe can jump on my talk page to threaten me and trying to gaslight me with impunity, then I wrote you directly here, that you and others will not succeed now or anytime.
Damn. I was already trying to sleep but wikibullies like you Nil Einne trying to fool not me but those people believing Wikipedia is in some way a dependable source of information, seems never rest.
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To be clear, your unfounded accusations of paid editing are personal attacks. Personally, I find your accusation against me so dumb that I don't care. However if you keep at it, someone is eventually going to block you. So if you want to keep editing here, you need to stop. Note that this is not a threat to block you. As I've told you at least once, I do not have the ability to block you, anymore than I have the ability to delete images.'
To be clear, it´s the conduct of those like you that put the suspicion on you
As I wrote to Fences the possibility of a block, even a permanent ban is contemplated. Because as I wrote to Jimmy Wales, during my research I saw too much corruption here to believe that the image sold to most of the Media it´s the truth.
Why to stay here to be pushed by bullies like you to write and accept what you impose as "truth?" So if that´s happens, it will be in my terms:
If I´m being kicked out from here it would be like I was kicked out from Wikimania15 for attempting to ask Wales on paid editing. So, it was JW who had something to hide and to be ashamed of, not me. Same with you and your kind here about silence me using any excuse. Remember:I RECORD EVERYTHING.
LOL. So you had zero interest in erasing the photo that proved that El Mundo supported my POV when you falsely said it was the opposite? Hard to believe.
I'd also note that while I don't care enough about the personal attack to pursue it further, I do care about BLP. Your comments so far IMO are okay but getting close to BLP violations. They don't quite cross it yet, but if you do cross the BLP line again, I will ask for you to be blocked. Again this is not a threat to personally block you. Indeed, as much as I care about BLP, even if I had the ability I'd incredibly unlikely I'd block you since I'm clearly WP:INVOLVED and in the unlikely event I felt it severe enough to block you rather than just report you to ANI, I'd open a thread on ANI immediately after I blocked you so my actions could be reviewed.
Well, you can pretend to be generous, but as I proved before it will be no easy for you to gaslighting me.
Change your ways and be precise, my guy. You can argue at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard using exact words where are "the BLP line" you claim to know so precisely, instead of using it as other of your veiled threats.
BTW, you are the writer of an article about the conflict between Chloe Melas and Morgan Freeman so you have a COI about anything related to the conflict between Chloe Melas and Morgan Freeman, whoever writes the content. In fact, while you are not mentioned by name in the text you reverted, it relates to a blog written by you as you must know, so you are re-introducing text which is directly about an article you wrote. By the same token Chloe Melas and Morgan Freeman have a COI about the whole conflict whoever wrote the content whether here on Wikipedia, or the external content we are linking to.
More fake COI bs. As it was stated for the beginning, Wikipedia editing has been done to favor Chloe Melas. Why then don't put again the information on her privileged upbringing, that it was erased to favor her against Freeman at the time? That´s a fact, and the bs done against me it´s just part of that. I wrote a piece that it has never been refuted, denied, debunked, sued, rebutted... but I suffered repression like an anonymous attack promoted by CNN spokeswoman, Mariana Pinango. So, it´s absolutely irrelevant my position on that, because the piece exposing CNN-Melas fabrication now exists beyond me and it was widespread, and shared by many
If you erase any reference of that you´re disguising censorship under a fake COI concern.
In the same fashion if I really was employeed by CNN, I would have a COI about pretty much anything related to CNN, no matter if I'd never even heard of the people at CNN involved.
To be clear, in all cases the conflict would arise even when the editor is simply reverting an edit. Indeed the conflict would arise even when reverting vandalism, although reverting clear-cut vandalism is one instance when it's acceptable to directly edit despite having a conflict of interest. That's how conflicts of interest work. You're a journalist, you should not need this explained to you.
Again, trying to gaslighting me will not work.I published a paper on COI, but I will need to write another one to show in detail why you´re lying and trying to disguise the censorship to favor Melas. https://www.academia.edu/10329106/El_conflicto_de_inter%C3%A9s_o_el_surrealismo_sin_poes%C3%ADa_de_la_vida_p%C3%BAblica_mexicana
If you are or not in the CNN payroll, your hiding behind a pseudonym make it impossible to check it that, as any other COI you could have. In some sense, like the famous Essjay controversy, you can claim to be an expert on how COI works, when in fact CNN pays you.
A pseudonymed user like you should not need to be explained that, by definition, you´re not accountable, so you can edit in the sense that the one paying you wants you do it.
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I am tired of how much editors on Wikipedia are given free range to second guess and attack everything I say. I am also tired of never being able to defend my views. I will admit that my languae of "bigot" and "hate speech" maybe got too heated, however I am very frustrated that every time I try to improve discussion about The Church of Jesus Chist of Latter-day Saints all such attempts are halted. I am still seething from the dleetion of the articles on Michael U. Teh and Benjamin de Hoyos and dozens of other general authorities that I created. I am very frustrated. It seems no one ever listens to me or allows me to make any contributions to Wikipedia.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:59, 25 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, what Discretionary Sanction mean? Why I am being sanctioned? What are the consequences of the sanction? Marcelus (talk) 19:08, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Nil Einne,
I sincerely hope your holiday season goes well this year especially with what we went through last year. I'm optimistic that 2022 will be a better year for all of us: both in real life and on Wikipedia. Wishing you the best from, Interstellarity (talk) 18:43, 21 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Nil! I just wanted to stop by and thank you for all you do here at Wikipedia, and especially for all your help at BLPN. Your help in this most important area is very much appreciated. And, if you don't celebrate Christmas, then please take it as a Happy Hanukkah, a great Dhanu Sankranti, a blessed Hatsumode, a really good Saturday, or whatever holiday you want to insert there. Zaereth (talk) 07:59, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Armduino (talk) 09:43, 17 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Howdy, I've moved on, from that meta vote topic. GoodDay (talk) 02:22, 15 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for replying on the Joseph Lapado article talk page regarding additional edits to it. I have added my two cents there and would appreciate your review and constructive discussion on that talk page to possibly further edit the article. Have a nice day.2600:1700:7610:41E0:395C:1E6D:BCA1:377B (talk) 21:57, 27 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've spent a while looking into your suspicion and agree with it. Blocked and tagged. Thanks very much for bringing this to my attention.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:05, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Things almost got a little heated, you are indeed correct and I must apologize to you. Do accept my apology Nil. I would be contacting the other party involved to have a meaningful conversation. Celestina007 (talk) 18:54, 30 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, as you point out here, that poisoned pastries won't “help Russian soldiers see civilians as civilians”. In addition, I find it lacking humanity (sense #1). Do you see any chance for outsiders such as us to do anything about it, other than stepping on soapboxes, talking to people that have nothing to do with it? I have frequent contact with Ukrainian refugees, but only briefly with each, and my language skills aren't up to the challenge of explaining that; let alone that it's doubtful whether any of them could do anything about it. ◅ Sebastian 13:24, 6 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your work at Gerald Ward (biker), I was rather daunted by the details. - LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 13:18, 30 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for your response to me. It helped me finally get some much needed rest. I appreciate that you cared, truly. Looking back, I'm surprised how strongly everything affected me. But I understand it to an extent. I felt like I was at war with myself in regards to what to think and what to support and being sleep-deprived certainly didn't help. It made me feel helpless, honestly. I didn't sleep much for two days straight. I hated feeling like that. Actually being able to sleep helped clear my mind, but I think I'm going to avoid commenting there in the future if that can be the result. I'm definitely stopping at this point. There's no need to wilingly put myself through that kind of distress and you're right that I don't owe Wikipedia anything. Clovermoss (talk) 04:01, 15 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Ni Einne, pls read the ANI and the article history prior sending me the BLP DR alert, for I am NOT the one who reverted the info. Pls read and check first.00:11, 16 May 2022 (UTC) Cassiopeia talk 00:11, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
That would have been a great way to both teach the OP while recognising the great work they did but it isn't what you did, instead you falsely accused them of vandalism while ignoring the BLP violation they were correcting. You then went to ANI to once again ignore the far more serious issue of an actual BLP violation that the OP was dealing with and instead defend your inappropriate actions. Repeating for one final time, this is not the sort of behaviour which is acceptable for an experienced editor, especially not for an experienced editor who says they deal with a lot of MMA articles i.e. a lot of articles involving living persons. Nil Einne (talk) 13:08, 16 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]Hey thank you greatly for identifying that BLP violation. It's unfortunate it wasn't noticed and dealt with before, we'll try to do better. But just to let you know, you accidentally reverted my update ranking update. Perhaps you edited an old version or used the undo button. Do take care to only do these things if you're absolutely sure it's what you want to do as they will remove potentially helpful updates. If you just want to remove a problem, make sure you just edit the latest version rather than using the undo button or editing an older version.
Hi Nil Einne, I've recently been looking for editors to invite to join the new page reviewing team, and after reviewing your editing history, I think you would be a good candidate. Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines; the new page reviewing team needs help from experienced users like yourself. Would you please consider becoming a New Page Reviewer? Kindly read the tutorial before making your decision (if it looks daunting, don't worry, most pages are easy to review, and habits are quick to develop). If this looks like something that you can do, please consider joining us. If you choose to apply, you can drop an application over at WP:PERM/NPR. If you have questions, please feel free to drop a message on my talk page or at the reviewer's discussion board. Cheers, and hope to see you around, (t · c) buidhe 20:30, 27 May 2022 (UTC)[reply] |
Rather than add fuel to my OP, I should point out that the subject was highly notable before the switch. Doug butler (talk) 00:06, 5 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello Nil Einne! Interstellarity (talk) has given you a bit of sunshine to brighten your day! Sunshine promotes WikiLove and hopefully it has made your day better. Spread the sunshine by adding {{subst:User:Meaghan/Sunshine}} to someone else's talk page, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. In addition, you can spread the sunshine to anyone who visits your userpage and/or talk page by adding {{User:Meaghan/Sunshine icon}}. Happy editing! Interstellarity (talk) 22:09, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply] |
Happy first day of summer (or winter) wherever you live. Interstellarity (talk) 22:08, 21 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I really didn't want to get into it either... but here I am. I suspect it's a position shared by others, but just your simple comment is appreciated. — HTGS (talk) 00:18, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There was no allegation (of any substance whatsoever) of paid editing. There was an allegation of conflict of interest on the part of a supporter (of a politician with a huge supporter base).
Your personal feelings about paid editing, as strong as they are, do not trump WP:BLP, do not permit the making of completely evidence-free serious allegations about a WP:BLP, and do not exempt Wikipedia from compliance with defamation law. There is no amount of deep feeling about the concept of paid editing that justifies simply making up a completely unsubstantiated claim that a public figure engaged in it and then inserting that claim into their article.
A false allegation was made about a WP:BLP and that false allegation ended up in the newspapers on the basis that Wikipedia made the false claim. That's indefensible by any reasonable measure. It is, however, far from the first time hardcore anything-goes attitudes among some Wikipedia editors have crashed into the realities of WP:BLP issues.
That you would try to threaten someone for insisting upon the removal of a plainly unsubstantiated allegation whose publication on Wikipedia made a national newspaper is phenomenally inappropriate and a sign that perhaps you need to take a step back from related issues. The Drover's Wife (talk) 09:40, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I'm Loginnigol. I noticed that you made a comment on the page User talk:Loginnigol that didn't seem very civil, so it may have been removed. Wikipedia is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner.
What on earth are you're talking about? You have not provided any information what I did and where. I have zero idea what point you are trying to make and hereby give you a warning not to get involved in personal attacks. —Loginnigol 08:47, 29 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Loginnigol: I was referring to this edit [65] of yours. I intentionally did not link to it before since I did not wish to draw attention to it as it's not really possible to do so without revealing the name and the specific case does not matter. I was hoping you would take on board the warning and correct your edit going forward.
I will not apologise for my message. As I mentioned, you were already made aware how strictly we take editing on gender related disputes with the alert you were given 1 month ago. While you were not technically aware we apply the same standards to BLPs, you were informed of this in 2019 so should really have been aware of that as well. In any case, I've now given you the necessary alert so you are aware. And so it should be obvious that what you were doing covers two areas where we need editors to take extra care which you did not do.
Even if you were not aware of the community consensus on former names of transgender and non binary living persons, the specific issue of the former name you were trying to add in the edit I highlighted was already discussed on the article talk page before your change. Your edit summary also indicated you were aware that there was controversy over the inclusion of the name.
Despite all that, you made a serious BLP violation by including the name in violation of clear community consensus on the issue. Given that, it was reasonable for me to give you a a clear warning not to repeat that shit again. As I said, the specific article does not matter. If you violate WP:DEADNAME on any article on the English Wikipedia again and I see it, I will be taking you to WP:ARE and asking for sanction whatever nonsense you want to claim about me "personal attack"ing you.
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Happy First Edit Day! Hi Nil Einne! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of the day you made your first edit and became a Wikipedian! CAPTAIN RAJU(T) 16:06, 10 October 2022 (UTC)[reply] |
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Regarding this comment you made[66], I went to inspect the article of Juan Carlos Girauta one of the people complaining about Wikipedia's bias. A more than a third of the the text in his article consists about some outrageous coments he has made... The resulting coverage can not be considered neutral. I proceeded to add a non-neutral tag on the page.. and look the kind response I got [67]. Honestly the editing atmosphere on Spanish and Chilean political issues is getting toxic. It would be of great aid to have more editors involving and warning people of personal attacks. Dentren | Talk 07:18, 31 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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If your intention with this comment was to chill discussion, you succeeded. There was no evidence whatsoever that any involved editors [would] refuse to accept the consensus
, either there or on the article Talk page. Wouldn't it have been sufficient to, you know, assume good faith on the part of experienced editors in good standing? And no, you do not need to answer that. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 14:35, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
you probably shouldn't edit BLPs either, and at least don't try get in the way, thank you for clearly defining your interpretation of WP:5P4. JoJo Anthrax (talk) 18:18, 14 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, this is John Gaeta. I very much am grateful for the volunteers that removed the hate speech and threats from my page. I was relieved to see a lock put on editing .. but now I see that that lock may have been removed which I am VERY woroed about. It should stay in place, for a long time. If there is any way to reinstate it pls do. Yensiwtlad (talk) 03:05, 16 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Per your user page: you've got mail. Mathglot (talk) 07:55, 17 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Just saying, if someone starts adding LGBT-categories to that article, I will oppose it:[69] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:50, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Just FYI, the tag is <s>...</s>
not <strike>...</strike>
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You're mean, please stop, and give good criticism,. Yusuf Michael (talk) 06:10, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, sorry for the late reply. I understand completely why you did what you did. 67.87.26.220 (talk) 18:24, 25 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, saw a few of your comments recently at ANI; just wanted to let you know about the edit conflict template. I like abbreviating it to ec like so:
{{ec}}
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Hi! I just want to say thanks for jumping onto the Colleen Ballinger talk page. I've found the discussion very frustrating and discouraging as a new editor! Was seriously questioning my ability to appraise certain issues after regularly being met with dismissal from a seemingly united front of experienced Wikipedians. You've echoed some of my opinions on those issues, which is validating, but really, your general call for impersonal editing is very nice to see :) Goodlucklemonpig (talk) 23:17, 5 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Testing reply tool Nil Einne (talk) 13:32, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
My name is Laura and I work for Joanna Shields, Baroness Shields, a baron, businessperson, and former British politician. The page about her was recently tagged for COI and advert issues due to some poor edits made years ago. I posted here regarding my desire to address the substance of the tags with a re-write or heavy trims, to remove the promotional content. I was hoping you might be willing to chime in on the proposed trims and/or the suggestion for a rewrite. Let me know. Best regards.~~~~ LauTad89 (talk) 14:48, 6 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I wanted to share this diff[70] with you from a few years back when I staked out exactly the sort of position you're talking about, to reassure you about my thinking. Somehow, I think the way I formed my opinion at the Rebekah Jones ANI discussion led you to believe I endorse punitive blocks, or was advocating for some sort of blanket action against COI accounts. There's a good chance that's because I wrote very briefly and quickly, and I wasn't as precise as I usually try to be with my comments on the noticeboards, so I apologize for that. I've always highly respected your opinion there, and so while I know you and I might not see eye-to-eye on all the details around a topic like this, I was bothered that you might walk away from that conversation believing I was really pushing for something ugly on Wikipedia. I suspect that, on the broad strokes, you and I are probably in agreement. It's clear my comment(s) got you worked up, and I didn't mean what you have taken me to have meant, but I think it was my fault for not being clearer. Grandpallama (talk) 04:19, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thinking about your summer break? Think about joining other Wikipedians and Wikimedians in Golden Bay / Mohua! Details are on the meetup page. There's heaps of interesting stuff to work on e.g. the oldest extant waka or New Zealand's oldest ongoing legal case. Or you may spend your time taking photos and then upload them.
Golden Bay is hard to get to and the airline flying into Tākaka uses small planes, so we are holding some seats from and to Wellington and we are offering attendees a $200 travel subsidy to help with costs.
Be in touch with Schwede66 if this event interests you and you'd like to discuss logistics. Schwede66 09:14, 13 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi Nils Einne. I wasn't sure I understood you well at BLPN concerning the Mika Tosca page, and I wanted to clarify here. The OP, user Hadees, has only commented twice on the talk page in question. Both times were near the beginning of the current discussion, and it was to request an edit and (assuming good faith) to once clarify the request. The rest of the current conversation has been EC editors. Am I missing something? I agree that further participation on Hadees part would be both unhelpful and also not policy compliant. Thank you for leaving the contentious topics template. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 17:01, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Block_request Notice as required. Buffs (talk) 16:57, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Congratulations. jp×g🗯️ 00:38, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the confusion over the point that Buffs was making stemmed from your combination of two of Buffs' points.
I find it completely ridiculous that we have a discussion result no one is willing to overturn due to bureaucracy despite a general consensus of the public that this is the most likely origin.
None of these are a "small minority. They are, at worst, a sizable minority and, at best, a solid majority. He then referred to an opinion poll of US citizens and a poll of UK scientists.
When you combined these two points, you created a new point: that Buffs thinks that the opinion of citizens of the United States represents the wider world (evidence of what the majority is Americans believe is enough to demonstrate what's a "general consensus of the public"
). This is a point that is suggested by what Buffs said, but you didn't give Buffs a chance to state whether or not that was the point he was making. You assumed that that was the point he was making, then accused him of making it. Perhaps this whole incident could have been avoided if you had simply asked him whether the point you thought he was making was the point he was actually making.
You then said things such as you've provided absolutely no evidence that it is not a small minority opinion
despite the fact that Buffs did provide evidence. The onus is on you to provide refuting evidence, or, at the very least, to call the evidence into question, which you did earlier. But you undermined your own point by then stating that he had provided no evidence at all. Essentially, Buffs' sources attempted to suggest that a significant number of people believe in the theory (whether the sources adequately do so is another question entirely). You challenged his assertion without providing any sources of your own to refute it. When Buffs pointed this out repeatedly, you doubled down, ignoring his point and focusing on the fact that he (apparently) believes that the general public's opinion can be summed up by what Americans believe.
I don't actually know if what you're suggesting that Buffs believes is what Buffs actually believes. But I do know that Buffs never explicitly stated that that was what he believes. As such, your comments were referring to a point that may not have even existed. And you stifled actual meaningful discussion by making this the focus of your next 10+ replies. Perhaps Buffs could've provided more sources, or you could've provided some sources. But you steered the discussion in the wrong direction IMO—only focusing on an issue that was, at best, loosely related to the topic at hand because "it's what [you] care about". At best, that's a timesink, and at worst, that's just disruptive editing. At least to me, it's obvious that Buffs believes that the sources that he provided were more than enough to justify his claim that the theory is, at the very least, significant enough to potentially deserve mention—and he was waiting on someone else to refute it, which you never did, instead engaging in personal attacks and saying some just generally unacceptable things. It's also very interesting that Buffs provided two sources from two different countries, but you only refer to one of them (the US source).
I am not a fan of redacting as opposed to striking through, and I didn't actually read what you said until I saw that it had been redacted. But a direct "FUCK YOU" in all caps is the most blatantly uncivil attack I have ever seen from an experienced editor, and, due to its direct focus on one person (as opposed to a topic or a group of editors) your edit may be the clearest violation of NPA I have ever seen. Your behavior was out of line and IMO deserves a sanction of some sort, if only for those two words. And your recent comparison of your behavior to you finding Buffs' statement "extremely offensive" is insulting at best. There is never an excuse to personally attack another user, period. "Needlessly provocative" doesn't even begin to describe what you said. Provocative is snark and sarcasm and taunting. "FUCK YOU" is far, far worse.
As it stands, you probably aren't going to be sanctioned, which is weird to me as I'm relatively sure that if I were to say the exact same things as you did I would be at least indefinitely i-banned. Buffs deserves an apology, at the very least. There is, simply put, no justification for what you said.
Good night (or, since I assume you're in Europe, good very early morning [just looked at your userpage and realized you're in New Zealand, so good afternoon?]). Cessaune [talk] 01:08, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Starship.paint and Cessaune: Just wanted to note that I probably won't be able to deal with this further for at least 2 days or more and especially consider what Cessaune has written (which I haven't read yet to avoid distracting myself). I won't be editing Wikipedia any further until I can deal with this. This is not WP:ANFLU, and if I'm blocked in the meantime, I'm fine with that. I did want to emphasise two points.
One my main issue had nothing to do with a stupid argument. My issue was with what I considered an offensive argument. To suggest that what people in the US believe somehow represents the world's population consensus (and I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume world if an editor does not specify), is something I find extremely offensive.
And I'd say the same to people who make it for any country, be it the US, Malaysian, New Zealand, China, India. It's extremely dismissive of other people's opinions which can offeroften differ remarkably. Obviously what people think in the US matters, but so does what people think Iceland, Samoa, Vanuatu, Madagascar, Jamaica etc. And I stand by the view of how utterly offensive it is. To be clear, this means I find it, way, way, way more offensive than if an editor were to tell me "FUCK YOU AND YOUR FUCKING KIWI/MALAYSIAN/GLOBALIST POV". While it may not be a personal attack per se, it's dismissing the relevance of nearly 8 billion people.
I want to be clear, I am not offering this an excuse for what I said, but just an explanation. I fully accept that the community feels the personal attack is worse.
Number two is that while I understand why people find the "fucking American POV" etc bit too far, I was genuinely surprised about reactions to the simple "fuck you". While it's not a phrase I think I've ever used here and I cannot recall if I've even used it directly to anyone before anywhere (not saying it hadn't, just that it's not a phrase that is a regular part of my discourse) was I thought something editors seemed to accept in some contexts on Wikipedia.
Indeed I thought we'd already established that "fuck you" was not inherently incivil via RfC. But it seems my memory was faulty, the discussion was mostly about "fuck off". (While researching this, I did find some examples of fuck you being used in edit summaries with limited concern but I don't think I was particularly thinking about that.)
Even so, even if I'd remember that, until I saw the reaction I would not have expected it. I guess this is one of those cases where differing opinions and standards comes into play. Again if we put aside the American bit, I do not consider the phrase "fuck you" to be inherently more offensive then "fuck off".
(And definitely whatever this was Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive995#Incivility+this or the infamous "The easiest way to avoid being called a cunt is not to act like one". Although in both cases I've long considered that these editors mostly escape sanction because of the good work despite their behaviour going too far were it most other editors. Something I don't claim to represent, and in any case as I've noted I'm opposed to such special treatment.)
I do consider such phrases significantly more offensive than GTFO (hence why even after seeing this reaction, I'm still fine with Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#False accusations of meatpuppetry and violation of WP:ASPERSIONS), let alone WTF. But I'm fairly sure some would treat GTFO similar to at least fuck off which as said, I personally find not really any worse than fuck you depending on context. (Not sure about WTF, I'm having more trouble imaging people will treat it the same since it's so common on the internet, but there might be some communities where that's untrue.)
Again I want to be clear I do not intend any of this as an excuse, just an explanation. Obviously having seen the reaction to just the simple "fuck you", I'm unlikely to be using it on Wikipedia again whatever my memory of historic use and discussions.
Nil Einne (talk) 08:12, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
08:17, 30 May 2024 (UTC)and I think it's perfectly reasonable to assume world if an editor does not specify—ah. I finally understand. No, it is never "perfectly reasonable to assume" anything. Period, end of sentence, that's it. Especially when the consequences of your assumption lead to personal attacks.
Thank you for your answer, but I don't fully understand it. The same thing happens again when I make changes via Safari. 149.140.128.18 (talk) 13:44, 24 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]