Hi,
Nice to see you are tidying up the categories. I was tempted to make the same change myself a couple of days ago. However for our man Vincent, there is a problem because he is already in Category:Vincent van Gogh which is a subcategory of Category:Dutch painters. As such he should probably not be duplicated in either Category:Dutch paintersorCategory:Painters, but that doesn't quite look right. I don't have an answer, categories can be tricky, but I thought I would mention it. -- Solipsist 21:24, 31 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I don't think there's an absolute rule to follow. It should be sorted under what English considers to be the last name, based on actual usage.
In this case, physics refers to "Van der Waals force", which is a strong indication that in English, the last name is considered to be "Van der Waals". In this case, the entire last name is sorted "as is".
In the case of "Antony van Leeuwenhoek", people talk about Leeuwenhoek microscopes or Leeuwenhoek's disease. But for Van der Waals, he is never referred to (in English) as just "Waals".
To take an analogy with German, there are many surnames with "von" but in many cases these are omitted when naming something after the person. For instance, "Joseph von Fraunhofer", but "Fraunhofer refractor" or "Fraunhofer diffraction". Thus, this is sorted undef "F". On the other hand, "John Von Neumann" is always "Von Neumann" and never just "Neumann", and therefore sorted under "V" ("Von Neumann architecture", not "Neumann architecture").
Similarly, in French, there are some names with "de" where the "de" is optional and can be dropped, such as "Pierre de Fermat" (sorted under "F"), and others where it cannot, such as "Charles de Gaulle" (sorted under "D").
It's on a case by case basis, based on actual usage, especially things named after the person ("Fermat's theorem" vs. "De Gaulle airport").
To take a completely different example, in Arabic "al Qaeda" and "al Jazeera" would undoubtedly be sorted under Q and J, but an English-speaking person would look for them under "A".
It's not reasonable to expect a user of an encyclopedia to be aware of the rules of each foreign language and sort names the way that that language would do so. It has to be based on actual usage in English, for an English-language encyclopedia, however illogical or inconsistent it might be.
-- Curps 16:46, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Good call on the categories for Winston Churchill. Don't be surprised if User:Pigsonthewing reverts your edit though. I've been having the same problem on Bill Oddie, as you can see on the talk pages. You might like to add to the discussion there. -- ~~
I was curious why you chose to put Charles Daudelin and Marcelle Ferron into the category Canadian painters. Daudelin was far more famous for his sculpture than his painting, and Ferron for her stained glass. - Montréalais 05:35, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I am glad to see you have been able to categorise Joseph Wilson Lowry. I have been trying to do the same for his father, Wilson Lowry, but cannot get the coding to work. Can you have a go, please and I will see how you did it!! Many thanks Apwoolrich 13:30, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Hi Pethan, Nice job on adding images. But take care, I'm not sure that Image:Memling Shrine.jpg passes the photograph which just reproduces a painting test. So the copyright on the photograph could stand.
Some of the other images also contain the frame which would be risk.
I can't find Wikipedias policy on this point, but there is some better phrased information here [1] -- Solipsist 19:32, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Discussion moved to User talk:Solipsist -- Solipsist 10:44, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Hi, Pethan: i noticed that you hooked Rene PaulChambellan up with a United States Sculptors link. or something like that. if you are interested in doing more, my user page has a list of others, mostly sculptors, that I've written up. I don't think of these people as "Americans" as such, but if this is a way of catigorizing that makes sense to you, go for it. Carptrash 16:23, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Hi Carptrash: principally what I have done is categorising Sculptors in the same way as Painters and Architects, because it was a very long list (more than 130). Categorising by nation seems a logical step. What I would like to do most is find images, because with the arts a picture does say more than 1,000 words. The copyright problem stands in the way, I am afraid. I will surely take a look at your list Pethan 17:07, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Hi Pethan, actually there was no need to tell me about those templates: I have the majority of the Dutch municipalities on my watch list, and your edits were really conspicuous. Good work!
About my project idea: it's not an official proposal as yet, so there's no reason you should have known about it, or followed the format. I'll probably move it out of my private userspace in a couple of days. Before I started that page, I looked around on the Dutch wikipedia, but couldn't find anything; now I've found nl:Wikipedia:Gemeente sjabloon, which looks good, and I'll certainly use some ideas from that page. If you have some ideas yourself about this project, don't hesitate to let me know; either on my talk page or on the project proposal at User:Eugene van der Pijll/WikiProject Dutch municipalities. Eugene van der Pijll 20:24, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Pethan, I've made a few changes to Breda which should clear up a few things. Henry V refers to Henry V, Holy Roman Emperor. Apart from being H.R.E., he also was the lord of Breda. Eugene van der Pijll 21:11, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I liked Houten, and I changed Terneuzen in the same way. I've added 1 thing to the infobox: land surface area. That is useful in cases like Medemblik. Also population density is now calculated on basis of land area. If we're both happy with this format, it might be time for me to rewrite the project page and to make it "official". Eugene van der Pijll 18:11, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
In response to your comment
I think the best option would be to move the articles in Cities of the NetherlandstoDutch cities, since Dutch cities contains more articles than Cities of the Netherlands, which would make moving the articles easier. Cities of the Netherlands could then be deleted. I think Dutch topography is different from Dutch geography, and therefore deserving of a category of its own. Aecis 17:21, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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You said:
My answer is short but simple: yes, I can agree with it :) Aecis 19:11, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Hi Pethan,
I just noticed that you have removed you to-do lists on Category:Engravers and Category:Painters — does this mean that you have got many of the arts categories sorted out? -- Solipsist 20:14, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Hi Pethan, I just wanted to tell you the Wikiproject has gone official. Eugene van der Pijll 23:31, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Alfred van Cock: can you verify? Mikkalai 17:28, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I have just added two more to the above page Scamozzi and Longhena, however they have gone in alphabetically under their christian names, do you know how to fix it? - Sorry Giano 15:47, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
[edit]I just saw that you had blanked this a couple months ago, without comment, and without replacing it with any structure to group together the main Vincent van Gogh article, the articles on his paintings, and his eponymous museum in Amsterdam. I can't say that the category was absolutely the best solution, but I still can't think of anything better. What was your reasoning? Postdlf 03:44, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
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