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I am not sure if I am doing this right. I've been using Wikipedia extensively for many years, but have never created an article. This is my first article. I am trying my best to follow the guidelines. I am a fan of the company Throwboy and know that they have an interesting story and have been following them for years. They've been around for a decade. I found some press and decided to go from there. I am not sure why this was marked as advertising. I don't work for the company. I just own their products and am a huge Wikipedia fan and saw that they were missing an article, even though they are mentioned in many other articles across Wikipedia. I was not entirely finished with the article when I published it. I didn't realize that "saving" meant publishing. I only wanted to save a draft and publish it when I felt the article was more complete seeing as there is more information. I used the articled on Johnny Cupcakes to model my article after (using similar wording). I don't think that my article that I was writing for Throwboy differs too much from this other article aside from my article not being complete yet, but the wording is almost the same. Is there a way to save a draft instead of publishing? Maybe that is the issue?
Hello Sandrasworld. I can move Throwboy to your user space if you agree to me moving it for you. That would give you time to work on it until you feel that it's ready to be moved into article mainspace. I would normally suggest that you only use good or featured articles as examples. Unfortunately, as far as I can tell, there are no good or featured articles about clothing brands. Mduvekot (talk) 03:50, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
Mduvekot I am not sure where to access that, but I will look into it. Yes, please move it there. I will figure it out and I will further work on the article. The Johnny Cupcakes article seemed good because it has not been deleted nor does it have a notice of deletion on it and is a company that is in the same level of notability as Throwboy even though they both sell different things seeing as Throwboy mainly sells pillows. Is there anything else you think I can do differently so that this does not happen when the article is more complete? Was there anything specifically that came off as a red flag as advertising? Was it my wording? Or was it because it was too short? Thanks!
Hi you tagged Leadiro for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia. I've contested the deletion to give me time to correct the article. Can you advise if the page failed one or more of the test below?
Hello Shreyas.naik I nominated the article for deletion because the article did not make a credible claim of significance. The link explains what that entails, but in the case of Leadiro, there was a credible claim (I don't doubt that the company exists), but nothing to indicate that anything about Leadiro would make it notable. When I checked to see if any news sources existed on google, the results were: Your search - Leadiro - did not match any news results. Other searches equally turned up empty. An article needs to be based on independent, reliable sources. I confirmed that no such sources exist. I knew that, given the lack of sources, the article would never survive a deletion discussion. To nominate the article for deletion through a deletion discussion at Articles for deletion would be wasting everybody's time discussing it, so I decided to nominate it for speedy deletion instead.
I am curious though; what made you want to write about a company that makes a lead generation software for marketing professionals as your first and only contribution to Wikipedia? Why did you think this was a suitable subject for an encyclopedia? Mduvekot (talk) 21:25, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
Leadiro was mentioned in the competitors section of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZoomInfo but there wasn't a corresponding page. Since the marketing technology space is a rapidly growing area where incumbents are being disrupted by digital technologies such as AI/Machine Learning and Data Science techniques and also since Leadiro is in the same "neighborhood" as the other companies listed in competitors it seemed a appropriate and reasonable update. Shreyas.naik (talk) 21:44, 6 May 2017 (UTC)shreyas.naik
Shreyas.naik, I suppose you didn't notice that the mention of Leadiro was an insertion by an IP user here who only ever made two edits. It happens all the time; we'd like to make sure that those are not attempts to get free advertising on Wikipedia or edits in violation of our terms of use; paid editing requires disclosure. Mduvekot (talk) 22:16, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
No sorry I didn't know the "insertion by an IP user". My page wasn't an attempt to violate any terms. Let me read the disclosure page and respond (it's late here now). How long do I have to respond? Regards Shreyas.naik (talk) 22:39, 6 May 2017 (UTC)shreyas.naik
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I received a message that a company page I was trying to publish was deleted for Scan One. This is an AP automation company located in Portland, OR. They have been in business for over 3o years. I understand that you do not allow 'marketing/sales' content, but what is the best process for creating a page for a company? So we can post company facts and general information. Thank you in advance for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicole kreider (talk • contribs) 17:00, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
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Hi, just wanted to say thanks for tagging Tamara Bower; I put a note in the talk page for anyone else who might have the time for it—given my connection I don't think there's any good way for me to correct the page to be more neutral and just wanted to check with someone more experienced that leaving a note like that on the talk page was an appropriate way of handling the issue. Thanks again! Mehmuffin (talk) 14:13, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
Because you're going against consensus. The number articles are developed in groups of 10s or 100s until there is sufficient material to sustain an individual article. Provide the material and 431 can have its own article. Mduvekot (talk) 22:05, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
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The article Ramdas Ransing would actually need Deletion as, someone who works with education articles here, I can say he's not notable. However, I'm messaging to let you know that regardless, our academics notability guidelines never judge the subject by their own cited publications or how they're primary since this itself would show they're significant in their field, as stated by WP:PROF. Actually, any publications stated in any academic article wouldn't be considered primary sources at all since the publication would likely be professionally published by an independent entity. Independent sources reporting about subjects only the primary authors would ever know would not be considered as reliable and WP:PROF is clear about this, such as scientific papers or research. SwisterTwistertalk23:39, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
I think what I meant to say in my feedback to the author of the article was that you cannot use a paper by the subject of an article to establish that a subject is known for his contributions to a field. You need secondary sources, or per criterion 2 of WP:PROF, demonstrate that the subject is an author of highly cited academic work. If you think it should go to AfD, why not take it there? Mduvekot (talk) 00:02, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
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It is the bio of one of the best all round climbers of the world and certainly the best in Britain. Such a person definitely warrants a wiki page! Dunno how the page seemed promotion when source of all the info was given. Request this page to be restored. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashishchanda (talk • contribs) 13:05, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
Hello Ashishchanda. The problem was with the way it was written, promotional. Haston is very likely a notable subject, and substantial coverage from independent, reliable sources may exist. Requests to have an article restored must be made to the deleting administrator Ad Orientem, not the editor who nominated the article (me). Please see WP:REFUND. All the best, Mduvekot (talk) 13:34, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
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Hi - I just got a speedy deletion notice from you for NJFX, and before I could even contest it it was deleted. Can you explain why you thought it was promotional? In over six years, I've never had an article deleted before, let alone speedy deleted. Wikipedia is weak on info about data centers and cable landing stations. I've been focusing a bit more in this area recently, including updating info on Windstream, Tata Communications and Hibernia Networks. Thanks. Timtempleton (talk) 14:36, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
Hi - I wanted to let you know that I reread the NJFX article with a fresh perspective and took out a few sentences that could be considered borderline promotional. I just resubmitted and it sits here Draft:New Jersey Fiber Exchange (the restoring editor changed the title). Please let me know if you still think it's too promotional, and if so, what specific info you think I should delete. I appreciate that you patrolled the article. It was this specific article being held up in NPP that led me to this project and the submission I made Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Analysis and proposal#A modest proposal to clear the patrol backlog. What do you think of better triage? Timtempleton (talk) 15:34, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
Hello TimtempletonIsee you've received your WP:REFUND and that the article is now at AfC, a good way make sure the article represents a neutral point of view. Why did I think it was promotional? The quality of your sources, mostly. The article is patched together from minor rewrites in industry publications, not sourced to substantial coverage from independent, reliable sources. The abundance of the phrase "NJFX announced" in the sources, and even the article, is a bit of a giveaway. Of course, NJFX writes press releases all the time, and some of that gets reported on. But what doesn't happen is follow-up on those announcements; in-depth coverage. So while you manage to put together something that is entirely "factual", in that everything is referenced to a source, the purpose of the article as I read it was not to inform its readership, but to promote a business, because promotion of the business is at the root of all of its sources. You may find reading WP:CORPDEPTH helpful. All the best, Mduvekot (talk) 11:17, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
Thanks Mduvekot for the clarification. Wikipedia is weak on telecommunications infrastructure articles. There's just not a lot of editor interest in subsea cables, cable landing stations and data centers. Even the telco templates are ignored - I noticed two weeks ago that there was no template documentation for the Template:Infobox network service provider template, which I tried to fix - and half succeeded. My call for template formatting help on the talk page has been ignored. So most of the news in this area is going to be in trade publications. I've done a lot of telecommunications articles and have a telco background, so the trade pub names are more familiar to me. I agree that a lot of articles are seeded by PR - that's how things work in this day and age of media staff cutbacks - but I try to avoid using anything but reliable third party sources when writing an article. One rule of thumb is that if I can't write an article about a company without referring to its web site, it's not notable enough. With NJFX, I found everything I needed in 3rd party trade pubs. There's a lot more coverage, but I didn't want to overlink - I thought that would look promotional. But since the draft is being reviewed, I'll Google them again and see if I can find sources that might be better known outside of the industry. I realize that this is no longer on your plate, but wanted to reach out and share my thoughts. On an unrelated note, I see on your talk page that you have an interest in art. My first article (before I knew what COI was and recused myself) was for my father Robert Templeton, a portrait artist who painted the portrait of President Carter that sits in the National Portrait Gallery, several TIME magazine covers, and numerous leaders from the world of politics, business and entertainment. Cheers. Timtempleton (talk) 02:05, 14 June 2017 (UTC)