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The result of the discussion was:merge. – FayenaticLondon 22:20, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Categories have the same 7 articles. "Israeli" is the older category and better fits the category tree, but "Jewish" is perhaps a better description of the dishes as they all predate the state of Israel. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 20:02, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Just to comment that Israeli ≠ Jewish. No other comment on the merit of a merge. Gonnym (talk) 20:38, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support, according to the articles they are all Jewish dishes, and some are American-Jewish rather than Israeli-Jewish. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:56, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Nobody yet seems to have perceived that Category:Jewish noodle dishes up to now not even has any parent category. Obviously it can't be a valid target for merging. --Just N. (talk) 23:37, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Reverse merging seems the logical way, and eventually deletion of Category:Jewish noodle dishes in order to have a consistent category without doublette. Or else find for it a place in a category tree that is easily comprehensible. --Just N. (talk) 23:45, 17 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
A lack of parent categories is not a reason for deletion in itself, since that can be fixed easily. The category has now two valid parents. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:43, 18 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Maybe - Ashkenazi sounds very specific though, is that really needed? Marcocapelle (talk) 16:28, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was:no consensus. – FayenaticLondon 22:18, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: The category description says "This category is for articles about the academic discipline of euthenics, not for the things that may improve well-being (e.g. sanitation).", but the subcategories include a lot of things such as "sanitation". I think they should be split into some other category, or simply removed. User:力 (powera, π, ν) 20:43, 10 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, apart from the main article this is all a matter of WP:OR categorization. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:51, 11 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment -- The category is not big enough to need splitting. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:18, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedia categorization intersect test 2[edit]
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Comment Wikipedian Obiwankenobi, who created and worked on this, has retired long ago. However, this category page is used in a javascript tool by Magnus Manske (compare this old user page entry, removed in 2014). Before deleting the category, could someone check if that script is still needed? Also, if the script is still in use then this edit by Pppery should maybe be reverted. Renerpho (talk) 01:29, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, if this category is kept, then those edits should be reverted. I've been yelled at several times for not emptying categories I tag for speedy deletion, even though I think that should be the deleting admin's responsibility because if the tagger does it messes like this result. However, that script depends on the markup in the category description, rather than the category, so that would merit at most a move to somewhere like User:Obiwankenobi/intercat demo. However, anyone who uses the script in question will see the tag for this CfD; hence a lack of further comments when this CfD is finally closed will indicate that no one cares, a la turning it off and seeing who screams. * Pppery *it has begun... 01:53, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You have my sympathy regarding the shouting. I don't like the resulting mess either. Let's see if someone complains... Renerpho (talk) 20:01, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment It was I that declined the CSD tagging even though I'm aware that Obiwankenobi has, sadly, been gone for quite a while. I was just unprepared, as someone who is not involved with testing templates or scripts or other tools, to say that this page no longer had a use. I had hoped that, as the subject of a CFD discussion, anyone who was interested in it might come forward and either say that it was still of some value or say it can safely be deleted. Thank you, Pppery, for bringing it here. LizRead!Talk! 01:25, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was:rename. ✗plicit 02:28, 9 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: In a CFD in March 2021, "incertae sedis" in category names at and below this level was replaced with "Enigmatic taxa". Then last month this CFD moved "Enigmatic" to the beginning of the category name, separated from taxa/genera. – FayenaticLondon 13:13, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support for consistency with previous discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:33, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nomination. JehochmanTalk 14:19, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was:merge. If any of the members belong within the other parent Category:Biological processes, then they should be added there. – FayenaticLondon 22:16, 20 February 2022 (UTC) – FayenaticLondon 22:16, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: No clear scope - it's currently got components of memory models, cognitive and biological processes which occur during creation, during use and during forgetting of memory, brain structures, and then some assorted things. And they are all feasible for the name "Memory processes". The upmerge will make Category:Memory too large, but this isn't a helpful subcat. Xurizuri (talk) 10:47, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Maybe we can create three subcategories for semantic, episodic and implicit memory, but I have not checked if enough articles would fit each of these three topics, and besides this would merely be a next step after merging. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:48, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and then regroup according to whatever hierarchical information is reliably sourced in Memory. Perhaps File:Memory.gif can be used as a guide. JehochmanTalk 14:20, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was:keep. – FayenaticLondon 22:14, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale:rename, this is a topic category, not a set category, and we normally use singular in the name of this kinds of categories. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:43, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
SupportFinite field is the common name and is the title of the associated article. --{{u|Mark viking}} {Talk} 09:30, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Most other mathematics categories, even topic categories, use either a plural name or "X theory" when there is more than one. There is a unique finite field (up to isomorphism) for every order that is a prime power. –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 19:17, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
(as nom) "finite field theory" is fine with me too. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:13, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support or Category:Finite field theory, to clearly indicate a topic as opposed to a set category. Felix QW (talk) 22:00, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. We routinely have categories in plural forms of nouns: Category:People rather than Category:Person, Category:Cities rather than Category:City, etc. Even for topic categories, singular makes sense only when the topic itself is singular: there is one person Alan Turing, so we have a topic category Category:Alan Turing, not Category:Alans Turing (and let's just skip quickly over the fact that Category:Los Angeles is, grammatically, plural). But when a topic category is about a topic consisting of multiple things, we still routinely use plural: Category:Cats not Category:Cat. This is, like cats, a topic category concerning multiple finite fields, not just a single finite field, so its category name should be plural. —David Eppstein (talk) 08:49, 6 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose both "Finite field" and "Finite field theory" - the latter isn't even a redirect. This differs from examples given in WP:CAT for topic categories in that you could say "This is about law" or "This is about France" or "This is about Hillary Clinton" or "This is about opera", but not "This is about finite field", as "finite field" is a solely a countable noun. There is also precedent from other topic categories that are topics about countable nouns: see e.g. Category:Fibonacci numbers, Category:Ions, Category:Rivers, Category:Sports, etc etc. This old discussion from my talk page may also be of interest. (n.b. I came here from WT:WPM.) eviolite(talk) 00:28, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral as for "Finite fields" vs "Finite field theory". - Jochen Burghardt (talk) 11:55, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose But not very strongly, more of a preference. If you look at the examples Law, France, and Hilary Clinton they are nothing like Finite field. Theres laws with no capital, but not Frances or Hilary Clintons. Anyway have a look at the references in the Finite field article for what's more common in referece books on the topic. I'm fine with the main article being called 'finite field' though, especially as it is easier to add an s in references than subtract it! NadVolum (talk) 13:49, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per nom. Reasonable basic assumption. --Just N. (talk) 23:00, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's rationale: Rename per standard user category naming conventions. * Pppery *it has begun... 04:48, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support, to clarify that it is a user category. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:27, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Sailor Moon task force participants[edit]
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Nominator's rationale: Duplicate categories for the same WikiProject subdivision. * Pppery *it has begun... 04:48, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nom. --Just N. (talk) 23:06, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's rationale: Not helpful to categorize Wikipedians by having subscribed to a newsletter. * Pppery *it has begun... 04:48, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 23:07, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was:rename. – FayenaticLondon 22:11, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Rename per standard user category naming conventions. * Pppery *it has begun... 04:48, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support, to clarify that it is a user category. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:43, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Category:Wikipedia bots running on the Wikimedia Toolserver[edit]
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The result of the discussion was:delete. I will replace it with {{ToolserverBot}} where that is not present already. – FayenaticLondon 22:01, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
'Delete per nom. An anachronism indeed. --Just N. (talk) 23:09, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per nom. --Just N. (talk) 23:11, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's rationale: Split user pages from subcategories containing articles per standard user category conventions. * Pppery *it has begun... 04:48, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Nominator's rationale: Same team under different names. For sports teams that change names, we have one category for the team, not one for each historical team name. But following processes isn't a strong point of the LPL editors... Joseph2302 (talk) 01:52, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge Per nom, standard for sports teams that change names but remain the same entity so we don't have multiple categories. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 10:59, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per long precedent. The same applies to alumni categories for renamed or merged schools, etc. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:07, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Merge per nominator. Fade258 (talk) 16:31, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was:rename. – FayenaticLondon 21:57, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Prionapterygini is a junior synonym of Ancylolomiini. Please search at this website to confirm. YorkshireExpat (talk) 09:09, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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@Marcocapelle: it says that Ancylolomiinae, not Ancylolomiini, is a synonyms of Crambinae. In zoology, names ending in 'ini' are tribes; those ending 'nae' are subfamilies. YorkshireExpat (talk) 08:34, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I see! This is a topic I know nothing about, which is now clearly confirmed. Marcocapelle (talk) 12:01, 9 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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The result of the discussion was:rename. A new category page has been created, but the old one will be moved over it. – FayenaticLondon 21:43, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator's rationale: Prionapterygini is a junior synonym of Ancylolomiini. Please search at this website to confirm. YorkshireExpat (talk) 09:09, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This category has been emptied. LizRead!Talk! 01:32, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Liz: I promise to refill it when it changes name. I think this was my fault as I moved the template so it will refill when the category is moved. YorkshireExpat (talk) 18:27, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Well, empty categories aren't tagged CSD C1 as long as there is an active CFD discussion going on. I just note when this happens because sometimes editors prematurely empty a category before a CFD discussion is closed. I think it's a different situation when a category is populated or depopulated by a template that is changed. LizRead!Talk! 01:45, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Liz: Yes, it's an easy fix. Just undo the move on the template to put everything back. YorkshireExpat (talk) 09:37, 27 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Please clarify? If they are synonymous, why is "Prionapterygini" less appropriate than "Ancylolomiini"? Her Pegship (?) 05:06, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Pegship: Apologies, I have edited the rationale. Prionapterygini is the junior synonym in the sense of a taxonomic synonym (second paragraph of the article should clarify). Articles should not have the name of a junior synonym. Not sure this is part of any guideline, but it is well established. Take a look at the discussion here. YorkshireExpat (talk) 18:27, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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This category has been on the Empty Categories list for months now. Will this discussion ever be closed? LizRead!Talk! 04:45, 20 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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Relisted, see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2022 January 9#Category:Metroidvania games
