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There are some inherent point of view problems with assigning prestige rankings to film festivals as "major" or "A-list". By their very nature, film festivals, from Cannes to a regional, four-day festival in some small town somewhere, are prestigious. Even festivals that claim they aren't prestigious (Sundance for example) are prestigious for saying they aren't prestigious.

But prestige is difficult to quantify, even with third-party sources. On Wikipedia, there is probably no way to note a film festival's prestigiousness, other than to say they are all prestigious.

The problem of assigning rankings of prestige exists in at least three works that fall under the purview of this task force:

• Film festival - Has a listing of the so-called "A-list" festivals, a classification that is highly suspect. The issue is being discussed at Talk:Film festival#A -list festivals.
• List of film festivals - I've done a lot of work on restructuring this list and the related other Lists of film festivals over the past year. With the List of film festivals, I have endeavored to summarize the world's "major" film festivals, despite my qualms about saying something is "major". I think I've done an okay job for casual readers, but it occasionally needs pruning because it serves as a POV magnet, and frankly, I'm not sure if my own POV hasn't crept in somewhere. The purpose and scope of this list needs to be more clearly defined, and I need help doing that.
• {{Film festivals}} - A puny navigation template that more or less duplicates the so-called "A-list" of the Film festival article. At one time, there was even an A-list film festival category, which was deleted. This is documented at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2007 July 5#Category:"A" Film Festivals. On Template talk:Film festivals, I proposed that the template be deleted as well. My comment received no replies, and I've held off on a TfD nomination, because I wonder if somehow the template might be useful. The problem is, if the template is really fair, it would include all film festivals, which would make it too cumbersome to be useful. — WiseKwai 12:57, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've replied at Talk:Film festival regarding some of the A-list concerns. I largely echo your sentiments - there's a huge risk of POV, but probably some utility to identifying the incontrovertably important fests. The question is how to determine this through objective criteria. Girolamo Savonarola 13:00, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've authored and nominated Reel Affirmations for Good Article status. But with their huge backlog, I'm worried no one will review this article any time soon. So, if you feel up to it, I'd appreciate a review. Tips on reviewing good article candidates and how to pass or fail current candidates are available. The article is listed on the Good article nominations page under "Social sciences and society|Media|Miscellaneous Media." Thanks! - Tim1965 (talk) 15:20, 18 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think we are in desperate need of a more detailed style guideline for film festival articles. We need to set up a list of criteria and preferably upgrade the articles on festivals featured in the Core list projects, so that they could serve as models for any future articles covered by this taskforce. Anyone willing to add his 2 cents? Timbouctou (talk) 11:54, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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While mindlessly patrolling new pages I suddenly saw a veritable flood of MMFF articles; regrettably none of the new ones were of particularly high quality. It struck me that a major missing item was a navigation template, so I created {{MMFF}}, and I've spent a while p-layiog with it today to "get it right".

IT seems to me to be a good time to pass the baton to a film festival buff, so I've tagged it with {{film}} on its talk page and thought it might do no harm to mention it here.

The reason for the mention is because many of the MMFF articles are in need of love and attention. Some factual verification would not go amiss either. I've no idea where to start. I was just passing through. I'm not a film person I'm afraid. So I'm hoping you guys can adopt the rather sketchy articles A N Other has created.

Come to that, do please, improve the template! Fiddle Faddle (talk) 17:25, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Dear Film Festival taskforce, I'm new to Wikipedia so I have a question. I work at a film festival, and I would like to work on its article (which is very much in need of work!). I totally understand the policies about not advertising or promoting etc.; but even so, I'm not sure if it's appropriate for me to work on this article at all, even if I stick to factual matters? Can you let me know what you think? Thanks!--Maduro five (talk) 22:17, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi everyone at WikiProject Film festivals!

Women's history month is around the corner, in March, and we're planning the second WikiWomen's History Month.

This event, which is organized by volunteers from the WikiWomen's Collaborative, supports improving coverage about women's history during the month of March. Events take place both offline and online. We are encouraging WikiProjects to focus on women's history related to their subject for the month of March. Ideas include:

• Improving coverage about film festivals that celebrate women in the film industry
• Developing content about women involved in film festivals

We hope you'll participate! You can list your your project focus here, and also help improve our to-do list. Thank you for all you do for Wikipedia! SarahStierch (talk) 21:46, 19 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

While peforming new page patrol, I came across an article about Varadraj Swami, which let me to articles about his films (The Endless, Recession, Akhbar Ka Ek Panna, and Shades). All of these films listed as accolades selections at various film festivals, including the New York Short Film Festival, the Los Angeles Short Film Festival, etc. My curiosity was piqued when all of these festivals used the same web address (http://www.mamut.net), which is essentially a cheap webhosting provider in Norway. More research led me to this article, which pretty clearly spells out that these festivals and all of their siblings are basically pay for awards schemes (the film industry equivalent of a diploma mill). Variety even published an article about the parent organization ("Annual Program Without Frontiers") regarding an Interpol investigation of the organization for computer crime.

The question is, do we care to root out references to such scams in film articles? WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 15:14, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This is a notice about Category:Films/Film festivals task force articles needing expert attention, which might be of interest to your WikiProject. It will take a while before the category is populated. Iceblock (talk) 16:42, 28 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

FYI - The link to Film Festival World under resources is no longer active. I've added a note about the 404 error. Hopefully someone here knows whether the page has moved or if it is completely defunct. Thanks! --Tbennert (talk) 18:03, 30 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I am doing a wiki project and very much need help. This is great one to work on. Where would I be able to get more information? --Rmoncada (talk) 07:35, 18 November 2020 (UTC)RossyMoncada[reply]

"Beyond the official site, and an IMDb link, if it exists, what else is really needed?" Social media? Youtube or Vimeo page? FilmFreeway or Withoutabox page? Is anything really"needed"? Kire1975 (talk) 02:48, 5 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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