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byTargon ( 17348 ) writes:
When it comes to financial matters, I don't think that the president is empowered to make this sort of decision. This stuff MUST be voted on by Congress and possibly the Senate. Trump has the deluded idea that being president has the powers of an emperor, and it is only because the Republican Party has politicians who are a bunch of pussies who run away from Trump calling them a bad name and are so obsessed with power that have made them "fall in line". Anyone who actually believes in following the US
byViol8 ( 599362 ) writes:
Even a broken clock is correct twice a day. On this Trump is right - whats the point of distributing pennies when cash usage is going down and it costs a huge amount manufacturing and distributing them?
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bygtall ( 79522 ) writes:
Because he'll find a way to make the cents fall into his pocket in bits and bobs. All he need do is get his Scam Artists in Residence to figure out how. Maybe Elmo should have el Bunko put him (Elmo) on the case, he's good at that sort of thing. Hint for Elmo: its the left string you need to pull for this, not the right...best move the accordion hands in and out while you do it, makes it look official.
byflyingfsck ( 986395 ) writes:
You need psychiatric help for your TDS.
byTargon ( 17348 ) writes:
It comes down to this stuff the president is NOT the God Emperor of the USA, no matter how much his supporters believe he is. The president can put it to Congress for something to try to enact, but the president can't just declare this and that, we have three branches of government, not just one.
byTablizer ( 95088 ) writes:
I believe the point was Don can't unilaterally make that decision. Whether it's a good idea is a different issue.
I'm personally for it. I don't see a need for pennies.
byradarskiy ( 2874255 ) writes:
"Even a broken clock is correct twice a day."
That a broken clock is correct twice a day does not make it a useful timepiece. You still have the verify, so you might as well ignore it and go directly to what you would verify it against.
byAnonymous Coward writes:
It sounds like this will be a great point for Trump to bring up, the next time he writes his congressperson. Or even when he addresses Congress and asks them all (not just his own reps) to consider some new legislation.
I think a lot of far-left Republicans (i.e. MAGA) get confused about the difference between two things:
(一)Good ideas
(二)Whose responsibility, according to the Constitution, it is to implement a good idea
Conservative Republicans (now called RINOs since conservatives are unwelcome in the party) unders
bycaseih ( 160668 ) writes:
But the OP wasn't commenting on whether the idea itself was good or not. He argues that Trump simply has no authority to command such a thing. And this is true of most of his executive orders, including the most destructive and disruptive ones. Which is interesting because Congress is completely in his control and at his beck and call. He could do it all legally have congress exercise their power, and still take credit for it, but he does not. This is a deliberate move to weaken congress and to take powe
byewibble ( 1655195 ) writes:
In the US I believe 1 cent coins are referred also refereed to as pennies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
bycaseih ( 160668 ) writes:
Colloquially yes, you are right. And I'm sure the order did use the official name.
byJayhawk0123 ( 8440955 ) writes:
I believe the issue isn't so much if Trump is right, or if we agree with his decisions... the issue is that it's not the right way to go about it...
he's ruling the country by decree, and over reaching. He has undone 100+ years of how power of the office is wielded and congress has shown no concern with the presidential over reach.
What i do find hilarious about this is that the $85 Million dollar amount elicits such a dramatic reaction from people... we lost more money in an f-35 plane crash last week and it barely made the papers... but people are losing their heads over the cost of the penny.
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byewibble ( 1655195 ) writes:
Printing pennies is demonstrably a waste money when it cost more to mint than its worth. f-35 planes hold some value to people, I assume most Americans would support maintaining some kind of military. What the pennies thing demonstrates is a government in paralysis, this has been a known issue for years, an obvious way to save some money, yet the US government can't seem get the simplest of things done.
And what DRAMATIC response are you talking about? People discussing things on the internet? Has there been
byMagius_AR ( 198796 ) writes:
I believe the issue isn't so much if Trump is right, or if we agree with his decisions... the issue is that it's not the right way to go about it...
he's ruling the country by decree, and over reaching. He has undone 100+ years of how power of the office is wielded and congress has shown no concern with the presidential over reach.
May I ask where your concern of 100+ years of how power of the office is wielded was when Biden was costing taxpayers a trillion dollars in Student Loan forgiveness decrees? Or
byswillden ( 191260 ) writes:
On this Trump is right
He's really not. Oh, ending the use of pennies is a good idea, but Trump's order is illegal. The law is dumb and should be changed, but the president's duty is to faithfully execute the laws passed by Congress, not to override them.
bydryeo ( 100693 ) writes:
If you pass a law, that law can include regulation on rounding, namely to the closest nickel. It's how it was done in Canada.
byTwistedGreen ( 80055 ) writes:
There wasn't any particular rounding method specified in that law in Canada. It just states that businesses have to be fair and transparent in the method they use. There is a guideline, but it's just a guideline--businesses are free to use whatever method they want, as long as they disclose it. See https://www.canada.ca/en/reven... [canada.ca]
A lot of businesses voluntarily "rounded down" at the time, to placate their customers during the transition. But it's not illegal to just round up, as long as you disclose this p
bydryeo ( 100693 ) writes:
My mistake, I do seem to remember it being a regulation, does seem like it was a guideline. Your link isn't loading here, I'll assume you read it.
bytlhIngan ( 30335 ) writes:
Even a broken clock is correct twice a day. On this Trump is right - whats the point of distributing pennies when cash usage is going down and it costs a huge amount manufacturing and distributing them?
Congratulations, you're among the wealthy!
The poor are the ones who are the ones most hurt by this. Because they can't afford bank accounts, and are often the most 'unbanked". Saving pennies in order to purchase stuff is often the only way they can do things.
It's one of the big reasons many places have made c
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