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byJava Pimp ( 98454 ) writes:
We also tend not to put people exhibiting these behaviors in decision-making positions.
Except when we put one of them in charge of our country... Twice....
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byTWX ( 665546 ) writes:
yeah, this part stood out to me:
A LLM will be just as confident when saying something completely wrong -- and obviously so, to a human -- as it will be when saying something true.
as pretty much now empowering both ignorance as if it's equivalent to knowledge and experience, and now asserting that the ignorant person's views are fully valid even when based on bogus, "research."
Assertion while ignorant or actively wrong is the sort of thing that a conman does, because the root of what a conman relies on is confidence, that's where the con- part comes from. AI may as well be a conman.
byewibble ( 1655195 ) writes:
Its also the sort of thing someone with mental illness does as well.
bysaloomy ( 2817221 ) writes:
AI is making mistakes because it is a few years old (3?). You know how shitty CPUs were at 3 years of development? Memory? Digital Camera sensors? You know how bad hard drives were? Or network connections? AI is that now. Wait 10 years, and development will make mistakes unimaginably rare and negligible, like mistakes in memory now. Some form of AI ECC (error correction code for those of us not hardware nerds) will probably come out, balancing checks across the LLMs, questioning the answers in portions prio
bySique ( 173459 ) writes:
AI is about 60 years old right now, starting with ELIZA (1966), then we have MYCIN (1972) and CYC (1984). DeepBlue was beating Garri Kasparov in 1996. Watson was playing Jeopardy in 2011. AlphaGo beat Fan Hui in 2015, Lee Seedol in 2016 and Ke Lie in 2017. If you want to compare AI to Microprocessors, then LLMs are something like the 32bit architecture - quite mature and capable, and already scaling up to 1 GHz and more.
byWaffleMonster ( 969671 ) writes:
AI is about 60 years old right now, starting with ELIZA (1966), then we have MYCIN (1972) and CYC (1984). DeepBlue was beating Garri Kasparov in 1996. Watson was playing Jeopardy in 2011. AlphaGo beat Fan Hui in 2015, Lee Seedol in 2016 and Ke Lie in 2017. If you want to compare AI to Microprocessors, then LLMs are something like the 32bit architecture - quite mature and capable, and already scaling up to 1 GHz and more.
While field of AI generally is ancient the transformer craze just recently started circa 2017.
bySique ( 173459 ) writes:
There is quite a difference between the public reception of things and the State of Art. When I was at the university studying CS in the 1990ies, neural networks were all the rage. In the early 2000s, I was working as sysadmin in the CS department, and one research group was training an LLM, called "Semantic Search" at the time.
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byDeanonymizedCoward ( 7230266 ) writes:
... empowering both ignorance as if it's equivalent to knowledge and experience, and now asserting that the ignorant person's views are fully valid even when based on bogus, "research." ...
Often found in the phrase "Don't take my word, do your own research!," this word no longer connotes tirelessly combing over vast troves of available information on the topic, viewing each claim found there with a skeptical eye and weighing it on its merits, etc. These days it's more about seeking confirmation, helped out by the social media algorithms. Directly beneath my flat-earth video where I admonish you to do your own research, you'll find a helpful list of more flat-earth videos which you can use t
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bylarryjoe ( 135075 ) writes:
yeah, this part stood out to me:
A LLM will be just as confident when saying something completely wrong -- and obviously so, to a human -- as it will be when saying something true.
I find striking similarities between LLMs and very confident humans. They both have no problems making statements confidently because they are oblivious to or discount completely any consideration of being incorrect.
I remember on one occasion my coworkers and I went to visit a renowned expert who was a VP and fellow at Amazon, in addition to having a bunch of national awards. During the conversation, we asked him a question, and he responded with an answer that was incorrect, which we knew was completely in
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byTablizer ( 95088 ) writes:
Maybe every 80 years or so we collectively have to see the carnage of a demagogue first hand to truly understand that surviving requires accepting nuance rather than a big gimmicky mallet.
bygweihir ( 88907 ) writes:
Sad as it is, it does look like it. Most people have trouble learning from personal experience. That they are incapable of learning from history doe not come as much of a surprise. And little Elon proudly displaying his skill at the Nazi-Salute really says it all.
byTyr07 ( 8900565 ) writes:
I mean you're saying a lot to twist it that way. You're trying to say the rich guy who makes electric cars actually wants people to get put into interment camps, horribly and brutally murdered and tortured for years doing unspeakable horrors to people. You're comparing him to that. Can you actually see him and any evidence of his activities point to that?
Horrible people are the ones who immediately compare someone who hasn't killed anyone to one of the worst killers in the recent history because they didn't
byRetired Chemist ( 5039029 ) writes:
See the Krupps for further information about rich people and demagogues. The whole idea is to stop the idiot-monsters before they have a chance to murder anyone.
bydatabasecowgirl ( 5241735 ) writes:
Maybe not. Musk is is more an ideas man who says the occasional sadistic thing for a laugh, but often is where things start. Not that this would necessarily make him a fascist. Just lowbrow dull.
The Doctor Strangelove salute that seems to have affected control of his arm is concerning. That and his allegiance to a man Goodwin himself says is legitimate to compare to Hitler are a couple of red flags. Along with his, erm, fascination with the AfD and Tommy Robinson. It does strengthen the case.
Although,
bydatabasecowgirl ( 5241735 ) writes:
But don't take my word for it. Here's an interview published in the Times of London with a respected historian in charge of the Buchenwald memorial.
âoeOne can only say to him, âTake a history book and withdraw for three days, read the history book and please be quiet with the poison heâ(TM)s spreadingâ(TM),â said the historian Jens-Christian Wagner, who runs Buchenwald near Weimar, the largest camp memorial on German soil.
âoeI think Musk is a mixture of mad and right-wing
bygweihir ( 88907 ) writes:
Nope. He put himself in that group. Or he just crapped on all the millions the fascists murdered for a gesture. That is really not much better. And do not even dare to tell me he did not know exactly what he was doing.
Seriously, you sound positively deranged trying to make this about me. It is not. It is about Musk and what he clearly did.
bydrinkypoo ( 153816 ) writes:
There is no twisting. He threw the Nazi salute twice, pretended it was something else, and edited it out of the video he posted of the event. Elon may not literally be a Nazi, but he is definitely a white supremacist (which is anything but surprising for a rich white South African) and he definitely is deliberately boosting Nazi speech.
You know what's shit? Making excuses for him.
You're going to have to make up your mind between "Elon is a genius" and "Elon accidentally used a Nazi salute" as they are wholl
bydivide overflow ( 599608 ) writes:
You know who also hated Jews and liked Adolph Hitler?
Henry Ford.
Is there something about automakers that makes them love fascists and hate Jews?
Reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
byShanghaiBill ( 739463 ) writes:
You know who also hated Jews and liked Adolph Hitler? Henry Ford.
Henry Ford liked Hitler, but the feeling was mutual. Hitler idolized Ford.
Is there something about automakers that makes them love fascists and hate Jews?
Building organizations as big as Ford and Tesla requires laser focus and dedication. It is mostly about solving problems about "things" where people are just an annoying necessity.
"Why is it that I always get a whole person when all I want is a pair of hands?" -- Henry Ford
Both Ford and Musk were/are likely Aspies, leading to poor judgment about what is socially acceptable.
Ford had problems with bankers, especially early in his life
bydivide overflow ( 599608 ) writes:
Immense power, poor moral judgment and billions of dollars are a very toxic mix and not to be minimized.
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byTyr07 ( 8900565 ) writes:
I don't know why people want to appropriate Nazi culture and apply it to other aspects, it shows how this is just twisted manipulation is.
Nazi's butchered jewish people. are you saying he wants to hurt jewish people and purge them? No, you're trying to take one of the worst people in history and make that him to further your own goals, and say it somehow applies to other minorities or something. He's not a regular Nazi! He's a SUPER Nazi.
Even if he is as evil as people want to make him, why the hell would
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byMspangler ( 770054 ) writes:
Biden did do a lot of damage in only four years. He outdid Harding's corruption level even considering inflation.
byTablizer ( 95088 ) writes:
Bullshit. Inflation was mostly world-caused, Joe can't control factor shutdowns in Asia. Many countries had inflation much higher than ours as evidence. As far as "corruption", I've seen ZERO clear evidence, only Fox pundit rumors. You are gullible, Repent!
byTablizer ( 95088 ) writes:
Correction: "Joe can't control factory shutdowns in Asia."
My work lingo habits leaked out.
Addendum: US pumping more oil would only change grocery prices a fraction of the cent. OPEC has far more control over oil prices than a US President.
byOrangeTide ( 124937 ) writes:
Democracy is difficult if you have a lot of idiots involved. Usually the idiots stay home and dismiss the political process as this annoying inconvenience.
When people actively stir up the idiots and get them to vote, and both parties do this, you end up with multiple elections that a best described as a dumpster fire. Nobody knows what's going on. Nobody can predict the results. And people can't even accept the results when its all over.
We should just like Elon Musk pick the head of state for us. It would n
bynightflameauto ( 6607976 ) writes:
Democracy is difficult if you have a lot of idiots involved. Usually the idiots stay home and dismiss the political process as this annoying inconvenience.
When people actively stir up the idiots and get them to vote, and both parties do this, you end up with multiple elections that a best described as a dumpster fire. Nobody knows what's going on. Nobody can predict the results. And people can't even accept the results when its all over.
We should just like Elon Musk pick the head of state for us. It would not be a fair system. But at least we'd be honest with ourselves about what kind of system we have.
In a lot of ways, we pretty much let the oligarchs pick for us now, Musk being a part of them. The algorithms of social media have been shaping our society for long enough to have, if not an outright stranglehold, at least a fairly firm grip on the overall direction of the information the voting public consider true. The other media outlets lap up whatever the algorithms are pumping out and report it as news. The vote is simply a reactionary outlet for the public based on whatever media they've managed to s
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byTablizer ( 95088 ) writes:
Thank You for absorbing mod points for saying what many of us want to but don't want the mod hit. As a reward, we'll name a small Gulf after you.
Boring leaders are probably underrated. They keep the wheels turning smoothly without drama. I remember one Linux admin was upset that management claimed they didn't need a full-time admin because problems were rare. This person prided themselves in preventative maintenance.
So they let them go and replaced them with a split-duty desktop support and server admin person who would let things rot and catch fire (perhaps because of lack of time), then act like a hero for putting the fire out. Management seemed to admire that to the dismay of the fired person. Drama sells; humans are merely yappity chimps who follow the shiny ball.
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bygweihir ( 88907 ) writes:
Pragmatic leaders are usually boring. But they can actually get stuff done, slowly and persistently. The flashy ones are doing damage and lighting straw-fires. And get people killed. Much better show, much worse outcome.
bynightflameauto ( 6607976 ) writes:
Pragmatic leaders are usually boring. But they can actually get stuff done, slowly and persistently. The flashy ones are doing damage and lighting straw-fires. And get people killed. Much better show, much worse outcome.
And which is better for generating clickbait headlines and social media outrage streams? Gee, I wonder why the broligarchs are so happy about the new administration?
bygweihir ( 88907 ) writes:
Indeed. Dark times.
byTyr07 ( 8900565 ) writes:
You don't get to create a dumpster fire with everyone suffering then argue now that someone else is in charge it'll become a dumpster fire with everyone suffering.
The lament of those who benefited from the government at the cost of everyone else. The entitled, elite who quietly bought expensive mansions on the back of everyone else. Silently, quietly, while telling you you're right, and that your special and you should have more rights than others. Being morally superior as long as someone else has to pay f
bydrinkypoo ( 153816 ) writes:
Trump and Elon will do much more of all the things you say Biden did (some of them are even true) so yes, it will be much worse.
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byOrangeTide ( 124937 ) writes:
Except when we put one of them in charge of our country... Twice....
That's democracy for you. Except their side keeps insisting that America isn't a democracy when I bring it up. So I'm wondering if Trump is actually President by their own rules?
If the military thinks he's commander-in-chief then at the very least we're a military junta. And that's something at least.
bygweihir ( 88907 ) writes:
Military Junta? No, _that_ requires a General in charge and Trump doe not even remotely have what that takes. For one thing, you need to be able to read for that rank. And little Elon really needs to work on his Nazi-Salute to be taken seriously.
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