I have several large books from Dark Horse on The Legend of Zelda I'd like to use as sources for an article. The problem is, there are several authors, and the translator has some credit for some reason. How do I format this? Blitzfan51speak to the manager 01:00, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Blitzfan51: Create a sandbox at e.g. User:Blitzfan51/cite book sandbox. In that sandbox, experiment with {{Cite book}}, after reading its documentation. If you are not happy with your result, come back here and we can try to help. Worst case: we can help you extend your "cite book" ref with non-templated additional text. -Arch dude (talk) 02:35, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Blitzfan51. If you read the documentation of Template:Cite book, you will see that adding fields to the template for multiple authors and translators can be done quite easily. Another issue is whether books published by this comic book publisher are reliable sources for a video game franchise. Since my active knowledge of comic books and video games ended decades ago, I have no opinion on reliability but advise a cautious assessment. Cullen328 (talk) 02:38, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is my user page in violation of WP:FAKEARTICLE?
I just found out that you can't style something in userspace as a mainspace article, but for just over a week I've had the first line of my user page styled as if it were the opening sentence to an article, then after that it continues in a more typical style of writing for a user page.
Should I edit my user page to remove this? Or does it not break the rules. Theooolone (talk) 12:54, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Relax, it looks fine to me. Slightly humerus and gives readers an idea of what you do, which is ideal. All IMO of course! Martin of Sheffield (talk) 12:58, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see any problem. 331dot (talk) 13:21, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your fine. The purpose behind the policy is to stop people putting a Wikipedia page in userspace and treating it as if it were an actual article. (Not that you couldn't do such a thing elsewhere in userspace, but I digress). Lee Vilenski(talk • contribs) 13:26, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Multiple infoboxes
Hello. Is it permissible to add multiple infoboxes in the same article; I mean, for example, in an article of military campaigns, several conflicts can be occurred. Should we add use a single infobox (in the lead) or, can we use seperate infoboxes wrt the events (in the section). Imperial[AFCND] 13:39, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thankyou. But I have one more question. Can we add infoboxes for very less significant events, which was the part of the main event? Like, battles within the wars? Imperial[AFCND] 13:57, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Let me show an example; I have created Ghaznavid campaigns in India. In that article, I have added 20+ military conflicts. Can I add infoboxes for all of them? Imperial[AFCND] 13:59, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ImperialAficionado: I think three infoboxes max would be reasonable, 20+ would be overkill. If the reader wants to know more about the specific battle, they would just go to its article (following the internal link) which contains its own infobox. Deltaspace42 (talk • contribs) 14:03, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But there is a problem too. There is a problem that most of the battles don't have seperate articles. Inorder to avoid the creation of articles that fails GNG, we adds that into the parent article. But yes. I got it. Creating infoboxes for all will be a real mess. Imperial[AFCND] 14:13, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Douglas Pitt site deleted
I am Douglas Pitt and it looks like user Bbb23 deleted my site on Oct 15, 2023. I would like the site restored and like to know the source that deleted this site. I appreciate any help. Thank you. 173.24.247.247 (talk) 18:23, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia's article entitled "Douglas Pitt" was deleted, as you say, for being unambiguous advertising.
It sounds as it, like many people, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is.
If you meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability - which generally means that there is enough independent material published about you to base an article on - then there could be an article about you. It would not be "your site", it would not be under your control, and it would not necessarily say what you wanted it to say. (See an article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing).
It should be based almost 100% on what those independent reliable sources have published about you, not on what you or your associates say or want to say. It should preferably not be written by you or your associates, though this is not absolutely forbidden.
If you do not meet the criteria for notability - like most of us - then there cannot be an article about you. ColinFine (talk) 18:58, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Should a Dubai Bus article exist?
Hi! Im a member of the WikiProject Dubai and im super confused if an article about its bus services exist or not as the other emirates in the country such as Abu Dhabi have it while Dubai doesnt. And im pretty sure it will be a sub article for the RTA Dubai. So should it exist or not? ThatOneFilipinoExtremeist (talk) 20:05, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There are generally three reasons why an article doesn't exist:
Nobody has written it yet
An article did exist, but has been deleted
The subject does not meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability.
(More than one of the above can apply).
If you think that "bus services in Dubai" has enough sources that it is Wikipedia-notable, then you're welcome to create it. (But I notice that you have not so far created any articles, so I strongly advise that you use the articles for creation system, and make a careful study of your first article before you try). ColinFine (talk) 21:23, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, i checked that "List of bus routes in Dubai" got deleted for some reasons so its best ill not make it..Ill just add a sub article for it.. Thank you! ThatOneFilipinoExtremeist (talk) 20:56, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Heads up: potential 3RR
This isn't serious enough yet for the admin attention board, but also I believe in sounding alarm bells as soon as possible so here goes.
I am baffled at what is going on. Chris Skidmore resigned his Tory Whip according to many news sources therefore I have added him to the list. I also added Andrew Bridgen leaving Reclaim and there was no problem there. JWarrenator (talk) 23:18, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As we're all close to edit warring and 3RR violations I'll have to leave this for now, though that's the next step. doktorbwordsdeeds 03:38, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have yet to see an RS saying he resigned the whip. I looked at the citations provided previously and they didn’t make a single reference to the whip. I am happy to look at some other citations.
Bridgen is an entirely different case. I am unclear why bring Bridgen up. Bondegezou (talk) 13:48, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How can I find an image for the Nazca Ridge MPA for my draft?
Hello, I'm currently making a draft on the fishing industry in Peru and tried to search Wikimedia commons for images on the Nazca Ridge MPA. However, I only really found images on the Nazca Ridge itself and have fallen back on that, however, it's not nearly as informative as having an image of the actual reserve. I've found images online, such as this and this, however, I'm not sure of their copyright protections. Is there any other way I could get an image of the Nazca Ridge MPA? SonOfYoutubers (talk) 22:30, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SonOfYoutubers: You might try a friendly e-mail to the folks who run the organization. Explain how Commons copyright works and request that one of them upload a properly-licensed picture. Offer to help, and explain why a good picture in a good Wikipedia article might be an advantage to the organization. -Arch dude (talk) 01:10, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Arch dude: I think that could be a good idea, but I also got this idea after I posted this: Can I make my own map with the ridge mapped out based on those sources and upload it to commons? SonOfYoutubers (talk) 01:19, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SonOfYoutubers: Yes, you may create a map, but you must not incorporate any "creative element" from any copyrighted sources. This should not be a problem. The information itself is explicitly not a "creative element". You should however cite your sources on the image description page of your uploaded map. You will own the copyright on your map as "own work", and you will therefore be able to upload it with a CC-BY-SA license. -Arch dude (talk) 05:29, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know the last page in the A-Z Index is humorous.
What is the next-to-the-last page? Ifyoucrydon'tlose (talk) 00:43, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ifyoucrydon'tlose: It isn't clear what you're referring to – as far as I can tell the last page in the A-Z index is (see [2]). Tollens (talk) 01:01, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is a Wikipedia page called 'All pages'. On that page you'll see the word 'starting' and the word 'ending'. My question is what is the ending page, the last page in the alphabetical list of Wikipedia pages? Ifyoucrydon'tlose (talk) 01:13, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have two problems with that character. First if I put that character into Special:AllPages 'Display pages ending at:' and click to 'Go' button it shows a long list below of articles which apparently follow that symbol.
The second problem is that when I type that symbol into the search box of Wikipedia, it takes me to a page 'Universal Character Set characters', certainly not the ending page. Ifyoucrydon'tlose (talk) 01:26, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Let me rephrase my request: I would like to see an alphabetical list of all the articles in Wikipedia and be able to go to the end of that list to see the last article in the list. Ifyoucrydon'tlose (talk) 02:00, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ifyoucrydon'tlose, this depends on how you organize articles that don't start with letters. If you only include pages starting with the letters a-z, the last would be the redirect ZZZZZZ, and the second to last would be the article ZZZZZ. LittlePuppers (talk) 02:14, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The problem I'm having is that I'm unable to browse articles in alphabetical order. In a print encyclopedia one can browse articles this way by turning pages. Apparently one can't do that with Wikipedia. On any given page there is no 'Previous article' or 'Next article' button. And I'm surprised that there is no alphabetical list of articles. Ifyoucrydon'tlose (talk) 02:37, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I paged back from the end and found Ỹaroamë language, which is the last article beginning with a Latin letter plus a diacritic before the Greek letters start. TSventon (talk) 02:51, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. My understanding is that Wikipedia uses Unicode to alphabetize symbols. I'm interesting in browsing all the articles including those starting with various Unicode symbols. Ifyoucrydon'tlose (talk) 02:55, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The thing is that (as far as I know) there's not always a clear way to alphabetize all of Unicode - alphabetizing is, by nature, a way of ordering an alphabet, and Unicode has, well, quite a few alphabets. (The other major difference is that, unlike a physical encyclopedia, Wikipedia has several thousand volumes worth of text, and a table of contents alone could take upwards of a hundred - which in combination with having other ways to search it, perhaps explains why this mode of navigating hasn't been prioritized much.)
Ỹ is near the end of the "Latin extended additional" block of Unicode, which precedes the "Greek Extended" block. (See Unicode block#List of blocks.) LittlePuppers (talk) 03:08, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The reason you would see a long list of articles there is that you're putting the character in the wrong box – if you display pages ending with that character there would of course be every single Wikipedia page before it. If you start at the character it is the only one in the list as no pages come after it. Special:AllPages is the alphabetical list you're asking for – you can flip forward using the "Next page" button at the top of the list, and view articles starting with arbitrary Unicode (if they exist) by placing the character in the "Display pages starting at" box. In terms of the fact that you do not end up on a page with the character I provided: this is because that page is a redirect. I am not aware of a way to search for the last alphabetical non-redirect page, though. Tollens (talk) 07:38, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I realize now that I need to put that character in the 'starting' box. It does appear to be at the end of 'All pages'. The list at 'All pages' is huge. It is like an index. I'm interested in a much shorter list: a list of articles. It can be alphabetized in the same way as the pages. What's strange about 'All pages' is that there is a box 'Namespace' which has the word '(Article)' in it, but the list below is 'All pages'. I just want to see articles.
I have a second problem now: Wikipedia refuses to let me log in on my other computer. It knows me by my previous username, indexguy. Ifyoucrydon'tlose (talk) 12:17, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe I have discovered the answer: If you go to Special:AllPages and enter a randon article name like 'Flat Feet' in the 'starting' box, you have all kinds of entries below. I noticed that many entries are in italics. I figured out that an entry in italics is an entry that redirects to an article. If an entry is not in italics, then that is an article. The next article after 'Flat Feet' is 'Flat Fell', then 'Flat Fire'. Wikipedia needs to alert readers to this distinction. Ifyoucrydon'tlose (talk) 12:30, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ifyoucrydon'tlose: As you said, Special:Allpages already visualizes redirects by displaying them in italics. The "Display pages ending at" box is meant to be used together with "Display pages starting at". Otherwise it starts at the beginning of all pages. is the last stored page name but it's a redirect as mentioned. Our MediaWiki software implements redirects by creating a page with special code so there is a page called (click to see the page). Whether it would appear at the end of a printed Wikipedia depends on whether it would include redirects. Special:Allpages ends with a lot of redirects on special characters. The last non-redirect maybe𝼝. I haven't fully checked that all the thousands of following pages are redirects. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:57, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ifyoucrydon'tlose: If you save .allpagesredirect {display:none;}inyour CSS then redirects are hidden at Special:Allpages. I did this and found that 𝼝 is indeed the last "real" article. There are several non-redirect pages after it on icons but they are all pages like 🥺 which is the last. They technically count as article pages even though they say "Wikipedia does not have an article ..." PrimeHunter (talk) 20:25, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for adding that line to the top of Special:AllPages. Ifyoucrydon'tlose (talk) 22:44, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Information
Any possible improvements to the Haile Selassie I article? Maybe citations so that it can be listed as a good article when nominated. CtasACT (talk) 00:58, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What exactly are you asking? If it is for people to collaborate with you, it's unlikely that people at the Help Desk will want to do that, unless the subject happens to interest them a lot. ColinFine (talk) 11:58, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes i would like to see if this article has any more things to fix before i again nominated it for a Good article review, so before that i would like to fix as many problems as possible. CtasACT (talk) 18:44, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kenny198964: Each Wikipedia has its own rules. You will need to ask at the zh Wikipedia about that. RudolfRed (talk) 01:37, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Can it be created as English content? I am Taiwanese and not fluent in English. Kenny198964 (talk) 01:49, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kenny198964: Potentially, but because each language Wikipedia has its own policies and guidelines it's unlikely it'll remain intact if it ever becomes an article on here. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:06, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Permanent page
My Wikipedia page is currently a user page, please let me know how to make it public page Thelostsymbols (talk) 01:44, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've moved it to Draft:The Lost Symbols. You can work on it there. Please change your username in order not to give the impression that you are, collectively, the band. -- Hoary (talk) 01:52, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How can I change my username, please help me with it Thelostsymbols (talk) 02:02, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have requested my Wikipedia username change. Please approve it Thelostsymbols (talk) 02:11, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think there is some confusion here. I think your user name is River1995, and has always been - you don't need to rename it.
There doesn't seem to have been a user account called Thelostsymbols. I suspect that what has happened is that you tried to create an article on The Lost Symbols, and accidentally created it in user space, so it was called User:Thelostsymbols, so people assumed that that was your user name. --ColinFine (talk) 12:26, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A page has disappeared - please bring it back.
I saw a stub page for the seismologist Catherine Woodgold asking for more info. While I was looking for references to use, the page disappeared. Apparently I can ask an Admin to undelete. Please undelete. There's still a french version around, but I'd prefer English. 70.50.58.102 (talk) 03:15, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There does not appear to have ever been a page with the exact title Catherine Woodgold - can you remember exactly what the title was, and if it for sure was on the English Wikipedia? There may be someone who is able to help you here, but a better place to ask would be here. LittlePuppers (talk) 03:41, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The corresponding article exists on the French Wikipedia, and there is no deletion log as far as I can tell here, so it might not have ever existed. You could create the article as a draft and publish it once you're ready with all of the references added. Reconrabbit 06:43, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As an administrator I can see at Special:Undelete that there are no deleted pages with "Woodgold" in the title. There is a Wikidata page Catherine Woodgold (Q2942105) but it's hard to confuse for an encyclopedia article. She has a user page at citizendium:User:Catherine Woodgold but that website is not affiliated with Wikipedia. It just looks similar because it uses the same software. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:23, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
NCAA Division I men's basketball tournament bids by conference page
Hi I'm looking for NCAA Division I men's basketball tournament bids by conference seems to have disappeared completely
I can't find that that article has ever existed. You do mean on Wikipedia, right? Basketball Wiki is nothing whatever to do with Wikipedia (it just uses the same software, so appears similar). ColinFine (talk) 12:05, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
International English language Grammer
I am using the grammar tool browser using Grammarly to edit the article. Can I disable the Grammarly extension from this Wikipedia web? Can I change my English country? Why did the contributions article edit international English grammar so important? 47.234.198.142 (talk) 04:28, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there! I Googled "turn off grammarly on Wikipedia" and found this article. I Googled "change grammarly language" and found this article. I don't understand your last question. Could you please rephrase it? If you're referring to a specific Wikipedia article, please let us know which one. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 05:03, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You just stop using it. For legal reasons, accounts cannot be deleted, though you can request Wikipedia:Courtesy vanishing, which renames the account and makes most other details inaccessible to other ordinary users. AndyTheGrump (talk) 04:54, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Clarityfiend: You probably don't. Searching is clearly the primary topic for the word "Search" and as such the redirect should point there. A particular title should only be a disambiguation page if there is no primary topic for that title.Search (disambiguation) would be a reasonable place for this article, though I see you've just removed it from that page. Typically if you are looking to edit a protected page you should submit an edit request; this is made easier by the edit request wizard. Tollens (talk) 07:46, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I should've looked at Searching first. My apologies. Still, The Search is clearly not the primary topic here. Readers are likely looking for the same articles whether they wind up at "Search" or "Searching", so the combined disambiguation page is appropriate. Tollens (talk) 07:52, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to try something. Logically the few Search entries should be joined with The Search. Thanks. Clarityfiend (talk) 07:54, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
how we can furnish you with correct information to update data on the Floriana FC page? So far from where are you getting the information listed? Do we, as FLORIANA FC have already an account with you ? and if yes you is our recognised person who is acting on behalf of Floriana FC? 195.158.101.33 (talk) 09:04, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. The information in the article Floriana F.C. comes from (or should come from - I haven't checked) the many published sources cited in it.
If you are a representative of the club, then please note that you have a conflict of interest with respect to this article, and should not edit it directly; however, if there is information which is incorrect, you are welcome to submit edit requests on the article's talk page - make sure that they are supported by reliable published sources.
Your question about accounts indicates that, like many people, you do not understand how Wikipedia works. No club or society in the entire world "has an account with" Wikipedia - that is forbidden. Any individual may create an account in Wikipedia, and accounts may not be shared, or belong to organisations.
Almost anybody in the world may edit the article Floriana F.C., except people who are associated with the club, who are asked not to do so directly, but to make requests as I explained above. There is not - and cannot be - any "recognised person" in the way you suggest.
Note also that Wikipedia has little interest in what the subject of an article says or wants to say about themselves, or what their associates say about them. Wikipedia is almost entirely interested in what people who have no connection with the subject, and who have not been prompted or fed information on behalf of the subject, have chosen to publish about the subject in reliable sources. If enough material is cited from independent sources to establish notability, a limited amount of uncontroversial factual information may be added from non-independent sources. ColinFine (talk) 12:17, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reference help requested.
A "bare URL and missing title" error. References show this error when they do not have a title. I'm very busy now and it needs a lot of time (for me).
Thanks, Sinucep (talk) 11:12, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For each one, I've just been adding a citation to the BBC listing guide to show that the episode existed? Is that right? I'll be left with a massive list of references or can I remove all the references? Dupont Circle (talk) 13:05, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dupont Circle: The references are good. They reference the whole row so they can be placed in a Ref column like Pokémon Go live events#Community Days. Interested readers can also find additional information about the episode in the reference. I would reduce repetition by omitting website=BBC Genome Project after the first reference when there is already publisher=BBC in every reference. After looking around, I would actually reduce the workload by just using https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006sf81/episodes/guide as a reference for the whole table. I haven't seen it documented in our guidelines but it's common to just write Source: <ref>...</ref> above or below a table if the ref covers almost everything. The dates can be found by clicking the episode in the ref. That's good enough. Adding individual references with direct links in each row is better but a lot of work for an article with uncontroversial content and three daily page views. I wouldn't remove the existing row references when the work has already been done. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:47, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I checked, and you are correct. The references are incorrectly formatted. However, this is not the right place for this discussion (see Am I in the right place?). Please discuss this in the page's discussion tab. Have a great day!
Hi, I've created a new category: Category:Attorneys General of Canada East, Province of Canada. I've linked it to a parent category: Category:British colonial attorneys general in the Americas. That part is working. However, it's sorting in the "British colonial attorneys general" under the "A" section, for "Attorney General". I'd like it to sort under the "C" section, for "Canada East". All of the other categories sort by jurisdiction, but I can't figure out how to do that. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 16:49, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much! I didn't realise that could also be used for sub-categories. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 21:36, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Request to swap article with its redirect
The article 'Dorset County Museum' has a redirect to it from 'Dorset Museum'. The museum has recently renamed itself as Dorset Museum, as documented and referenced in the article. Could someone technically competent please swap (move) the two pages, so that the main article is 'Dorset Museum', with a redirect to it from 'Dorset County Museum'? The last time I tried to do this I got in a horrible mess, and had to make an embarassing request for time-consuming help to sort it out. Many thanks. ~~~ Masato.harada (talk) 18:06, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Masato.harada: You should be able to request a technical move request here . —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 18:17, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Masato.harada: It usually requires an administrator to move a page to an existing title but not in this case per WP:MOVEOVERREDIRECT since Dorset Museum only has one revision which redirects to Dorset County Museum. Just make the move normally. I understand your concern after a bad experience but if a move goes through, you didn't make a mess. If it doesn't go through, always request help to avoid making a mess. There is no valid way to do it without the required user right. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:17, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Deletion of trivial citation needed templates, vs searching for the source
Hello, after reviewing WP:CITENEED I have a question: under what circumstances is it acceptable to simply delete a citation needed template, rather than searching for a source for the statement? If I simply feel that the template should not have been needed in the first place due to non-controversial statements, sufficient citation elsewhere, etc, is that enough to delete the template? Or should I be more hesitant? edit: specifically, I am editing medical and scientific pages. Just-a-can-of-beans (talk) 21:26, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just-a-can-of-beans, if an editor acting in good faith has placed a "citation needed" tag after a statement, then, by definition, the statement cannot ever be "non-controversial". You must either add a reference or leave the tag alone. Your choice. You also mention "sufficient citation elsewhere". If a reference to a reliable source exists elsewhere in the article, then use the WP:REFNAME function to re-use the reference repeatedly within the article. You mention working on "medical and scientific pages". With the possible exception of Biographies of living people, I cannot think of any type of article that requires more rigorous and scrupulous referencing. Stick with high standards. Cullen328 (talk) 09:59, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just-a-can-of-beans, philosophically there's no one-size-fits-all truism for this, because ultimately it all rests on the slippery slopes of human language:
People sometimes add maintenance tags tendentiously—or at least rhetorically, i.e. for reasons other than wanting a claim to be verifiable.
There is truly such a thing as overcitation—almost never in practice, but it is possible and attainable: the reason WP:BLUE says you don't need to cite "Paris is the capital of France" is because at some point, the bibliography would cease to be useful to the reader.
However, like Cullen says above: the vast majority of the time, the unambiguous best thing to do is just to cite it. It probably makes the article better to do so. — Remsense诉 10:09, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Honestly, I don't find the reference within this page useful, I would delete it (if I started a discussion within the article's discussion page it would be read after (at least) 2 years). JackkBrown (talk) 21:46, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JackkBrown: If you don't want to be WP:BOLD and don't want to discuss on the article's talk page, then leave it alone and find another article to work on. RudolfRed (talk) 22:16, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@RudolfRed: I have removed the "reference", anyone who disagrees with me is free to edit the article. JackkBrown (talk) 22:20, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JackkBrown: what was the problem with the reference you removed? Generally one reference to a reliable source is better than none. TSventon (talk) 22:32, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@TSventon: I restored the reference and corrected the text. JackkBrown (talk) 23:43, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JackkBrown: How can you predict when a post on the article's talk page will be read? GoingBatty (talk) 03:45, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
JackkBrown, the article has existed for nearly ten years and has had more than a dozen contributors. It is likely that some of them have it on their Watchlist, so if you had made a new entry on the Talk page, they would have been notified of the fact and might have investigated and responded. There will only be activity on the Talk page when there is something to talk about.
You could also have checked the 'View history' (as I just did) to see who are the more prolific contributors, and invited them on their Talk pages to discuss your concerns at the Article Talk page.
Wikipedia is a collaborative project, and sometimes one has to make some effort to initiate collaboration: these Help/Teahouse desks are not the only route for that. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 51.198.104.88 (talk) 11:46, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Trying to update a page
Keep getting blocked when trying to update a page. I tried yesterday to update a page with increasing lengths of time in between. I gave up and tried again today (15+ hours later) and still receiving a blocked message.
"As an anti-abuse measure, you are limited from performing this action too many times in a short space of time, and you have exceeded this limit. Please try again in a few minutes. If you are attempting to run a bot or semi-automated script, please read and understand our bot policy, then request approval. Users who run unauthorized bot scripts may lose their editing privileges."
How can I fix this? I'm not using a bot or program I am typing out a small section of past principals, to the Wiki page for a school I work at International Grammar School. Andrew.whiskin (talk) 22:52, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In general, you should not be editing an article about something you are associated with and therefore have a potential WP:CONFLICTOFINTEREST. Clarityfiend (talk) 00:32, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks all! I have added a talk topic, if someone might be able to review it and submit it on my behalf it would be greatly appreciated. I was asked to update the Wikipedia page by our communications/marketing team haha Andrew.whiskin (talk) 03:43, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You give me too much credit - I cannot crop file - is anyone able to straighten it up? Sorry again Srbernadette (talk) 03:51, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Srbernadette: When you go to commons:File:Dame_Roland.png, do you see the "CropTool" in the menu on the left hand size of the page? The file won't crop nicely until someone else rotates the image slightly to the right. GoingBatty (talk) 04:00, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia Commons wouldn't permit me to overwrite the file (a restriction that's new to me and surprised me), so I uploaded a new version to commons:File:Dame_Roland_b.png. Because this was not a new version of a file but instead a new filename I was asked to go through the rigmarole of categorizing, etc. I had little patience for this. Srbernadette perhaps you can improve the categorizing, as well as chopping off the text (if you want it chopped off): too much guillotining for my taste. -- Hoary (talk) 06:53, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@G.d.bricknell: You used VisualEditor where a new user may easily delete a whole infobox by accident instead of an infobox image. Click the infobox and then "Edit" below to change the image field without deleting the infobox. Opinions are divided but most users do like infoboxes and don't want them deleted even if everything is repeated in the article text. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:30, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Problem
I ask here because the topic is relevant anyway and because I would like to receive more feedback. On the List of Italian dishes page, there are many unknown foods in English in the main sections, while there are other unknown foods in the regional variants. To avoid confusion, it would be better to do one of the following: include all foods from the regional variants in the main sections as well, or include all unknown foods in English from the main sections within the regional variants. JackkBrown (talk) 11:38, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@JackkBrown: The place to have the conversation is the article's talk page (as you've been doing in this case). To receive more feedback, invite the editors who have made significant additions/changes to the article to join the conversation. You may also post a request on the associated WikiProject's talk page to invite them to the conversation. GoingBatty (talk) 14:44, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Watch articles under Wikiproject
Is there a way to watch the recent changes made on articles under the scope of a certain wikiproject?
Thanks! I did not know the bambots tool. I could not figure out how to make it work... perhaps Bamyers99 can help clarifying if it's permanently broken or not. -- Gor1995𝄞 22:07, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Gor1995 and Shushugah: WikiProjectRecentChanges has been retired. It did not survive the move to my personal server. I just looked at resurrecting it, but could not figure out how to query the needed information from the Wikimedia server. --Bamyers99 (talk) 23:42, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Jethrob101. Writing a Wikipedia article from scratch is a very difficult undertaking. Your best bet is to closely look at our notability guidelines to see if the Museum Project passes our criteria for inclusion. If it does, then I'd recommend you start a draft article via our Articles for Creation process which will allow an experienced editor to review your draft on submission and give feedback.
Please note if you are being paid by the Project you must make a declaration by following the instructions at WP:PAID. If you are connected to the project you must also make this clear by following the instructions at WP:COI. Qcne(talk) 18:59, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Jethrob101. Your choice of words "set up a page for" suggests that, like many people, you misunderstand what Wikipedia is and how it works.
If your project has already been written about by several independent, reliable sources, then Wikipedia could have an article about it, based almost entirely on what those independent sources say, not on what the project itself says or wants to say. You and your colleagues are discouraged from writing this article, but not forbidden.
If an article is accepted into the encyclopaedia, whoever writes it, it will not be owned or controlled by your or your project, and it will not necessarily say what you would like it to say. Your role will be limited to suggesting edits, which should be backed up by independent published sources. promotion of any sort (a.k.a. "telling the world about") is forbidden.
In addition, as Qcne says, writing a new article is a challenging task, even for an editor who does not have a conflict of interest, and I would advise anybody against trying it before they have spent a few months editing existing articles and learning how Wikipedia works. ColinFine (talk) 21:31, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Adding a book to a list of books in a Wikipedia article
I've added a book ("The Negev and the Bedouins: nomads, living areas and the land problem, 1800-1967") to article Ruth Kark.
Have I formatted the information correctly? Is there a tool for doing this?
This is the Hebrew version of the book as the English version is not out yet. I used Google Translate to derive the English title from the Hebrew title. Is that the correct thing to do?
I tried searching for the book using Special:BookSources but neither form of ISBN was recognised (978-1885881786 and 1885881789). Does that happen often?
As far as I can see, you have added it correctly. However, I question why it needed to be added: in my opinion, the list of works is already too long.
What that article needs is not more content, but better sources. I suspect that Kark does meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability, but the sources do not demonstrate this. Apart from nos 3 and 4, which I haven't looked at, most of the rest do not contain siginificant coverage of Kark, and the biography is obviously not independent.
What that article needs more than anything else is some independent sources which discuss her indepth, meeting the criteria in the golden rule. ColinFine (talk) 21:42, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's a small problem, but I don't know why there's white space in the "External links" paragraph that shouldn't be there. JackkBrown (talk) 20:52, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there! Log in to your account, and go to Special:Preferences. On the "User profile" tab, scroll down until you see your email address and click the "Change or remove your email address" button. Happy editing! GoingBatty (talk) 21:48, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Censorship
Is it true that Wikipedia have blocked/banned/cancelled Amir Tsafarti and 'Behold Israel'? 121.75.183.0 (talk) 21:53, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey anon. There doesn't seem to have been an article by either of these names. So it's not clear what you're referring to. GMGtalk 21:55, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is also no username matching either the name of the person, or of the organisatiomn As far as I can tell they haven't been blocked or banned (cancelling isn't a thing here); Then again, if they were editing anonymously.or pseudonymously, and were causing disruption, they might have been. We don't know who is behind most accounts. GirthSummit (blether) 22:03, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have a draft of a potential article in a sandbox. Where do I go to have some editor with article creation experience take a look and give me some feedback. Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 22:46, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A consensus of ordinary editors decides, according to Wikipedia's policies and principles. If you are talking about deleting an article or draft, see deletion process. If you are talking about removing material from an article, see WP:BRD. ColinFine (talk) 23:42, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi,
I don't exactly understand what you are asking. This page might be helpful: Wikipedia:Content removal.
seen here in the info box on Madame Roland's page, replace the slightly different and crooked (not straight and with too many words) image of Madame Roland seen on Susannah Taylor's page please? It is FAR superior, but please make the image smaller than the drawing of the page's subject - Sussanah Taylor.
Thanks 175.38.42.62 (talk) 01:51, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
They are two different people. Taylor just had an unusual nickname. I see no need for a picture of Roland to be included in Taylor's biography. I will remove it. Cullen328 (talk) 01:58, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, IP. Aside from the (very important) question of their applicability to a different person, fistfuls of pictures of Mme Roland are available at Commons, you know. -- Hoary (talk) 06:40, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Citation
What exactly is a citation and how does it work, and does it require a precise article on the subject or topic or can it be a blog which has a proper information, and what is a reliable source. Jfebin1998 (talk) 05:53, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Jfebin1998, today's featured article is Handel's lost Hamburg operas. It has citations. If you click on them you can see how they work. A reference need not be an article that's primarily about the subject -- it may instead be primarily about a different subject but say something of interest about "your" subject and be referred to for this information. Other than for very limited purposes, it may not be a blog. For the meaning of "reliable source", please read and digest WP:RS. -- Hoary (talk) 06:36, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How can I stop you from deducting money from my credit card? I've contributed for years but have lost my job and don't want to donate any more right now. You've emailed me months ago saying you would stop but yet............ You still keep drawing on my credit card!
Maloneymike, volunteers at the Help Desk are not involved with donation drives or anything directly related to donations. Please see this page for help—you should probably email donate@wikimedia.org to get help cancelling any donations. Thank you. — Remsense诉 07:42, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And if all else fails, contact your credit card company and they can block any 3rd party that you want, from making any further withdrawals. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 09:46, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How to view Wikipedia in Dark Mode?
Is there a way to display Wikipedia in dark mode on your computer? (Mac or PC) The Wikipedia app can do it on your phone, but browsers on your phone don't seem to be able to either.
@WHIMPEYD: While there's no official dark mode for desktop, there are a couple ways – the full list of options is at WP:DARK. All the options there will also affect browsers on mobile, assuming you are logged in under the same account there as well. Tollens (talk) 09:47, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a place for Israel-Palestine conflict help?
I've recently seen a new article and some edits on Israel-Palestine related issues that I'd view as extremely contentious. I really don't want to start editing heavily in that space - if I start reverting or requesting deletion, I know I'll be down a rabbit hole for days (I don't think I'm allowed to either, I don't know what the conditions are). Is there a neutral noticeboard or project where I can flag something I saw, where it will get attention from people with varied viewpoints? Samuelshraga (talk) 10:23, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Concerning conditions—while users are encouraged to be vigilant concerning potential conflicts of interest they may have, there are no relevant restrictions on what a user may or may not edit or what biases a user may or may not have, as long as they are not reflected in their editing and they remain civil towards others. The relevant subject is presently designated a contentious topic, so ensure you know what that entails. Other than that...you're being a tad imprecise here. If you want a place to discuss specific concerns, the best place is usually the article talk page. There is also the neutral point of view noticeboard, though posting on it should usually be accompanied by a talk page discussion. If there is a pattern of obviously uncivil or otherwise abusive behavior from specific users, WP:AN/I is the place to report that. Cheers! — Remsense诉 11:47, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Samuelshraga welcome to Teahouse! Editing in Israel/Palestine is not only emotionally challenging but there are many more rules and guidelines. One of them is that only editors with WP:ECP status (500 edits/30 days of activity) can edit. I would recommend you spend your time productively learning about other areas of Wikipedia first. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 14:50, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Shushugah, I assume that the rule about ECP status means that editors without ECP status should not post about Israel/Palestine on noticeboards like ANI or NPOV, am I correct? I have read Template:Welcome-arbpia and am still uncertain. TSventon (talk) 15:03, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This editing restriction primarily applies to Article mainspace, and the guidelines explicitly allow newer editors to make edit requests on the talk page. I would derive from that, ANI/other non Main namespaces would be permitted, but generally discouraged. ~ 🦝 Shushugah (he/him • talk) 15:26, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Spam email from Wikipedia
I have received an email asking for a monthly standing order for Wikipedia. I believe this to be a scam. How do I report it to you?
It will fool some people that would be pleased to support Wikipedia but this seems a scam. 213.18.159.104 (talk) 11:33, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I just put out a big update on the California's 35th State Assembly district as it needed to be updated as their was a redistricting and an election, I figured everything else out but I cant update the infobox. I wanted to update the population and change it from D-Paso Robles to D-Bakersfield as well. LuNaCy (talk) 15:45, 17 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Courtesy link: Floriana F.C.
Fixed by another editor. GoingBatty (talk) 16:45, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
