Jump to content
 







Main menu
   


Navigation  



Main page
Contents
Current events
Random article
About Wikipedia
Contact us
Donate
 




Contribute  



Help
Learn to edit
Community portal
Recent changes
Upload file
 








Search  

































Create account

Log in
 









Create account
 Log in
 




Pages for logged out editors learn more  



Contributions
Talk
 



















Contents

   



(Top)
 


1 Untitled  
5 comments  




2 Not a Bap  
2 comments  




3 Is it a Bap?  
11 comments  




4 External links modified  
1 comment  













Talk:Blaa




Page contents not supported in other languages.  









Article
Talk
 

















Read
Edit
Add topic
View history
 








Tools
   


Actions  



Read
Edit
Add topic
View history
 




General  



What links here
Related changes
Upload file
Special pages
Permanent link
Page information
Get shortened URL
Download QR code
 




Print/export  



Download as PDF
Printable version
 
















Appearance
   

 






From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 


Untitled[edit]

Luncheon meat is actually one of the more common fillings for blaas. And one of the most popular types is commonly referred to as Red Lead in Waterford due to its distinct red colour. That edit by User 193.1.57.1 is accurate. --Jmccormac 10:47, 24 January 2007 (UTC) This just looks like a floury bap. Hardly a waterford speciality.--194.145.134.26 17:05, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It may look like that but it does not taste like a bap and it does not have the texture of a bap.--Jmccormac 10:54, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What happened with the NPOV in this article. It's not very encyclopaedic to call it "delicious". --87.196.83.72 20:54, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to de-POV it; without any reliable sources, this should probably be a redirect. --John 19:27, 23 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tayto cheese and onion crisps is also a popular filling in a Blaa —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eamodaly (talkcontribs) 11:24, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not a Bap[edit]

″Blaas are sometimes confused with a similar bun known as a bap, however, Blaas are square in shape, softer and doughier, and are most notably identified by the white flour shaken over them before the baking process.″

Trying to highlight the differences between a blaa and a bap, not call them the same thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.231.158.157 (talk) 15:37, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The Journal link cited refers to the Blaa as a "Waterford Bap". The title is wrong. It is best to replace it with a citation from something more accurate. Jmccormac (talk) 22:45, 2 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Is it a Bap?[edit]

What is it about a blaa what doesn't met these definitions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.171.175.194 (talk) 16:38, 16 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to add

I think we should change the opening line to "A blaa /blɑː/, or Waterford Blaa, is a doughy, white bap"

It is not a bap. Jmccormac (talk) 15:20, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Can you cite anything? Just sounds like a POV at the moment!
In particular, I'd like to know why it doesn't meet any of the definitions above? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dona seel (talkcontribs) 15:33, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Because it is not a bap. http://www.agriculture.gov.ie/media/migration/foodindustrydevelopmenttrademarkets/geographicalindicationsprotectednames/SpecificationWaterfordBlaaFINALVersion061014.pdf Jmccormac (talk) 15:35, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see anything there that the supersedes the definition of a bap from 4 prestigious sources.

“Waterford Blaa” / “Blaa” is a soft doughy white bread roll clearly identified by the white floury top on the product.

— "SPECIFICATION", “Waterford Blaa” / “Blaa”

A large, round, flattish bread roll, typically with a spongy texture and floury top.

— "Definition of bap in English", https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/bap
Sir, it's a floury bap at best. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dona seel (talkcontribs) 15:44, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not a bap. It is that simple. Jmccormac (talk) 15:50, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not exactly balanced or well cited; it's just your personal opinion - which has no place in an encyclopedia.
My opinion is that it's a floury bap ... it's that simple.
It is not a bap. Jmccormac (talk) 16:00, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It's a floury bap.Dona seel (talk) 16:14, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Next step? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Third_opinion — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dona seel (talkcontribs) 16:15, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It is described as a bun not a bap. Jmccormac (talk) 00:01, 25 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Response to third opinion request (Debate deserves coverage):
Jmccormac simply asserting your stance that something is not so is not really going to help move the discussion forward. It feels like addressing the substance Dona seel brought as you did when you posted this would have helped move the discussion forward. In reviewing the article, the sources cited here, and doing some of my own research, I would suggest as a neutral third party that dictionary definitions don't necessarily help us identify what something is. Instead reliable secondary sources do. There do not appear to be reliable sources, yet present or in my casual searching, saying that a Blaa is a bap. There are some Irish RS that suggest it's not. In fact the debate about whether it is a Bap or not probably deserves some coverage in the article proper, instead of just stating it's not. Given the absence of explicitly stating it is and the presence of evidence that it's not, t should not be described as such in the WP:LEAD. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 05:55, 27 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Barkeep49 for your time. My opinion is now aligned with you, that is:

  1. It should not be described as such in the WP:LEAD
  2. The debate about whether it is a Bap or not probably deserves some coverage in the article proper

Jmccormac can I put forward the following idea for the main article, I'm open to wording suggestions: New section called "Is it a bap?" Move and reword "Blaas are sometimes confused with a similar bun known as a bap; however, blaas are square in shape, softer, and doughier, and are most notably identified by the white flour shaken over them before the baking process." into the new section. Add dictionary definitions, add, description from Waterford Blaa specification.

External links modified[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on Blaa. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to trueorfailed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}).

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 5 June 2024).

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 12:24, 3 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Blaa&oldid=1200098769"

Categories: 
Stub-Class Food and drink articles
Low-importance Food and drink articles
WikiProject Food and drink articles
Stub-Class Ireland articles
Low-importance Ireland articles
Stub-Class Ireland articles of Low-importance
All WikiProject Ireland pages
 



This page was last edited on 28 January 2024, at 19:17 (UTC).

Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 4.0; additional terms may apply. By using this site, you agree to the Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. Wikipedia® is a registered trademark of the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., a non-profit organization.



Privacy policy

About Wikipedia

Disclaimers

Contact Wikipedia

Code of Conduct

Developers

Statistics

Cookie statement

Mobile view



Wikimedia Foundation
Powered by MediaWiki