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claim that is not substantiated. The Fig Newton was named after a General Mills employee.

Also not true. The Newton was named after my great-great grandfather J. Newton Rumble. He was a childhood friend of the owner of a bakery in Davenport IA. The name has stuck ever since then. Nabisco chose to not change it when they purchased the company. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.159.49.50 (talk) 21:38, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Cecil Adams, someone far more successful and smarter than I, answered this smartly at: http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a980508.html

I have taken the liberty of revising the article to include the facts presented there. I've also done some research at http://www.nabiscoworld.com and http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/blfig_newton.htm to create a better article...--SeanO 20:39, Sep 6, 2003 (UTC)

"It's not a cookie mother, its a fruit Newton." "Cookies are... but Newtons are fruit and cake." both of these are from Newton commercials, claiming that they are not cookies. I don't sonsider them such.

A fruitcakling is a cookie. Read the Dutch. lysdexia 11:24, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

"Read the Ductch"? I don't understand. Care to explain

I still say it's not a cookie--Ricimer, May 5, 2005

Try reading the Fig Newton package, right beneath the product name. "Fruit Chewy Cookies!" -- Matt S., 14:12, 10/17/05

Having travelled fairly extensively through the UK, USA and Australia, I can tell you that Fig-Newtons are not at all the same as Fig-Rolls. Claiming that Fig-Newtons are known as Fig-Rolls in the UK is patently false. 202.134.250.98 03:46, 15 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I must admit, the change in advertising slogan has confused and depressed me. Growing up, Fig Newtons were, not cookies, but "fruit and cake". Now they are "Fruit Chewy Cookies". Does anyone know what caused them to abandon their old slogan in favor of a decisively opposite one? --Cliedl 19:38, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Can a better phrasing be found for "...They have traditionally been rather unusual..." --Wetman 10:09, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How about: "Their unusual shape is a characterisitic that has recently been adopted by competitors, such as..." --SeanO 22:25, 24 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How could Fig Newtons be patented? Patents last at most 20 years, not 100.... Calbaer 20:54, 25 July 2006 (UTC) Repatenting. Also patents last longer.[reply]

"Newton" is a trademark registered by Nabisco. Please remove generic information about fig bars to the newly-created fig bar article. Danorton 23:05, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bummer! I noticed someone just removed the lyrics I posted, claiming it was "probably still copyrighted by Nabisco". Does this apply to commercial jingles over 30 years old? I think that was the only complete set of lyrics to the classic anywhere on the internet -- all other sources, including Nabisco's own website, leave out several entire verses! Mind you, I was going strictly on memory, but the ad was so well known at the time one would think it would be available on youtube or the like. Here's one last look at the lyrics before it gets deleted again;

"Chewy, oo-ee, rich and gooey inside.

Golden, flaky, tender cakey outside.

Wrap the inside in the outside - Is it good? Darn Tootin'!

Do the big Fig Newton.

Oh you can't do the Newton if a Newton it's not.

But if it's by Nabisco a Fig Newton's what you've got.

Do the big FIG NEWTON (here's the tricky part), the big FIG NEWTON (ONE MORE TIME!), the BIG FIG NEWTONNNNN!"

BTW, I recall the "Big Fig Newton" icon appeared in only one other commercial.Richiestern 05:13, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for sharing this... I've been searching for it and it's not listed on the lyrics websites. Who knew I'd find lyrics on Wikipedia? Bob the WikipediaN ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:37, 13 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Why is there a link to Jaffa Cake on the page? I can't really see the connection (apart from both being fruit-flavoured not-quite-biscuits). Paul E Nolan 16:08, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed - removed! Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 06:47, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently someone decided it was "fruited cake" rather than "fruit and cake" and stuck that in the article. Yeah. Okay. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.187.234.103 (talk) 17:19, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've never heard of pizza flavored Newtons. Was that added as a joke? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.215.220.94 (talk) 18:35, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Since the substance of the general stub article Fig bar is contained in the intro sentence to this article, I changed the stub page to a redirect to Fig Newton. It couldn't hurt to expand the more general discussion of fig rolls in this article as it is expanded. The stub was just a one-sentence article. Geoff (talk) 17:57, 4 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If Fig Newton is a brand name, why not call it a fig roll? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.226.1.234 (talk) 15:54, 7 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're right; the page should be moved.Mnealon (talk) 03:16, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed - recreated a new fig roll article. This article is too American centric, but the Fig newton is an iconic American brand. So I went back further in history to create background as opposed to something so American centric - Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 06:44, 15 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why is there no mention on the page of the change in appearance and taste of the Fig Newton? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.89.194.227 (talk) 16:09, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Someone created a fake citation about the history of Fig Newtons for the purpose of vandalism. Please fix this as soon as possible. (I have deleted the section.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.254.224.22 (talk) 00:59, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmed. The work cited, "Never at Rest: A Biography of Issac Newton" does not contain a single instance of the word "fig" according to Google Books (link) -Verdatum (talk) 17:32, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have heard of several of these logical sounding flavors, such as strawberry and raspberry, but does Nabisco seriously ave a cookie called the Issac Newton? I think it is a joke, but someone else may be able to verify accuracy. 65.167.146.130 (talk) 17:13, 17 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

User:Dhaushalter added the fragment below to the History section. It could be true and notable, but asking the reader to contact a postal address is not really article-ready material. Ale And Quail (talk) 19:33, 17 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Charles Roser first invented the Fig Newton at the Roser-Runkel Company in Kenton, Ohio Please contact the Hardin County Historical Museum at 223 N. Main St, Kenton, Ohio 43326 for verification.

This article states: "American advertisements have most frequently featured a narrator with a British accent and other European themes, presenting the pastry as an elegant, sophisticated "adult" sweet that would appeal to the upper classes, rather than as a kiddie lunchbox snack. In the 1980s, Nabisco again produced the popular advertising slogan "A cookie is just a cookie, but a Newton is fruit and cake." I think most people viewed these affectations in Fig Newton commercials as being for comedic effect rather than seriously trying to portray Fig Newtons as some sort of status symbol - at the very least (in addition to be just plain wrong), this paragraph is original research, supposedly a Wiki no-no (albeit a common characteristic of most Wiki articles which, how should I put it, are fact challenged). Jmdeur (talk) 20:42, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This article should be renamed. They are now known as "Newtons". MyKingdom200 (talk) 23:35, 1 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The origin of the name is discussed in The Big Bang Theory. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:69:CE47:5E00:226:BBFF:FE17:86D5 (talk) 08:07, 3 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how to move it back to "Newtons (cookie)", but that's what it should be. Please move it back. All the linked sources say it's a cookie. The company's Facebook page is "Nabisco Cookies" and lists Newtons as a variety. Therefore, it's a cookie. So move it back.

The "not a cookie" part of the article was there for over 3 months. Allegedly, there are also commercials saying explicitly that they're not cookies. barakokula31 (talk) 00:10, 2 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Allegedly", so then we need proof. Innocent until proven guilty, so it's a cookie until someone can prove it's not. --Meve Stills (talk) 19:42, 30 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The page has now been moved back. I don't really care much about the article title. However, I will point out that the part about them not being a cookie was there in the article for over three months and no one complained or changed it, so saying that the move was "undiscussed" is somewhat misleading. Though to be fair, the claim was unreferenced, so I guess it could have just been removed (which, as it stands, is effectively what was done), and few people if any would have objected. ~barakokula31 (talk) 14:47, 31 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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I just noticed this in passing. This source agrees with the article, crediting Charles Roser. This source disagrees, crediting Florida inventor James Henry Mitchell. I don't have any idea myself, but thought I would mention it here. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 00:10, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This article is still on my watchlist after the edit 11 days ago in the section above, and that caused this edit re a related issue to show up there. That edit involves changes to the article which put the lie to the article's name disambiguation, so I thought I would flag that by mentioning it here. I had forgotten about my earlier edit here and the sources it mentions, and had looked at this additional source before coming here to post a comment and finding that prior edit. I imagine that there are other sources out there about this, but I have not taken the time to try to sort this out. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 00:52, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

In the 1985 movie "American Flyers," Becky says, "Well I'll be a Fig Newton!" EvolutionOfTruth (talk) 21:43, 27 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]