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To reflect reality cited in links embedded in page itself,
I propose that the name of this page be changed to either "Rosogolla" or "Roshogolla", since the desert was created, in Bengal, is it popularly called Rosogolla. In reality. Not by some "stretch of the imagination" by propagandists.
I have Requested the page move on 14 August 2015 Rasgulla → Rosogolla and prior to that and to this move request I have also given verifiable reasons in support of my submission said including others, the entire edit history of this page and other relevant pages created by this editor reflect/support in favour of above statements and now this editor hopes those declining administrators concerned now probably understand how prejudiced they were rejecting this editor's all relevant edits improperly, for the reason the GI Authorities now rule Rosogolla originated in West Bengal rejecting Odisha claim over its origin. Refer Rosogolla originated in West Bengal, rule GI authorities, rejecting Odisha claim
Rasgulla → Rosogolla – Editor Snthakur has requested that this page be moved to Rosogolla stating, 'Rosogolla is the formal, original, familiar and most common name of this dessert.'
Still impugned, it was very much relevant where Rosogolla originated and also it's most common name is Rosogolla and not Rasgulla (established if the desert's popularity is statistically considered, and not decided by the authority). The concluding part of the move request reads, 'Rosogolla is the formal, original, familiar and most common name of this dessert.'
So that the feature name Rasgulla improperly accepted and established as final name, instead of this editor's endeavour to rename the desert's original name Rosogolla, the entire biased edits of the current feature content Rasgulla too has been accepted and upheld by those prejudiced administrators rejecting this editor's creation of new feature named Rosogolla or his endeavour in renaming the page RasgullaasRosogolla. A through study of the edit history of the feature Rasgulla, and also the feature Rosogolla, would reflect what is true and correct statements or what is impugned.
The Wikipedia appears to run by its guidelines and rules, and obviously not by the authority of those authoritative administrators relevant. Such an authoritative rule neither healthy for Wikipedia nor likely to work in the long run, this is something that can be compared with religious belief and scientific acceptance, the editor endeavoured scientific throughout his entire endeavours in this context.
@Snthakur: who are the "authoritative administrators relevant"? And yes, we have our own guidelines and rules. And no, you are wrong about the GI which is only for "Banglar Rasogolla", see below. Doug Wellertalk14:44, 14 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Applicant Name
West Bengal State Food Processing and Horticulture Development corporation Limited
Applicant Address
2nd floor Mayukh Bhavan, DF Block Sector-I,Salt Lake, Kolkata 700 0091 Facilitated by Patent Information Centre, Government of West Bengal, Kolkata, West Bengal, India, 700091
From the West Bengal government, which applied for the GI status: "There is no conflict with Odisha. What we want is to protect the identity of our Rasogolla. Their product is different from ours both in colour, texture, taste, juice content and method of manufacturing." utcursch | talk15:52, 14 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 16 November 2017
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Under Sections Variations,
Please change caption Rasgullas to Rosogollas where there is bengali reference. specifically first and sixth image. Ansuman28 (talk) 20:50, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Note: In the article I saw the first reference given to Bengali under the section 'names' is Roshogolla and you now say Rosogollas (please note the difference). This articles from history page and this talk seems to be controversial on these names. Please don't make new request again until you can provide 3 or more reliable sources that support the name you want be used —Ammarpad (talk) 11:29, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Please change Rasgulla to 'Rosogolla' under the section "Variations" and wherever relevant.
@Ansuman28 is very correct in his representation and identifying 'Rosogollas' under the section "Variations" in the article.
That the 'Rosogollas' should not be identified or called Rasgullas, rather it should be given proper name as per the reflexion in the GI status of "Banglar Rasogolla" as it is not Rasgulla. Besides the reasons, the "Banglar Rasogolla" commonly known as, and called Rosogolla, Rossogolla or Roshogolla, is different in colour, texture, taste, juice content and manufacturing process than the same of Rasgulla in whatever form. (The Bengalis tend to pronounce the dental sa as palatal sha and the sound aaso)[1].
In the entire proceedings before the Intellectual Property India [2] there is not a single mentioning of Rasgulla but Rosogolla and Rossogolla, legally establishing Banglar Rasogolla different than Rasgulla as we know it. Besides that, the names Banglar Rasogolla, Rosogolla, Rossogolla or Roshogolla are from Bengali[3] origin, while Rasgulla is from Hindi[4] origin, as such intellectual property right awarded to Banglar Rasogolla protects it from misrepresentation by Pahala rasgulla, Khiramohana or any such desserts under the name Rasgulla. Banglar Rasogolla, also called Rosogolla, Rossogolla and Roshogolla, is very different than the dessert Rasgulla as a whole in colour, texture, taste, juice content and manufacturing process.
Therefore, Rosogollas must be identified and represented as Rosogollas and not as Rasgulla.
The remarks of rejection, "none of this is convincing" is questionable, requires competent and impartial intervention.
Present content of the Wikipedia article Rasgulla does not commensurate to an encyclopedic nature; instead of so long endeavours by many editors and administrators, said article more looks like a text fighting, so what went wrong with it?
Not done: Seeing that this edit request is part and parcel of a larger move by a single editor to place the same template across a wide range of pages, is something which does not inspire confidence in approving this edit request. I may be paranoid, but looking at the talk page here and the back and forth over the name of a dessert, makes me believe I may not be. My guess is, if this template is going to be added, it will only come after a long, long, discussion. .spintendo⋅⋅)12:53, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
But the category- geographical indications of West Bengal is very needed. After a long long debate, West Bengal won the GI tag. So the Category is very needed. বাক্যবাগীশ (talk) 17:45, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@RegentsPark: As the article says, "the GI Registry clarified that the tag was only for "Banglar Rasogolla", and should not be seen as a decision on the sweet's origin" - in other words, it was for a variant. Doug Wellertalk18:37, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
GI certificate is nothing but the proved report of any thing, like any industrial thing. GI of Rasagolla proved that the origin of Rasagolla is in West Bengal. And lastly, the Category Category: Geographical Indications in West Bengal is made in wikipedia to listed the GI registred article of West Bengal. So, plese, it is my earnest request. Plese add the Category.বাক্যবাগীশ (talk) 22:00, 14 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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In places like Bangladesh and West Bengal it is called 'Rasogolla' and In North India it is called Rasgulla. Please rename the article name User:Mahtab132
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Rasgulla is not a natively used word in the Indian states of Odisha or West Bengal. The primary name should be changed to Rosogolla. We shouldn't corrupt the information. Arnab.dc (talk) 05:19, 7 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
As this dish can be found also in pakistan as a popular dessert called "rasgulla", would it be logical to add it to the alternative name list in this article? Bhangsta (talk) 05:16, 3 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
No, it will not be right to add it to the alternative list because Rasgulla is known by this name in many countries like India, Pakistan is a separate place. Mahtab132 (talk) 05:11, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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'According to food historians K. T. Achaya and Chitra Banerji, there are no references to cheese (including chhena) in India before the 17th century. The milk-based sweets were mainly made up of khoa, before the Portuguese influence led to introduction of cheese-based sweets. Therefore, the possibility of a cheese-based dish being offered at Jagannath Temple in the 12th century is highly unlikely.[32]'
The specific text from the cited work has not been mentioned but K.T Achaya himself in his book, Indian Food: A Historical Companion mentions a cheese/chhenna based dessert very similar to bengali sweets preparation in manasollasa written by 12th century south Indian chalukiyan king someshwara.
For the making of what is today called chhana, Manasollasa, the 12th century Sanskrit text recommends the addition of a sour substance (even sour curds from a previous operation) to boiled milk, after which the precipitate was separated, the cheese then mixed with rice flour and shaped into various balls, and then deep-fried to make sweets.Zombie gunner (talk) 17:25, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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1.Rich in Antioxidants: Saffron, a prized spice, has potent antioxidant properties. These antioxidants help fight free radicals in the body, reduce oxidative stress, and promote overall health.Mahtab132 (talk) 05:32, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Change "However, Michael Krondl argues that Hindu dietary rules vary from region to region, and it is possible that this restriction did not exist in present-day Odisha. But at the same time, he could not give any substantial information to uphold the claim that he was forwarding"
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"However, Michael Krondl points out that Hindu dietary rules vary from region to region, and it is entirely possible that this restriction did not exist in present-day Odisha."
The source says the same and the other preceding statement is completely personal statement.
Thanks! 2409:40E4:60:A4AF:560:F050:54F:F719 (talk) 04:06, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]