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If prices are typical, why quote a price? That sentence reads like a travel brochure. Kingturtle 03:09, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Been to CBW often, never noticed Dave & Andy's ice cream. Oh, well. Strathmeyer 07:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Page listed on vfd Feb 23 to Mar 2 2004, consensus to keep. Discussion:

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• The Church Brew Works - I share the "Wikipedia is not paper" position, yet I don't think Wikipedia should comprise the yellow pages.DrZ 02:22, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)
  • It's a fairly unique bar. Keep. Anthony DiPierro 02:31, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)
  • I agree, it's fairly unique, but the article needs to do a better job at telling that to the world. I don't know enough about it to do it myself. Right now, it is an ad. Lacking improvement... Delete. Brian Rock 02:36, 2004 Feb 25 (UTC)
  • Keep if it can be made to not sound like an ad. Everyking 03:41, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)
  • Love the place.. it SHOULD have an entry, unsure of what to add to it to make it not an ad. Will atempt to help on Friday. Lyellin 04:28, Feb 25, 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Optim 04:55, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep -- Graham  :) 07:38, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep, but stop using the phrase "fairly unique". - DropDeadGorgias 15:32, Feb 25, 2004 (UTC)
    • But it is a rather unique bar. Anthony DiPierro 18:08, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)
      • About 85% unique, I'd say. Maybe a little less. Onebyone 21:41, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)
      • His point is that there's no such thing as "fairly unique". Something is either unique or it isn't. There's no middle ground on that. Bearcat 05:00, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)
        • You math guys...Not everything is a number, you know... Unique can mean unusual or extraordinary. There's plenty of room for middle ground on that. Anthony DiPierro 23:58, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Hee, hee, hee, ok, I tried to strike through "fairly" in my quote, but it doesn't show up too well. Seriously though, if this entry is to be of any value, it should include some meat. The original church had a history. From what I remember about the neighborhood, it looks like it had a history. It's a beautiful building inside and out, can somebody go inside and snap a picture or two? I know someone who writes about breweries in the Upper Midwest, and I know she's familiar with this place (and the Wikipedia, too). Maybe I can get something worth reading from her. I'll take a shot, but I'm not near Pittsburgh, so I can't do any local work. Maybe somebody can talk to the owner. People want to keep this, so let's make it work. Brian Rock 22:53, 2004 Feb 25 (UTC)
      • Answering my own questions, it looks like the link to the external web site has what I feel is needed to do a good article. It's now on my (mental) list of things to get around to. But we seem to be having a revert war over this entry - not good. Brian Rock 23:13, 2004 Feb 25 (UTC)
        • Looking at the history, I don't see a single revert. Anthony DiPierro 23:58, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)
        • Hmm, poor choice of words on my part. Edit war. People keep removing stuff, and you keep putting it back. Brian Rock 00:23, 2004 Feb 26 (UTC)
        • There's no war. They brought up concerns, and I addressed them. Anthony DiPierro 00:49, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)
        • I reread them and I see your point. Sorry. Brian Rock 02:46, 2004 Feb 26 (UTC)
  • Hehe, I see some are quite fond of this place. Where did the drink 'til you drop link go, by the way? :-) DrZ
  • Keep. An intriguing repurposing of a historic building. I can't help but like the Latin inscription on the ceiling, too. Smerdis of Tlön 03:48, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)
  • There are quite a few churches turned into drinking establishments round here, many are turned into flats as well. This comes from Britain being much more secular than the USA. Would you like an article on them all? Secretlondon 19:34, Feb 27, 2004 (UTC)
    • Sure, would you mind writing them for me? Anthony DiPierro 19:36, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. I tried to help this article. But it reads like a tourist brochure. Kingturtle 01:55, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

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What exactly is the purpose of listing the prices of items if the prices are not unusual? Kingturtle 07:04, 28 Feb 2004 (UTC)

• To show that they are not unusual. Also for those who don't know what "usual" prices are in Pennsylvania. Anthony DiPierro 15:29, 28 Feb 2004 (UTC)
  • Wikipedia is not a menu. We don't list prices unless it furthers the story. Kingturtle 20:23, 28 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • Like I explained, it does futher the story. And it's not a menu, it's the price of a single item, to show typical prices. Anthony DiPierro 22:02, 28 Feb 2004 (UTC)
  • Please don't start adding other useless information. Kingturtle 22:04, 28 Feb 2004 (UTC)
    • I didn't add any useless information. Anthony DiPierro 22:11, 28 Feb 2004 (UTC)
  • And I appreciate it :) Kingturtle 22:13, 28 Feb 2004 (UTC)
  • Are you going to update the prices everytime they change? Secretlondon 18:32, Mar 1, 2004 (UTC)
    • Yes. Anthony DiPierro 18:35, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)
      • How will we know if you don't? Jwrosenzweig 18:37, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)
        • If it doesn't get updated, then I didn't. Anthony DiPierro 18:39, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)
  • I agree with the others: having a price here is a bad idea. Wikitravel might be interested, but an encyclopedia shouldn't be. We're interested in what a place is, not whether or not it's a "good deal". That's certain to create edit wars.Jwrosenzweig 18:37, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)
    • Whether prices are typical is part of what a place is. As for terms such as "good deal," I agree. Anthony DiPierro 18:39, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

We have prices on the LindowsOS page. Should we remove that, too? Anthony DiPierro 18:40, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Yes, we should. I just did. Jwrosenzweig 18:50, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)