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1 Recent-ish discussions and actions (2015)  





2 Capitalization (and disambiguation) of breeds and cultivars  



2.1  Capitalization pro and con  





2.2  Some previous discussions of breed capitalization  





2.3  External sources on breeds and capitalization  





2.4  Natural disambiguation pro and con  





2.5  Some previous discussions of breed disambiguation  





2.6  Some previous discussions on breed names and WP:USEENGLISH  





2.7  Some previous discussions of merging, deleting, or properly naming "pseudo-breeds"  







3 Capitalization of common names of species  an eight-year, site-wide dispute  



3.1  BIRDCON  the RfC that brought it to a close  





3.2  Post-RfC cleanup  





3.3  Prior state of policies and guidelines (up to April 2014)  





3.4  Manual of Style  relevant major changes  





3.5  2014 discussions on species capitalization  





3.6  Previous Wikipedia-wide discussions  





3.7  WP:Arbitration Committee cases  





3.8  Wikiproject discussions, proposals, and essays  



3.8.1  WP:WikiProject Tree of Life  





3.8.2  WP:WikiProject Animals  





3.8.3  WP:WikiProject Plants  





3.8.4  WP:WikiProject Mammals  





3.8.5  WP:WikiProject Amphibians and Reptiles  





3.8.6  WP:WikiProject Birds  



3.8.6.1  2015  





3.8.6.2  2014  





3.8.6.3  20122013  





3.8.6.4  2011 and earlier  







3.8.7  WP:WikiProject Cephalopods  





3.8.8  WP:WikiProject Cetaceans  





3.8.9  WP:WikiProject Fishes  





3.8.10  WP:WikiProject Monotremes and Marsupials  





3.8.11  WP:WikiProject Primates  





3.8.12  WP:WikiProject Rodents  







3.9  Article- and user-level discussions of note  





3.10  External sources on species  





3.11  Advocacy of IOC or some other PoV-pushing "standard"  





3.12  Possible alternative solution to lower-casing  





3.13  Unexamined discussions (may need link-fixing because of archival)  







4 Other organism-related titling issues  



4.1  Scientific versus vernacular names  







5 Naming-unrelated  





6 See also  



6.1  Relevant policies and guidelines  





6.2  Relevant essays  
















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< User:SMcCandlish

This is a not-yet-complete Wikipedia discussion history of the lower- vs. upper-casing of vernacular names of organisms, and how to disambiguate them. Data goes back to 2003, though I started this log in late 2014 (based on an external text file I was maintaining since at least 2012). Since early 2015, the focus has shifted from speciestobreeds; the breed material has been moved higher up toward the top.

Overview: The bare fact of the matter is that a lot of people just habitually capitalize things that are important to them, while others, from all walks of wiki-life, feel that this is jarring and distracting to the average reader, and may even be seen as puerile and questionably literate (because the rationale for it isn't known to anyone but specialists in particular subdisciplines – such attempt to come of as "hyper-academic" actually backfire badly in a general encyclopedia). This is an entirely non-trivial usability and public relations issue for Wikipedia. That said, there are actually some at least fairly strong arguments in favor of the capitalization of the names of formal breeds (and cultivars) that are not arguments that pertain to species. A different but related issue is the penchant for fanciers of particular types of animals to resist natural disambiguation and insist on parenthetic style, policy be damned. Finally, even species capitalization – in a handful of narrow specialities – has the pro argument for it that WP should do what the specialist sources do in any particular topic area. But as one editor summarized it, Wikipedia has to decide to whom it will look a bit ignorant: A small number of academics, or a very large number of everyone else. The answer is clear, especially when major academic journals will not permit the over-capitalization preferred by specialists in a couple of fields, even in articles about those fields. The breeds case is essentially the opposite; real breeds with published breed standards (not just diffuse landraces and breed "types") are much more broadly treated as proper names, although there are conflicting lower/upper-case patterns in various newspapers and dictionaries (and some style guides are even self-contradictory on the question).

The current (as of 2022) consensus, in a nutshell: MOS:LIFE codified what the community has arrived at after all these years of debate:

Recent-ish discussions and actions (2015–)[edit]

Capitalization (and disambiguation) of breeds and cultivars[edit]

The issues outlined below were largely resolved in January 2019 at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 150#RfC on capitalization of the names of standardized breeds, with resultant changes made to MOS:LIFE to call for the capitalization of standardized breeds and cultivars (but not breed groups/types, landraces, crossbreeds, hybrids, color variants within breeds, etc.).

The concerns raised on both sides of the "capitalization divide" are not all identical, for standardized breed and cultivar names, to those of species. The current WP:FAITACCOMPLI situation is that all of the breed article names (and many on landraces, which should definitely not be capitalized) have been capitalized by those who favor upper case. I've even helped make this consistent, because it's better to have 100% of them capitalized, for reader-experience consistency, than something like 93.2% of them capitalized, and because most of them had already been capitalized since before 2010. SMcCandlish note: I've remained essentially neutral on this matter (more like wavering back and forth as new rationales appear; see below) for over a decade on Wikipedia now, though I've used WP:RM to move some uncapitalized ones to capitalization to be WP:CONSISTENT, without really taking a stand on whether they really should have mostly been capitalized to begin with; I just observed that they mostly were.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  15:44, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

The debates (there are many more pages not added to the list below yet) about this style matter actually raise some different issues than those about capitalization of vernacular ("common") names of species, and need to be tracked and examined separately. Capitalization of common names of species is a peculiarity of some specialist publications in ornithology, certain narrow branches of entomology, and (apparently) some regional botany, but rejected outside those fields both in biological (zoological, botanical) specialist publications and in general-audience writing.

By contrast, capitalization of all of the following is near-universal in the respective specialist literature (except perhaps for lab strains):

  1. standardized breeds (not landraces, breed groups, or other informal domesticated animal classifications) of: as recognized by fancier and agricultural organizations. Thus, Golden Retriever but not retriever generally.
  2. Human-cultivated plant varieties – cultivars (including cultivated hybrids, and greges) – with formal, standardized names (e.g. the Granny Smith apple but not crab apples, a general categorization, and again, not landraces or other non-standardized cultigens)

This increased frequency of capitalization of breeds/cultivars in topical reliable sources may make the argument for capitalization in Wikipedia stronger, though by no means a settled matter yet, especially given that more mainstream, generalist publications (e.g. newspapers, other encyclopedias, dictionaries, non-specialist magazines and books) often do not capitalize them except where they contain a proper name. That said, general publications do capitalize them more frequently than they capitalize vernacular names of species (which is nearly never).

Capitalization pro and con[edit]

Some of the arguments against capitalizing species apply equally well to any standardized breeds and cultivars, except when it is a registered trademark or otherwise qualifies as a proper noun. But some of them do not, and there are additional arguments that pertain to domestic animal breeds (and plant cultivars, sometimes differently) that do not pertain to species' vernacular names.

In particular, the wide support for capitalization of the names of standardized botanical varieties, cultivars and hybrids in mainstream style guides, and increasing frequency in mainstream publications, could indicate that WP should consider capitalizing formal animal breeds, since the difference is just a matter of biological regnum. Most of them will be capitalized anyway because they're based on proper names (no one is going to write siamese), or often have names that are German, a language that always capitalizes nouns.

Capitalization of breeds, cultivars and varieties is subject sometimes to external conventions. How much WP wants to honor them really depends on how much they conflict with average, non-specialist readers' expectations. The existence of would-be standards outside WP is no guarantee of, or necessarily even a good argument for, Wikipedia adopting them, especially when there are competing variants.

Wikipedia policies and guidelines:

Arguments for capitalization of English-language names of breeds and cultivars (under construction and open to further input):

Arguments against capitalization of English-language names of breeds and cultivars (under construction and open to further input):

Neutral observations about capitalization of English-language names of breeds and cultivars (under construction and open to further input):

Some previous discussions of breed capitalization[edit]

External sources on breeds and capitalization[edit]


Natural disambiguation pro and con[edit]

Wikipedia policies and guidelines

Arguments for natural disambiguation (under construction and open to further input)

Arguments against natural disambiguation (under construction and open to further input)

Neutral observations about capitalization of English-language names of breeds and cultivars (under construction and open to further input)

Montanabw summed up the issue pretty well in January 2015, on distinguishing between Mustang horses and other things named "Mustang": "We have a[n article about the] Shetland pony, which within the pony world is commonly called a "Shetland", likewise, within the horse world, we have "Mustangs" "Arabians" "Hanoverians" and so on. Outside of the horse world, any rational person will clarify an "Arabian horse" or a "Hanoverian horse" so as to be clear where we are talking about a horse or not." [67]

Some previous discussions of breed disambiguation[edit]

Some previous discussions on breed names and WP:USEENGLISH[edit]

Some previous discussions of merging, deleting, or properly naming "pseudo-breeds"[edit]

We've long had a problem with editors (many of whom really know better) intentionally conflating breeds, crossbreeds, hybrids, coat-color varieties, feral populations, and numerous other things all under the magical word "breed", as redefined by them on-the-fly to basically mean "anything I want to be a breed is a breed". This seem to be a mixture of promotionalism, an excuse to over-capitalize, fancruft, ignorance of WP:NotabilityorWP:No original research, and PoV-pushing (e.g. against or in favor of particular breeder organizations and their terms).



Capitalization of common names of species – an eight-year, site-wide dispute[edit]

BIRDCON – the RfC that brought it to a close[edit]

Post-RfC cleanup[edit]

Even as late as 2016, there are still, throughout Wikipedia, frequent cases of capitalization of the common names of species, including mammals.

Prior state of policies and guidelines (up to April 2014)[edit]

Manual of Style – relevant major changes[edit]

2014 discussions on species capitalization[edit]

Previous Wikipedia-wide discussions[edit]

WP:Arbitration Committee cases[edit]

Wikiproject discussions, proposals, and essays[edit]

WP:WikiProject Tree of Life[edit]

WP:WikiProject Animals[edit]

WP:WikiProject Plants[edit]

WP:WikiProject Mammals[edit]

WP:WikiProject Amphibians and Reptiles[edit]

WP:WikiProject Birds[edit]

2015[edit]
2014[edit]

This was a really busy year

  • Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds/Archive 67#Revisions and WP:BIRDCON 8 August 2014 – same anon as above attacks someone trying to comply with WP:BIRDCON as "destroy[ing] the work of others", and vents about "Cap Warriors".
  • Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds/Archive 67#WP Birds template as seen on talk pages 13 August 2014 – project member proposes WP:POINTy campaign to post protest messages on all the bird article talk pages. Another project participant wisely says "Let's not flog a dead horse."
  • Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds/Archive 67#Revisions and WP:BIRDCON October 2014 – Very interesting discussion, entirely among the bird regulars. Clearly indicates that several of them don't see it as a big deal, e.g. 'It's not really a matter of one way or other being "correct" (though we birders are certainly more used to uppercase names and the MOS boffins are more used to lowercase), it's just a matter of style. ... But we can all certainly adapt to whichever style is "acceptable" to the community.', with repeated calls to sticking to content creation instead of creating more strife. There is general agreement to try to reverse WP:BIRDCON at some point, amid some WP:GREATWRONGS-style ranting, that makes the same invalid arguments that have been refuted again and again whenever the issue comes up. The weirdest thing is this error: "Elsewhere [i.e., not style matters] in Wikipedia primary sources are the best choices for citations." That's not true at all, as even a cursory read of WP:RS makes clear. WP relies primarily on secondary sources, only permits "with caution" use of primary sources for certain kinds of things.
  • Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds/Archive 67#English name vs. Scientific name July 2014 – Some participants in that project still seem unclear that WP:COMMONNAME is a policy, not optional, and think that IOC's bird list is some Wikipedia standard to follow. Others point out that IOC's list isn't even as current as some others, and another suggests, about the specific cases at issue, that they scientific names are in fact the most common, so should be the names of the articles (which was the status quo with them; as of June 2015 one of the two is at the binomial, the other at the not-actually-common vernacular name.
  • WT:BIRDS and its archives newer than 61 have not been fully examined yet; some of the discussions listed immediately below may have already been archived.
  • Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds/Archive_67#Revisions and WP:BIRDCON 17 February 2014 – WP:BIRDS regulars confirm they're still active, despite some people quitting over the capitalization debate. Someone does not resist temptation to name-call those who disagreed with them "bullies", though a look through what is collected here so far indicates that the real browbeating has been coming, year after year, from this wikiproject, not from outside it.
  • Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds/Archive 66#Bird article name (capitalisation) March 2014 – Long series of discussions about the WP:RMatTalk:Crowned crane, that lead to a WP:MR, and eventually to the WP:BIRDCON RfC. Some valid procedural points were raised about the original RM, but these don't invalidate the later RfC. How we got to having an RfC (a long-running and very detailed one, with a very precise, well-reasoned close) is irrelevant. A consensus discussion can get started for any reason at all.
  • Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds/Archive 66#Bird common name decapitalisation May 2014 – Actual work to implement the changes approved at WP:BIRDCON demonstrated that, despite all the hair-pulling about capitalization of bird names being "correct", the WP:BIRDS project was not consistently applying the capitalization they were fighting so hard for. Even at a well-developed article like Red-tailed hawk, all of the following appeared in the middles of various sentences: Red-tailed Hawk, Red-Tailed Hawk, Red Tailed Hawk, red-tailed hawk, Red Tail Hawk, Red-tail, red-tail, Red-tailed, redtail. Among other errors and inconsistencies. So much for the fantasy story of evil-bad MOS style warriors destroying a great tradition of WP:BIRDS editors following a style rule that only idiots would defy. What WP:BIRDCON has actually done is actually result in normalization to something consistent, at all, of any kind, where before was random chaos.
  • Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds/Archive 66#IAR May 2014 – A bird editor says they simply will not comply with WP:BIRDCON. Someone else cites WP:POINT, etc., at them. WP:IAR actually allows you to write as you will, if complying with some nit-pick style rule interferes with your ability to get on with creating content. But IAR doesn't allow you to revert other people complying with MOS. Civil and productive discussion, actually, until someone hiding behind an IP address trips over Godwin's law and calls MOS editors "Grammer Nazis" (yes, they actually misspelled "grammar"), and says "Time to take the Bird Pages to a separate WIKI" (yes, they actually capitalized like that). Also, a self-contradictory view is given that it's wrong to have singled out birds and not also change style for some other categories, yet they must get on the warpath and make sure "MOS fanatics" can "impose their little power trips elsewhere on WP". Who's being fanatical again?
  • Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds/Archive 66#I'm out July 2014 – A bird editor says he's quitting over the decapitalization, and like so many other participants in this project before (for several years now) is sure that they all really need to jump ship to a better, bird-specific wiki because Wikipedia is a lost cause. That's a general condemnation of the project, not a disagreement over a style matter. This thread includes lots more false-accusation attacks from various parties (all against MOS editors): "Fundamental dogma", "jackboots approach" (see Godwin's law again), "harrassment of content editors", etc. The "resigned" editor actually still comes back regularly (as of June 2015) as an IP, just to post more personal attacks, which is just WP:TROLLing, an abuse of WP talk pages. Worst of all, someone posts a crazy conspiracy theory, that MOS editors (characterized as "some of the most zealous style-over-substance supporters" of course) "may well be long-term detractors of Wikipedia whose main aim is perhaps to destroy the long-term editor-base." Same editor also blatantly lies: "some of the main detractors [of the capitalization] are opposed to the fact that specialists contribute to Wikipedia."; and then continues with a second conspiracy theory about a "brigade" against "substantial authors" on some other trivial style point that some wikiproject wants to edit-war about. The sick thing is that the poster of all this wacky-attacky nonsense is an admin.
  • Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds/Archive 66#Southern boobook (Ninox boobook) June–July 2014 – Yet again, someone from this wikiproject says "We take the IOC world list as our standard." Well, Wikipedia takes WP:COMMONNAME policy as its standard. The names coincide anyway about 99.5% of the time, but that's not the point. This "we, the sovereign nation of WP:BIRDS, declare our own standard and ignore Wikipedia policy" nonsense has to stop.
  • Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds/Archive 66#So long, and thanks for all the fish (May–July 2014) – Someone who had already left Wikipedia about a year earlier heard about WP:BIRDCON and came back to announce (more civilly that the one above) some kind of re-resignation over the matter, but thought that the result was inevitable anyway. Despite being frequently held up by capitalizers as someone "driven off" the project by "style warriors", this editor a) had other reasons for leaving already, and b) has actually returned as of May 2015, anyway. The third in the Triumvirate Who Quit also resigns in this same thread, without any particular drama. Has sporadically returned, e.g. in October 2014 and February 2015. An unintentionally funny reference is made to tall poppy syndrome, as in "we're being cut down because others are jealous of our superior work", when it often has a very different meaning, relating to negative public reaction to "the affront committed by anyone who starts to put on superior airs". Best comment ever, after someone attacks people for making the changes (after earlier attacking them for not being willing to do the work to make the changes): "I don't care about capitalisation at all actually, I'm merely saving others from burning out on such a massive task. Do keep casting aspersions though." Exactly. It's not about writing content, or getting facts right, it's just about lashing out self-contradictorily at random because they didn't end up WP:WINNING a very WP:LAME fight they spent 8 or so years over-investing energy in. No wonder a few of them feel they need extended wikibreaks. Oh, and the same thread makes the false claim that a fourth editor quit, but he didn't; continued posting in that very thread, and has been active well into mid-2015.
  • Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds/Archive 66#Consensus July 2014 – Someone canvasses WP:BIRDS to come to ANI and complain about SMcCandlish personally, on totally unrelated issues. And of course a bunch of them did.
  • Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds/Archive 66#Bird names in lower case May–August 2014 – Well-reasoned comments by the WP:BIRDCON closing admin, and others, are met with the same scapegoating and personal attacks as usual, this time commingling entirely unrelated matters (me personally moving some articles without discussion that turned out to be controversial moves, vs. the community deciding in a very long RfC to not capitalize species names). It's completely irrational.
  • Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds#Locked Pages V (2nd req) (diff) 2012-02 (regular editor of articles on Australian birds disagrees with imposition of IOC bird names, suggesting a lack of consensus on the issue; discussion continued at User talk:Bidgee#IOC Bird names)
  • Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds/Archive 65#Capitalisation issues again 2 March 2014 – Revert-warring to force upper case, and insistence that their WP:PROJPAGEatWP:BIRDS#Naming is a "guideline".
  • Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds/Archive 65##Move discussion about bird species name (capitalization, hyphenation) 12 March 2014 – Notification of the WP:RM discussion at Talk:Crowned crane. This is the turning point. The "we know better than you rubes" attitude the WP:BIRDS people brought to this RM and the WP:MR that followed it, and so on, contributed strongly to the community rejecting their arguments and concluding to downcase bird species common names two months later in WP:BIRDCON.
  • Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds/Archive 65#Question on common name capitalization April 2014 – insisting on capitalizing non-IOC names undermines WP:BIRDS' basis/excuse for the IOC capitalization, which is that "IOC is a special and different case"; this argument was ignored. A month later they all got lower-cased. Interesting. It was not the main deciding factor, but it sure didn't help. Lesson: Do not ignore the logic in an argument because you've had previous disagreements with, or just don't like, the person making it.
2012–2013[edit]

Another very busy period. Hint: When this many editors dispute a "rule" this much, it does not have consensus.

2011 and earlier[edit]

WP:WikiProject Cephalopods[edit]

WP:WikiProject Cetaceans[edit]

WP:WikiProject Fishes[edit]

WP:WikiProject Monotremes and Marsupials[edit]

WP:WikiProject Primates[edit]

WP:WikiProject Rodents[edit]

Article- and user-level discussions of note[edit]

Only a very small percentage of these debates have been identified and listed here yet. Some may have moved to talk archive pages.

External sources on species[edit]

Nomeclature codes, standards, and sciences-wide guidelines

N-grams Care must be taken to eliminate as much as possible any usages where capitalization is done for formatting reasons, e.g. in titles and in headings. The main way to do this is to search for phrases with lower-case but trivial words included: a blue jay,a Blue Jay, then the blue jay,the Blue Jay, and of blue jays,of Blue Jays. Most of the Google ngram advanced search tools are useless in this regard; e.g., the _DET_ blue jay,_DET_ Blue Jay to return assorted determiner (a/an, the, this, that, those, etc.) matches cannot distinguish case, and the blue jay _END_,Blue Jay _END_ search to only return results from ends of "sentences" interprets all titles and headings as if sentences. It must be done with specific lower-case words like "a"/"an", "the" and "of". Most trailing-word searches like blue jay nest,Blue Jay nest are not productive, or not enough to be statistically significant when they return any results at all, which is rarely. Possessives have to be excluded because the construction "the Someone's something" is rarely used, meanwhile the "a/an" and "of" cases aren't statistically significant enough by themselves.

It also must be noted that virtually all field guides capitalize all species, and many other specialist publications do as well, which strongly skews the numbers upward for capitalization (i.e., the capitalization figures would be much lower if such works could be excluded and the ngrams only run against general-audience publications). Nevertheless, most search results strongly favor lower case anyway; this unquestionably dispels any notion that capitalization of common names of species is normal outside of specialist publications.

Birds: Here are the top 10 American bird species by both frequency of sightings and largest populations, with the lists merged (they had duplicate entries), and minus "mallard", which is used in too many other contexts to be certain that the results were mostly for the duck species as such.[93]

American bird ngrams

  • "American Crow" vs "American crow": Inconsistent results, some for upper case, some for lower, but perhaps an edge to upper, probably because of the ambiguity (the American crow species vs. crows in the US or the Americas more broadly).[94][95][96]
  • "Northern Cardinal" vs. "northern cardinal": Lower case throughout the 1990s, then a sudden spike for upper case.[97][98][99]
  • "Dark-eyed Junco" vs. "dark-eyed Junco": Lower case.[100][101]
  • "Mourning Dove" vs "mourning dove": Lower case.[102][103][104]
  • "Downy Woodpecker" vs. "downy woodpecker": Lower case.[105][106][107] (some data suggests a late-1990s capitalization spike)
  • "American Goldfinch" vs. "American goldfinch": Lower case. [108][109][110] (slight increase in capitalization in the late 1990s)
  • "Blue Jay" vs. "blue jay": Lower case.[111][112][113] (Note: This result is even with probably false positives for capitalization due to the sports team.)
  • "Black-capped Chickadee" vs. "black-capped chickadee": Lower case.[114][115]
  • "House Finch" vs. "house finch": Lower case.[116][117][118] (some evidence of a capitalization spike in the early 2000s)
  • "Tufted Titmouse" vs. "tufted titmouse": Lower case.[119][120][121][122]
  • "European Starling" vs. "European starling": Lower case.[123][124][125]
  • "American Robin" vs. "American robin": Mixed usage.[126][127][128] (Note: Some capitalization hits are probably for other phrases, e.g. "an American Robin Hood", "the American Robin Tunney", etc.)
  • "Common Grackle" vs. "common grackle": Mixed usage, but more lower than upper case.[129][130][131] (Note: This data is actually strongly skewed in favor of capitalization, because mostly only birder sources, which capitalize, use the full name of this bird; general sources will mostly simply say "grackle" by itself, dropping "common". This is actually true of a lot of the "American" cases, too. The fact that usage is not strongly in favor of capitalization in these cases is very telling: Even with every field guide in publication adding to the capitalization pile and fewer-than-normal non-birder sources for balance, there's still not strong showing of capitalization.)
  • "Canada Goose" vs. "Canada goose": Lower case.[132][133][134]
  • "Red-winged Blackbird" vs. "red-winged blackbird": Lower case. [135][136][137] (This is a crucial case, since the raison d'etre of the capitalization is that supposedly names like this will be just too terribly ambiguous and confuse people into thinking it means "blackbirds of any species that happen to have red wings" unless it's capitalized. Well, the sky did not fall, and people are not capitalizing this, and that's all there is to it.
  • "Snow Goose" vs. "snow goose": Lower case.[138][139][140] (This and several others here show that when "the" is prepended, the capitalization goes up a little, because we're getting hits from more field guides and other birder works that put "the" in front of species names, e.g. "The principal diet of the Snow Goose is..." vs. more typical mainstream hit like "It looked like a snow goose".)

The British top 10 with multi-word names (i.e., excluding "starling", "magpie", "robin", etc.; these one-word common names hit too many things other than the particular species, and most of the list were like that),[141], plus more from the top-10 British winter list (to make up for so many one-word-named ones)[142] and more from another site on British garden birds[143]:

British bird ngrams

  • "House Sparrow" vs. "house sparrow": Lower case.[144][145][146]
  • "Blue Tit" vs. "blue tit": Lower case. [147][148][149][150][151][152] (But note that "blue tit" may well produce irrelevant results, e.g. for bodypainting, but this is somewhat reduced by excluding the American English corpus, since "tit" as a breast reference is a bit of an Americanism.) Lower case also goes for "Blue Titmouse" vs. "blue titmouse".[153][154]
  • "Coal Tit" vs. "coal tit": Mixed usage, but more toward lower case.[155][156][157]
  • "Collared Dove" vs. "collared dove": Lower case. [158][159][160]
  • "Long-tailed Tit" vs. "long-tailed tit": Lower case.[161][162][163] (There's a very slight recent capitalization edge for the uncommon variant "Long-tailed Titmouse" vs. "long-tailed titmouse".[164])
  • "Carrion Crow" vs. "carrion crow": Lower case.[165][166][167]
  • "Great Spotted Woodpecker" vs. "great spotted woodpecker": Mixed usage.[168][169][170]
  • "Snow Bunting" vs. "snow bunting": Lower case.[171][172][173] (Some evidence of a slight late-2000s increase in capitalization.)
  • "Jack Snipe" vs. "jack snipe": Mixed usage.[174][175][176] (Note: This may produce false pro-capitalization results because there are people named Jack Snipe. Note also that incorrect capitalization of "jack" by itself, mistaking it for a proper name, accounts for some usage.[177] And the comnpounded versions are usually lower-cased.[178][179][180]
  • "Brent Goose" vs. "brent goose": Mixed usage.[181][182][183] (Factoring in mistaken partial capitalization as "Brent goose/geese" because of an assumption that Brent is a proper name, the lower casing actually wins out.)
  • "Song Thrush" vs. "song thrush": Lower case.[184][185][186] (Some evidence of increase in capitalization, but some of increase and then decrease.)
  • "Black-headed Gull" vs. "black-headed gull": Lower case.[187][188][189]
  • "Lesser Redpoll" vs. "lesser redpoll": Mixed usage.[190][191][192] (not commonly mentioned, and capitalization is usually with "the", so most often these are field guide hits.)
  • "Marsh Tit" vs. "marsh tit": Mixed usage, but more toward lower case.[193][194][195]

Reptiles and amphibians:

Except in specialty publications like species checklists and field guides, capitalization is virtually unheard-of. Using lists of popular, high-profile species, and searching back to the 1960s to try to get more hits (hits are much less common than for birds, and most species on such lists produce no ngrams):

Herptile ngrams

  • green sea turtle[196] (An especially damning case for capitalization, since this is a classic example of a name that is supposedly to ambiguous – too easily mistaken for "a sea turtle of some kind that happens to be green" – to not be capitalized, except almost no one capitalizes it, even when the stats are skewed by field guides and other pro-capitalization specialist books!)
  • Galapagos land iguana[197][198] (no capitalized hits at all)
  • Tokay gecko[199] (no capitalized hits at all)
  • poison dart frog[200] (no capitalized hits at all)
  • eastern coral snake[201] (no capitalized hits at all)
  • eastern diamondback rattlesnake[202] (finally a few upper-case hits, but a tiny minority)
  • western diamondback rattlesnake[203] (ditto)
  • Pacific giant salamander[204] (ditto)
  • crested newt[205]
  • cane toad[206] (ditto)
  • Nile monitor[207] (ditto)
  • Indian cobra[208] (ditto)
  • saltwater crocodile[209] (ditto)
  • mugger crocodile[210] (no capitalized hits)
  • Gila monster[211] (a few more capitalized hits, but still over 2:1 against, and some of the capitalized ones are probably song titles, etc.)
  • Komodo dragon[212] (as with Gila monster; perhaps these two unusual names seem to inspire a bit more capitalization, because they sound like fairytale creatures)

Species lists

Organizations

Journals

Style and grammar guides

Encyclopedias

Grzimek's Animal Life Encyclopedia (ISBN 0787653624) uses title-case capitalization for article titles and lower case in running prose

Dictionaries

Field guides

Editorials

Advocacy of IOC or some other PoV-pushing "standard"[edit]

Possible alternative solution to lower-casing[edit]

Stale

 – This idea has not been popular so far (see talk page); small-caps is a rather disfavored style, but we're low on alternatives other than underlining.

Short version: Stop capitalizing vernacular names (except for a proper name inside a vernacular), but instead use the {{Smallcaps}} template: California slender salamander.

Extended content

Why we should bother to consider this any further:

There's a long-standing consensus on Wikipedia as a whole, since 2008 and reaffirmed by extensive discussions in 2012, and reaffirmed again every time the issue comes up in a venue that isn't controlled by a pro-capitalization wikiproject, to use lower case for the common (vernacular) names of species. As of 2014-04-21, a straw poll at WT:MOS shows a 3-to-1 majority in favor of lower-case, and this is consistent with past discussions. Isn't the matter already over?

I've been doing a lot of thinking about this, and have come to the conclusion that there are principally two factors at work here that make resolution of the matter difficult and, regardless of polls and RfCs, are likely to lead to continued unhappiness and strife no matter which way such a binary choice goes:

  1. Many writers, both on and off Wikipedia, in and out of academia, recognize capitalization in particular as not just some kind of emphasis like boldfacing, italicizing, use of small-caps, underlining, etc. MOS (see MOS:CAPS) is quite explicit about this and has been for years. While not everyone agrees, and some (particularly in specialty publications where writing conventions are often bent on purpose to expedite communication among professionals/devotees, in a form of code) do want to treat capitals as simply a style choice, for many it is palpably different. This isn't a matter of whim or subjective opinion, as this view is supported by most reliable sources on English-language writing. Capitalization has much stricter rules surrounding it (in English, anyway), in virtually all style guides and other sources of guidance on how to write in this language. This is why people care more, react more negatively, to neologistic usage like capitalizing all names of a certain class of things as if they're proper names, more so than they react to, say, italicizing them. The language is steadily moving away from capitalization, so it is unlikely that the "why the hell is that capitalized?!" reaction is going to get anything but stronger. [Note that I'm not making any kind of prescriptive or value-based judgment here; this is all just descriptive observation of facts.]
  2. While many of the specialty publications of virtually all fields engage in emphasis of some sort as a simple stylistic convention, capitalization in a handful of fields has become so ingrained that it may be perceived as "insulting" to its practitioners/constituents or "ignorant" to do it any other way (even while everyone else feels the same way about the imposition on them of this capitalization). The principal, often only, reason is that the emphasis is useful for disambiguation. [In the birds case, a claim has been also made by some WP:BIRDS editors that there's a formal, universally accepted international standard, but this is an exaggeration.] They already know the arguments against this clarity idea in this medium in particular, which can disambiguate with linking and using clearer writing, yet some of them insist on it anyway. Resistance to lower-casing is not universal among specialists whose fields often capitalize common names in their own specialist publications; e.g., herpetologists have not put up a fight about it, and almost all of the reptile and amphibian articles have been decapitalized without any fuss, from specialists or from readers. But it happens often enough to be a problem. The arguments (whether one considers them strong or not) to do away with the capitalization here consequently makes those who prefer it for reasons they see as important feel like they're being singled out and picked on.

This conflict continues because the pro-LC side see capitalization for emphasis as unacceptably abusive of a distinct, especially meaningful feature of the language as if it were the same as some others (which are all typeface styling), and that it's being done for no reason but inappropriate emphasis, while the pro-UC side are firmly convinced that they're being denied, for no reason, the same kind or level (if not precise form) of markup that is used to denote titles of published works, or foreign words interpolated into English, or whathaveyou, and that not getting to capitalize causes serious ambiguity problems in their material.

What if there were another way, that didn't play favorites? Using small-caps style is the most obvious such way, and would not conflict with other usage or rules.

One thing I've picked up in the course of researching both the MOS:ORGANISMS draft and this entire "birdcaps" dispute is that many sources (journals, field guides, websites, encyclopedic works, prosey naturalist writing, etc.) in many biological fields as well as more general works, do believe firmly in the power of typographically disambiguating, e.g., the California slender salamander from slender salamanders in California. But they often do it without resorting to use/abuse of capitalization. The most common alternative is small-capitals typography, of the specific form distinguishes actual capitalization: California slender salamander. WP doesn't presently use that kind of typography for much of anything programmatic, and I can see a strong argument being made for using it in biological articles for the formal English-language vernacular names of species of anything, when they're being discussed as species. I.e., it would be used for both "cougar" and "mountain lion" but not regionalisms or slang like "painter" with regard to that species, nor for foreign names not assimilated into English like "okapi" has been. Nor would it be used when distinguishing species is not important, e.g. in "injured while riding a horse".

It still would not entirely please every one of the birders, some of whom are [unreasonably, in my view] convinced that bird names are proper names and must be capitalized no matter what, that the capital letters in particular are somehow more important than the disambiguation-by-emphasis function they serve. But it seems like a reasonable compromise, and WP:Consensus does not require total unanimity. All indications may be that, WP-wide, there's at least a 2/3 majority in favor of lower-casing all vernacular names, so, the argument goes, we might as well just do it. But why go that "we win, so stop capitalizing" route, which smacks of us-vs.-them thinking and WP:WINNING, if it's guaranteed to piss off some subset of productive editors, if there's a way to keep almost everyone happy? That's my thinking. [I'm much more peace-minded that I get credit for.] Those to whom the disambiguation function is more important than the upper-case form should like this idea. No more "it is/is not a proper name" fight, either. [That's a fight that capitalizers will lose, because the reliable sources in linguistics and philosophy of language are strongly against them on this.]

The best way to approach implementing this might be a bit technological, with a {{vernacular name}} template (with a shortcut like {{vername}}) that takes care of this stuff as a CSS style matter. This way people with accounts can use their own CSS pages here to disable or change this styling if they want. I'm thinking that user-level Javascript might even be able to force-capitalize for those who want them capitalized, without imposing it on others.

 — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  01:01, 22 April 2014 (UTC) (subject to revision)

PS: Yes, do feel free to use the talk page here if this is worth discussing in this form.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  11:03, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

A variant of this idea is to similarly use such a template, with a CSS class, to apply some other stylistic change, e.g. a serif font, that raises fewer objections than smallcaps does. Those who actually like the smallcaps idea can simply use CSS to change it to that style. THose who don't want any such style can do likewise to remove it. It's also noteworthy that such a solution can also be implemented for the official names of standardized breeds, should we want to decapitalize them (which is maybe a 50/50 chance).  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  22:30, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Unexamined discussions (may need link-fixing because of archival)[edit]


Other organism-related titling issues[edit]

Scientific versus vernacular names[edit]

There are a whole bunch of threads about this, especially regarding plants and extinct animals, but also broader ones.

Just starting with 1 link for now, but there are probably 50+ to find:

Naming-unrelated[edit]

Behavior/temperament sections at breed articles, and the original research and bad sourcing they're full of:

See also[edit]

Relevant policies and guidelines[edit]

Relevant essays[edit]


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