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jbmurray is busy in real life and may not respond swiftly to queries.

I prefer to keep both sides of my discussions together. If you leave me a message here, I will reply here, perhaps with a copy to your page. But if I left a note on your talk page, feel free to reply there or here. Thanks!

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The article And a body to remember with has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

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Hi JBmurray, I discovered another major lack of citations WP:YTCOPYRIGHT WP:RS issue with what appears to be another article being edited by your class. It’s admirable that you are taking on education on editing on Wikipedia, something that I believe more people should know how to do properly. Hopefully when finished with your class, the new users enjoyed the experience and continue to be active in the editor community! I removed a large section of Essay-style writing with no citations and sources despite close paraphrasing and/or quoting of books and options on Down These Mean Streets. Per WP:VER All quotations, and any material whose verifiability has been challenged or is likely to be challenged, must include an inline citation that directly supports the material. Any material that needs a source but does not have one may be removed. And WP:COPYVIO which calls for infringing content should be removed... I have RV’d the edit until the user can provide citations and references along the Wikipedia guidelines. Perhaps it would be helpful as their instructor to present a lesson on WP:VER, citations, references, WP:WHYCITE and similar subjects.--Bhockey10 (talk) 02:35, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

HiUser:Bhockey10 and thanks for this. We will be talking about these issues tomorrow morning. For now, let me just say that these are works in progress. We have several weeks left with this project. Your comments on talk pages are most welcome. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 07:13, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi JB, Thanks for your REs on the talk page. As you may have guessed, I'm an editor who highly values refs and cites and also a copyvio reverter. Those issues often hold back Wikipedia outside of the WP community and in academia who see it as an unreliable source. Outsiders/non-users see it a a free-for-all with no rules and regulations, when in fact the community is well structured. One of my major goals is to personally add well-referenced content as well as positively encouraging others to do the same. Hopefully your students are having a good experience and gaining valuable work to becoming well-rounded editors. I added a couple Under Construction tags to Down These Mean Streets and Gregorio Cortez If you have other pages as part of the class assignment, it might be helpful for you to add that tag to them. Hopefully that will help other editors to avoid WP:BITE and work with your student editors in an effective manner per WP:ASSIGN. Thanks again for your work and I hope they are enjoying the experience and we'll have a batch of young/eager editors who stick with the WP Community long after the project. Best Wishes! --Bhockey10 (talk) 20:11, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Great, many thanks. Yes, absolutely I want my students to learn about adding well-referenced material, using reliable sources. The other article they are working on is The House on Mango Street. I generally avoid those "under construction" templates, but I may add one there, too. :) Thanks again. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 20:28, 12 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I added a few bullets but didn't want to overwhelm them so stopped after a few sections. Looks like some good sources and useful material; the main thing at issue is encyclopedic voice. Pier Gerlofs Donia might be a decent model for them to follow: a folk hero, not yet a GA, but the voice is right -- no drama, just the facts. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 17:49, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks so much. Will get to this later today. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 22:33, 20 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I'm happy to pick up the GA review if you want -- let me know. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:28, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That would be cool. Frankly, myself I've been focussing on our other two articles, which need rather more work (though The House on Mango Street is pretty close; Down These Mean Streets is not). Tell me what you think! (And I promise I will get around to some reviewing myself!) --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 11:30, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Will do. Have to work so may or may not be today; I may be taking a half-day. If not I will look tomorrow. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 11:32, 31 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Gregorio Cortez you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Mike Christie -- Mike Christie (talk) 11:20, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect, many thanks. I'm sure that @Pechodor13, Maymolina, and Chr66: will also be on the case. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 15:14, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've completed a first pass. Can I assume that you've eyeballed the source quality and reliability yourself? I've noted one or two dubious sources in the review but you'll know better than I would whether the books cited are the right sort of scholarship. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 21:41, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I note that you changed the format of citation in the article on The Lady Vanishes. I also note at WP:CITEVAR it says: "Editors should not attempt to change an article's established citation style merely on the grounds of personal preference, to make it match other articles, or without first seeking consensus for the change." - kosboot (talk) 12:53, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. Have at it. But I noticed that the combination of templates in use there wasn't working, in that clicking on the links in the footnotes wasn't directing you to the bibliography.

After a few experiments, I think that could be fixed merely by changing the "cite book" (etc.) templates to "citation." So the "harvnb" templates could be returned to the "sfn" ones. I have to admit I was unfamiliar with that template, but like its simplicity. I may use them in other articles I'm working on.

Anyhow, as I say, I'm easy. But I simply noticed that the combination in use wasn't doing what was intended. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 15:12, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed in my early stages of editing on WP I used harv, but then I realized that SFN was created to improve upon harv and make citation work easier. I'll check to see what works & what doesn't. Thanks for your efforts. - kosboot (talk) 15:19, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The article Gregorio Cortez you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Gregorio Cortez for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Mike Christie -- Mike Christie (talk) 21:40, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article The House on Mango Street you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Drmies -- Drmies (talk) 21:40, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent, many thanks! I will ensure that @Ubcstudent1234, MLTodd, and Stephjos: are alert to any revisions they need to make. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 23:19, 5 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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