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List of monarchs of the Muhammad Ali Dynasty[edit]

This is a self-nomination. I believe the list currently meets all of the FL criteria: it covers an important topic, is stable and non-controversial, fully referenced and has a nice layout. Moreover, there are currently only three monarchy-related featured lists on Wikipedia, so a new addition would be good. All objections of course will be promptly addressed.BomBom (talk) 19:39, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose

• lots of MOS issues especially Y
• First and third paragraphs in the lead have no references Y
• "1805 till 1953." – "1805 until 1953."??? Y
• "1805-1867" – year ranges use en dashes per WP:DASH Y
• page ranges in references use en dashes Y
• "13 - 19 March 2003" –『13–19 March 2003』etc. Y
• "nineteenth century" – I think consensus is to spell out centuries so "19th century" Y
• unlink lone years like in "in 1882, the " Y

Gary King (talk) 08:02, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All of your objections have been addressed.BomBom (talk) 12:14, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - sources look okay. Links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:18, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

• En dash for date ranges—one there needs to be spaced. Please see MOS:DASH.
• Table: can you manipulate the column widths to give more to "Fate" in the second table: the text is like skyscrapers. Tony (talk) 08:35, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Y Done. Your comments have been taken into account. BomBom (talk) 14:19, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• I don't like the use of colour in columns that big, would it be possible to remove all the green colouring and just use grey? Also, could you make the images a little smaller? -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 16:53, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Y Done. I replaced the green background with a light gray one, and reduced the size of the images to 80px. BomBom (talk) 18:29, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

• I don't understand what all the pink is for.
• Are you sure Isma'il Pasha's reign in the Ottoman province didn't end on 7 June, and he begin with the Ottoman Khedivate on 8 June? What I mean is was he granted the title of Khedive on 8 June and he used it immediately, or was he granted it before 8 June, and he became Khedive as soon as the clock struck midnight?
• Why aren't there full entries for Aziz Ezzat Pasha, Prince Muhammad Ali and Sherif Sabri Pasha?
• Same for the rows after the Revolution
• Why is the table header "Revolution" written as "R E V O L U T I O N"? This causes WP:ACCESS problems with screen readers.
• Per Wikipedia:CITE#Citation templates and tools and WP:CITET, {{citation}} shouldn't be used on the same page as {{cite web}}, {{cite book}} or anything else in the {{cite xxx}} range. I know that the citation ones are being used for {{harvnb}}, but as I've found out from my nominations -- it doesn't matter. All the reference templates should be converted to citation, or lose the harvard referencing function. :(

Matthewedwards (talk • contribs • email) 22:41, 4 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll address your concerns one by one:

• Where do you see pink???
• Isma'il Pasha obtained the Ottoman firman (i.e. decree) appointing him as wāli on 8 June 1867, and the decree had immediate effect.
• It seems to me the answer is pretty obvious from the article itself. Aziz Ezzat Pasha, Prince Muhammad Ali and Sherif Sabri Pasha were regents. Therefore, there should be a distinction between them and the other monarchs.
• Same answer regarding the rows after the Revolution.
• The "Revolution" table header has been fixed.
• All reference templates have been converted to citation.

BomBom (talk) 00:58, 5 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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