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byCommunityMember ( 6662188 ) writes:
Even the While House Press office agrees that this requires congressional action, which almost everyone agrees is not going to happen. It would appear appearances are more important then actual results.
byTablizer ( 95088 ) writes:
But Trump can just close it and there are no cops to enforce the court rulings. Thanks to SCOTUS's 5th Avenue Gift Card, Impeachment is just about the only thing that can stop Don from just doing whatever the fuck he wants, and that takes 2/3 of Congress, which is unlikely to happen because Don has GOP by the balls by threatening to fund campaigns against disloyal GOP reps.
He's a thug. It's civil war or we will be Nazified.
byWaffleMonster ( 969671 ) writes:
But Trump can just close it and there are no cops to enforce the court rulings.
The courts can deputize people to physically carry out court orders. It can hold people that are not the president criminally and or civilly in contempt of court. The president never actually physically does anything himself.
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bygtall ( 79522 ) writes:
And asshole can call out his own Maggot army like he did on Jan. 6. Good luck getting the deputies to fight against that crew when that crew is composed of neo-Nazis and willing to start shooting. They aren't training in private militias for no reason.
bynarcc ( 412956 ) writes:
They're still a tiny minority, fortunately. With luck, they'll be an even smaller minority after they start shooting.
byukoda ( 537183 ) writes:
Amazing to read the discussions like this happening in the USA. From the outside looking in the decline in the USA has be clear for a long time now, but the rate that is now happening is breath taking. The fact that majority voted for this is hard to comprehend. I'm guessing the average voter was too self centered and short sighted to truly comprehend the choice they were making. The alternative reasons for their actions cast a far worse view on them.
There are fixes for the problem but again they will never happen due to voters self interests being put ahead of their desire to have a robust democracy.
I assume after you guys finish gutting your government the next step to deal with those pesky voters having a say. You don't want them voting for change in 2028.
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byArchieBunker ( 132337 ) writes:
The fact that majority voted for this is hard to comprehend.
It's more like 1/3 of the country when you look at the popular vote.
bykarmawarrior ( 311177 ) writes:
1/3 directly supported him
Another 1/3 is made up of people who either were victims of voter suppression or who just didn't care enough, supporting Trump through inaction because they didn't see him as a big enough problem.
Unfortunately it's reasonable to make the claim the majority of Americans supported Trump and what he represented. The Democrats put up a pretty inoffensive candidate last year, and somehow the non-voting third still felt Trump was an acceptable alternative.
bymartin-boundary ( 547041 ) writes:
And the remaining 1/3 wrings their hands and complains online, but doesn't actually do anything about it.
bydrinkypoo ( 153816 ) writes:
The Democrats put up a pretty inoffensive candidate last year
Not to the bulk of the kind of people who support him, no.
Can't support rump without supporting rape and racism. A black woman is the antichrist to people like that.
bykarmawarrior ( 311177 ) writes:
> Not to the bulk of the kind of people who support him, no.
But that's the entire point.
Unless you're a white supremacist, a black woman as president is not, by itself, offensive.
Nothing in Harris's background should have rung alarm bells in the same way that a Nazi Russian puppet rapist who considered an underage sex slave trafficker his best friend and bragged about sexual power, and whose business career was full of failures and fraud due to an obsession with power plays rather than building successfu
bydrinkypoo ( 153816 ) writes:
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Do shut the fuck up. [theguardian.com]
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bygweihir ( 88907 ) writes:
The fact that majority voted for this is hard to comprehend.
It's more like 1/3 of the country when you look at the popular vote.
Well, maybe. Many were just too mired in their own stuff to realize what was ging on.
But here is the kicker: Adolf Hitler was voted into power with just 43% of the votes cast. And look what he did with that. He dismantled that state, put his own soldiers everywhere, legitimized his private army and then made himself one of the most prolific mass-murderers of all time. Sounds familiar?
byDeep Esophagus ( 686515 ) writes:
The fact that majority voted for this is hard to comprehend.
I'll leave others in this conversation to argue over what constitutes a "majority" and focus on the demographics and attitudes of those who voted for him. I place the blame entirely on Biden and the Democratic Party for this. They had the election in the bag, with most people - even most Republicans - unwilling to sink into the Trump debacle again, and somehow they still managed to fumble it. Why?
First, because they didn't quietly but firmly push Biden out of the race from the get-go. If they had started of
bydunkelfalke ( 91624 ) writes:
If these voters seriously thought that cheeto benito was a better choice than the status quo and that he gives a shit about their concerns, then, well, they got what they rightfully deserve. Because they should have known exactly what they were going to get - the economy circling down the drain and a really shit foreign policy. What else can that possibly be if not stupidity? Because protest voting is generally stupid and protest voting in a two party system is as stupid as it gets.
bythegarbz ( 1787294 ) writes:
The fact that majority voted for this is hard to comprehend.
THIS HERE! Most of the dictatorships / hard right fascists grew into their position, not get voted in. You end up with a "normal" party in power, who over the course of time sets up institutions to stay in power. But with Trump, EVERYONE KNEW. I mean I laughed at the silly Americans the first time they voted in Trump. But when they did it again my jaw hit the fucking floor.
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bylamer01 ( 1097759 ) writes:
Not everyone thinks that diminishing the federal government role in every aspect of our lives is bad. What's missing in the portrayal of what's going on is that the USA has State governments that closely resemble actual countries. The Federal government's role was supposed to be limited to very few functions. I think Trump may be reverting us back to that.
byMobyDisk ( 75490 ) writes:
The fact that majority voted for this is hard to comprehend
Enabling Act of 1933, which made Hitler a dictator, passed by 83%. Americans have been taught that fascism will sneak in through the back door silently, and that all that is required to stop it is for the moral majority to speak up. But that isn't how it works: that moral majority become the fascists, believing that only a dictator can solve their problems.
byMagius_AR ( 198796 ) writes:
The fact that majority voted for this is hard to comprehend.
Fully disagree. The writing was always on the wall...just look at Biden's polling numbers. It's sad, but it isa two party system, and Dems really dropped the ball on the last 4 years. No one ever vacillates towards the middle, so our country continues to bounce back and forth between years of Republican and Democrat control, because in reality everyone hates the partisan shit of both sides, but neither ever learns that lesson. And it'll keep
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bynosfucious ( 157958 ) writes:
More scarily, the President could probably say "you can do what you want to any court deputies, just stop them, do what you have to, I'll pardon you". All legal protections for anyone acting on behalf of the court count for very little against an armed mob protected by presidential immunity.
It will be economics that does this president in. The masses (via pensions) and the 1% haven't started to feel the stock market pressure ... yet. Stock market down leads to lack of confidence, less investment, less jobs,
bygweihir ( 88907 ) writes:
Give it 6 months and most Blue Tie and Red Tie politicians start to look at the mid-terms. Only then might they grow balls.
Trump will probably just declare them "terrorists" and send them to El Salvador some night. He might add some judges to that trip. There is ample space in the concentration camp they built there. Apparently something like 25'000 free spaces and my bet is Trump will rent them all.
bymsauve ( 701917 ) writes:
>The president never actually physically does anything himself.
I've heard he occasionally throws ketchup on the walls all by himself.
bytlhIngan ( 30335 ) writes:
The courts can deputize people to physically carry out court orders. It can hold people that are not the president criminally and or civilly in contempt of court. The president never actually physically does anything himself.
Exactly. There are people the courts can go after. And they can just start hauling people in one at a time until their will is done, all the while jailing them until they get compliance.
The courts will simply start at people they can go after first. Can't go after Elon Musk? Go after hi
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