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The U.S. has surpassed 2,000 measles cases for the first time in more than 30 years, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. From a report: As of Dec. 23, a total of 2,012 cases have been reported in the U.S. Of those cases, 24 were reported among international visitors to the U.S.
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bystooo ( 2202012 ) writes:
Jut suppress the statistics and pretend the problem does not exist.
Chinese method.
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bygweihir ( 88907 ) writes:
The orange ape will get on it posthaste! If he can keep it together long enough...
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bynightflameauto ( 6607976 ) writes:
Jut suppress the statistics and pretend the problem does not exist.
Chinese method.
Nah, this is the US. We'll have some half-dead zombie make a public speech saying that these people just need to toughen up and that if we hadn't turned ourselves into giant wusses by taking vaccines this wouldn't be happening. You forgot America's number one rule, never let a tragedy go to waste.
byfluffernutter ( 1411889 ) writes:
And I thought the number one rule was 'rich people need to make more money'.
bystabiesoft ( 733417 ) writes:
Funny, a neighbor just recently made that argument to me about vaccines and kids. I imagine a fox news talking point. I don't even respond anymore. How does one respond to stupid?
byAnonymous Coward writes:
Jut suppress the statistics and pretend the problem does not exist.
Chinese method.
And endorsed by Trump in 2020.
byOrangeTide ( 124937 ) writes:
The American way is to blame it on the immigrants.
byAmiMoJo ( 196126 ) writes:
I'm surprised they aren't doing that already. 125 years ago when Jewish refugees started arriving in numbers in the UK, they were accused of bringing diseases.
bystooo ( 2202012 ) writes:
All Americans are immigrants (except some tribes)
So, you're right, you are all guilty.
bydrinkypoo ( 153816 ) writes:
It might if our vaccination rates weren't lower than most third world countries, racist prick
bynicolaiplum ( 169077 ) writes:
What's next, re-introducing smallpox?
byMr. Dollar Ton ( 5495648 ) writes:
Perhaps they still keep some blankets at Mars-a-Lardo.
byMr. Dollar Ton ( 5495648 ) writes:
Oh, I see a religious nut with a grudge has mod points. Tell me, dear ISIS brother, what's the reason for the disappearance of the smallpox and how it relates to the vaccination policies of the current government that you helped to get elected.
byfahrbot-bot ( 874524 ) writes:
What's next, re-introducing smallpox?
Hey, anything to Make America Healthy Again - right? /s
byJamesTRexx ( 675890 ) writes:
24 were reported among international visitors to the U.S.
..to avoid visiting the USA.
It's bad for both mental and physical health (apart from the chance of lead poisoning).
byWheres the kaboom ( 10344974 ) writes:
Canada is reporting more measles cases (5400) than the U.S. (2000) despite Canada having a much lower population:
https://health-infobase.canada... [canada.ca]
bydrinkypoo ( 153816 ) writes:
Canada is America's hat, and apparently it's a red one.
We have an awful lot of awful history in common.
bydrinkypoo ( 153816 ) writes:
I see you skipped over the genocides.
Coward.
bydrinkypoo ( 153816 ) writes:
We're funding a genocide right now and also invading sovereign countries on false pretext. You're a dumb fuck genocide apologist. Eat every dick.
bydrinkypoo ( 153816 ) writes:
As long as you continue denying genocide I'm concluding that you are either a bot or as intelligent as one
bydrinkypoo ( 153816 ) writes:
blind justice
HahAAHHahAHAHHAHAHA
valuing the sanctity of individual life
HJAHJHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
property rights
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decentralized governance
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
freedom of religion
HJHHAhaHAHAHHAAH
and free speech
This we have a little bit of, but the catholic court is eroding that.
Thanks for the laugh, scum.
byBruce66423 ( 1678196 ) writes:
Ideally an unvaccinated kid should not be allowed to attend public schools unless there is an overwhelming medical reason (known allergy in the child) for not being vaccinated. That particular boat seems to have left, so perhaps we need to see some cases where the parents of a child who is in the chain that leads to damage or death in another child is sued for the damages. This would only be just...
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bydfghjk ( 711126 ) writes:
You mean like it used to be until recently?
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byswillden ( 191260 ) writes:
You mean like it used to be until recently?
AFAIK it has always been possible to get exceptions to the vaccination requirements. I know it was when I was in school (70s and 80s) and when my kids were in school (90s and 2000s). It's just that not very many people tried, and herd immunity is a real thing.
bykenh ( 9056 ) writes:
What changed? Where in the U.S. are measles vaccines not required in 2025?
Has RFK, jr actually changed the measles vaccine requirement? No, he didn't.
https://www.immunize.org/offic... [immunize.org]
bylarwe ( 858929 ) writes:
It is incredibly difficult to prove just where the links of that chain led to, though. Such lawsuits have been filed but to date, there is apparently not a single one that has been successful. Sure, you may have a really damn good idea that UnVaxedBobby was the kid who infected your child, because UnVaxedBobby was the only positive case you know of - but the defense will argue "your child was out and about in the environment, walking through supermarkets, licking doorknobs, who knows where in the world they acquired the specific dose that infected them?"
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byBruce66423 ( 1678196 ) writes:
It might be an extreme one: unvaxxed Billy bursts into immuno-compromised Johnnie's otherwise sterile hospital room without a facemask because he's his best friend. Johnnie dies of measles and Billy had it at the time. Once the story started to roll, it would send the message.
bylarwe ( 858929 ) writes:
Pretty sure this exact scenario has played out and _still_ not led to a victory in court. Hospitals are not completely sterile; they're not AMRIID isolation rooms. Infections do occur. Personnel move to and fro through them. Enough to create doubt.
bytechno-vampire ( 666512 ) writes:
... Enough to create doubt.
This, however would be a civil case not a criminal one. Reasonable doubt is only the standard in criminal cases. In a civil case like this, the standard is the preponderance of evidence. That means that the jury is supposed to judge for whichever side is more likely; 51% is supposed to be enough.
bylarwe ( 858929 ) writes:
I understand that indeed, but preponderance of evidence means preponderance of _actual_ evidence. And this is kind of an "absence of evidence may or may not be evidence of absence" thing. As I understand it, the play was:
Side A: Timmy McVulnerable was happy in his isolation bubble. Then Bobby Unvaxxed came in. During the expected incubation period of measles, Timmy started showing symptoms. Bobby was diagnosed with measles at a time that overlaps his infectious period with the day he visited Timmy. Ergo, he
byTargon ( 17348 ) writes:
When you have people in government creating doubt about the effectiveness of vaccines in general, then those people in government are fully responsible for the drop in vaccination rates. The US government even has it in the preamble to the US Constitution..."...to promote the general welfare...", and that says government should be doing things to improve things for the overall population. While some doubt might be reasonable for NEW vaccines, the idea of vaccines overall has been proven to be a good thin
bylarwe ( 858929 ) writes:
You're not going to get any argument out of me. Last wellness visit when my son needed shots, the Dr. was kinda skating around language saying things like "Well, the general recommendation is ..." - it took me a bit to realize that I live in Indiana and she was not sure what kind of person she was talking to. So I cut through the whole thing by saying "Doctor, this is a factory fresh baby, he is on the factory maintenance schedule". She looked visibly relieved.
bysmooth wombat ( 796938 ) writes:
When you have Republicans saying they want things to be like their were in the 50s, then put an anti-vaxxer in charge of the nation's top health agency, what would you expect?
Whooping cough cases are also seeing a similar increase as well as deaths.
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by0xG ( 712423 ) writes:
When you have Republicans saying they want things to be like their were in the 50s, then put an anti-vaxxer in charge of the nation's top health agency, what would you expect?
Whooping cough cases are also seeing a similar increase as well as deaths.
Let's bring back Thalidomide while we're on this nostalgia kick!
byrskbrkr ( 824653 ) writes:
TIL Mark Carney is a Republican. It's about 21 times higher if you calculate the per capita value btw.
Canada lost its measles elimination status on November 10, 2025, after more than 12 months of sustained transmission of the highly contagious and deadly viral disease. The decision by the Pan American Health Organization (PAHO) – which is the regional office for the Americas of the World Health Organization (WHO) – comes as Canada faces a large, multi-jurisdictional outbreak of measles with over 5,200 cases year to date, leading to two deaths.
https://www.globalcitizen.org/en/content/canada-loses-measles-free-status/ [globalcitizen.org]
byfahrbot-bot ( 874524 ) writes:
When you have Republicans saying they want things to be like their were in the 50s, ...
Which is also before Medicare and Medicaid were enacted (1965),
but they'll have to revert us back to before 1935 to get us back to before Social Security.
Pretty sure they'd love that too.
bykenh ( 9056 ) writes:
Except the MMR (measles) vaccine is currently required, maybe dig a little deeper into the science, rely a little less on political talking heads?
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/h... [cdc.gov]
byMr. Dollar Ton ( 5495648 ) writes:
The spike happened in an area where the measles vaccination rate is low, which makes it easy to have an outbreak. The vaccination rate is low because there has been since September 1st, 2023 a broad "exemption" from vaccination due to reasons of religious-based willful ignorance:
Since September 1, 2003, Texas law has allowed parents to exempt their children from school-required vaccines for reasons of conscience, which includes religious and philosophical beliefs. This is a much broader standard than states that only allow narrow medical exemptions.
So, it is the policy of the party of the current administration as practiced in one of the states that is best aligned with the raging idiocy of that administration emanating from its leaders, ratfuck jr. and donold j. trump.
But please tell us how it isn't the case.
Health officials confirmed Tuesday that two dozen people have been identified with measles in Gaines County, Texas, which has one of the highest rates of vaccine exemptions in the entire state. All of the confirmed measles cases in the county involve unvaccinated residents, and nine patients have been hospitalized.
"It is troubling, because this was completely preventable," Dr. Amesh Adalja, an infectious disease physician and senior scholar at Johns Hopkins, told CBS News on Wednesday. "What we're seeing is, one of the places in Texas — it has the lowest vaccination rates, the highest school exemption rates from measles vaccination — having a measles outbreak, including hospitalizations of individuals who've been infected with measles."
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by0xG ( 712423 ) writes:
"It is troubling, because this was completely preventable," Dr. Amesh Adalja, an infectious disease physician and senior scholar at Johns Hopkins, told CBS News
Well, hurry up and get rid of those Indian immigrants...that ought to put things right. /s
byMr. Dollar Ton ( 5495648 ) writes:
Are you insulting Kashyap and Vivek? A unit has been dispatched to pick you up, please stand by the door with your papers, citizen.
bySmaryJerry ( 2759091 ) writes:
Why would you ever think a law from 2003 has anything to do with the current administrator and the uptick now? Trump was a Democrat back in 2003.
byZorroXXX ( 610877 ) writes:
People that are unvaccinated have been unvaccinated for YEARS
And who is to blame for that?
Of course it is the anti-science, anti-public health republicans [slashdot.org].
bygtall ( 79522 ) writes:
Apparently vaccination rates are dropping by quite a bit: https://www.washingtonpost.com... [washingtonpost.com]
And parents will not know the extent of their stupidity because the CDC won't be collecting data like they did in the past. Immuno-compromised kids will lose.
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bylarwe ( 858929 ) writes:
When I came in for a vax a few weeks ago, my pharmacist said "you should get everything you can while it's still on the market... I advise you get [xyz] ASAP". So yeah my arm hurt like a mofo that day :)
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bynecro81 ( 917438 ) writes:
So yeah my arm hurt like a mofo that day
Yup, but small price to pay compared to experiencing any one of the diseases you are now immunized against. And also a small price to pay for the consolation that you won't be the link in a chain of infection that leads to some else's death. So, all in all, worth it for both purely selfish and for social-contract reasons. If only everyone could be so enlightened.
bylarwe ( 858929 ) writes:
small price to pay compared to experiencing any one of the diseases you are now immunized against
Oh of course. I am not afraid of vaccines, just occasionally lazy enough not to get them. I usually get the routine ones but this time my pharmacist pointed out that things are weird at the moment and for a mere $0 (plus $20 in free store credits) I could get several other vaccines NOW before the insurance companies stop covering them. He was Vietnamese. We compared our dates of birth and smallpox vaccine scars. He told me "You probably get too many shots, since you can recognize which vaccine that was".
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byantdude ( 79039 ) writes:
Which vaccines and how many? Shouldn't it just be one vaccine on each arm like COVID19 and flu shots?
bylarwe ( 858929 ) writes:
Covid, flu, RSV, Hep A+B first dose (second A dose is next week), and some kind of pneumonia.
bylarwe ( 858929 ) writes:
The only thing I needed to prove to anyone was that I would like to not get hepatitis from eating fecally contaminated lettuce. And that if someone offers me a few billion dollars in medical research that might make my remaining life a bit less unpleasant by fending off some bacteria/viruses - I will take it, especially if it's free.
byCarcass666 ( 539381 ) writes:
sigh...
bySpiceWare ( 3438 ) writes:
From Ten countries in the Americas report measles outbreaks in 2025 [paho.org] we can see that Mexico and Canada already had more cases back in August than the US does now at the end of the year despite them having much smaller populations than the US.
Countries with the highest case numbers include Canada (4,548 cases), Mexico (3,911 cases), and the United States (1,356 cases).
I find it interesting that ABC chose not to mention this pertinent information, makes me wonder what other news they're suppressing.
bynickovs ( 115935 ) writes:
Well, it's a US news outlet, and US news reporting does tend to be rather parochial; I think it is more myopia than new suppression. The news here is the huge leap up in cases in the USA but I'm sure the RFK will be upset that you're not #1 yet.
It's worth noting that there are some strong similarities between the US and Canadian outbreaks in 2025. Both started in Mennonite communities with very low vaccination rates and spread through close community contact. The Canadian outbreak appears to have started
bySpiceWare ( 3438 ) writes:
Maybe, but based on the responses seen here on Slashdot, ABC's coverage is fanning a political conflict despite the US fairing significantly better than our immediate neighbors during the current global outbreak of measles. [cdc.gov]
bykenh ( 9056 ) writes:
Well, it's a US news outlet, and US news reporting does tend to be rather parochial; I think it is more myopia than new suppression. The news here is the huge leap up in cases in the USA but I'm sure the RFK will be upset that you're not #1 yet.
So, roughly, Canada had what, 4x as many cases of measles as the U.S.? OK, those are absolute numbers, let's factor in population - Canada has 38M residents, US has 338M, or about 1/9the population of the U.S. That means Canada had about 40x the number of measles cas
byF.Ultra ( 1673484 ) writes:
Comparing yourself with other countries that is also doing it wrong does not make you more right. This is a really strange cope.
bynecro81 ( 917438 ) writes:
we can see that Mexico and Canada already had more cases
Saying that other countries are doing worse is no excuse for the US not doing better. That's like doing poorly in the SATs because you were out partying the night before, then crowing how awesome it is that you're still above the median. [slow clap]
Or, to up the stakes to life and death (because, for vaccines, it is): that's like doing the Hunger Games and saying "Well, I got killed off, but there were 7 others that got killed before me - suckers!"
byArchieBunker ( 132337 ) writes:
Whataboutism.
bykenh ( 9056 ) writes:
Canada had 3x the measles case count in a country with 1/9th the population compared with the U.S.
That's a comparison that merits attention, not dismissal - it means a person in Canada is 27x more likely to get measles than someone in the U.S., and this is despite Canada's single-payer, better than the U.S., healthcare system...
I'd be curious to know the trend in Canada over, say, the past 5-10 years and compare it to the trend in the U.S. over the same time period, if both spiked at about the same time, th
bySalo2112 ( 628590 ) writes:
https://health-infobase.canada... [canada.ca]
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bythegarbz ( 1787294 ) writes:
The USA does not have a monopoly on stupid, merely a controlling interest. MMR vaccination rates are down 12% in Canada over just 3 years ago. To calculate the herd immunity rate to prevent a virus from spreading you taken the R value of the virus (measles infects 15 people per infected person) and type it into the formular ( 1 – (1/R) ). 93% vaccination rate is required to keep measles from spreading. Canada had that in 2018, it's now down at 80%.
byEnder_Wiggin ( 180793 ) writes:
Likely in the new year, the CDC and WHO will remove the US from the list of countries that have "eradicated" measles.
bynecro81 ( 917438 ) writes:
Remember when Trump said that we're going to win so much, we'll get tired of it? If this is winning, I'm well past tired of it.
Or when he pulled RFK Jr. from the nutso bush league, made him the face of federal health policy, and told him to "go wild on health"? Wild indeed.
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byWheres the kaboom ( 10344974 ) writes:
Canada is reporting far more measles cases (5400) than the U.S. (2000) despite Canada having a much lower population:
https://health-infobase.canada... [canada.ca]
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byWheres the kaboom ( 10344974 ) writes:
Canada is reporting far more measles cases (5400) than the U.S. (2000) despite Canada having a much lower population:
https://health-infobase.canada... [canada.ca]
I was too conservative in my estimates. It’s more like 20X.
bySlashbotAgent ( 6477336 ) writes:
Interesting. There's certainly something going on with Measles. The U.S. has seen significant spikes(2014 & 2019) and lows(only 13 cases in 2020. 49 in 2021).
To what does Canada attribute their numbers? Is it anti-vaccination? Do they blame Trump, as everyone likes to do here on Slashdot?
bybussdriver ( 620565 ) writes:
Blaming Trump or his cult is usually reasonable guess.
bySlashbotAgent ( 6477336 ) writes:
Blaming Trump or his cult is usually reasonable guess.
I struggle to see how anyone could reasonably argue that Trump is to blame for Canada's 20x measles rate.
But, yuck yuck yuck. I guess.
byswillden ( 191260 ) writes:
Interesting. There's certainly something going on with Measles. The U.S. has seen significant spikes(2014 & 2019) and lows(only 13 cases in 2020. 49 in 2021).
To what does Canada attribute their numbers? Is it anti-vaccination? Do they blame Trump, as everyone likes to do here on Slashdot?
The problem in Canada is the same thing it is in the US, and it's not Trump's fault that it started, though Trump choice of RFK Jr for Secretary of HHS is definitely contributing to not stopping it (in the US). The problem, of course, is resistance to vaccination.
In the US, anti-vaxx sentiment was largely left-coded until COVID when it shifted to being right-coded -- and expanded significantly. In Canada, anti-vaxx sentiment isn't so political. Instead, it's more religious-based, with large groups of Me
byswillden ( 191260 ) writes:
Your RFK Jr bogeyman doesn’t quite hold water here out in reality
You seem not to have paid attention to the news. Or perhaps the news you watch is incomplete.
The first thing RFK Jr. is doing to make vaccination harder is splitting the MMR vaccine into multiple shots. He wants to do the same with other combination vaccines. Triple the number of shots that kids have to get and you'll reduce the number of kids that get them all.
The second thing is that he's formally rescinding HHS' broad recommendation that all kids get vaccinated, saying that parents and pediatrician
byswillden ( 191260 ) writes:
You’re obviously dependent on bubble news. That’s extremely one sided interpretations.
Nope. I read all the news across the spectrum and specifically seek out viewpoints that differ from my own. I subscribe to Fox, regularly read the NY Post, etc. I'll grant that I rarely read OANN or Newsmax, and stay off of Twitter entirely (Nor do I use Bluesky).
I'll bet you were unaware of the vaccine splitting or the rescinding of the vaccination recommendations, weren't you? You should try reading outside of your own bubble.
bylaughingskeptic ( 1004414 ) writes:
Next year's measles numbers will be even "better". Polio is showing up in wastewater in some of the few places where this surveillance is done. Welcome to the 1950s. If we keep this up, preventable childhood disease deaths could rise from 3 last year to take the crown from the over 1200 gun deaths of children a year in the U.S. in a few years thanks to the power of exponentials.
bySlashythenkilly ( 7027842 ) writes:
If there was ever a vaccine that cured autism, these morons would be more screwed than a jehovas witness child needing a blood transfusion.
byKwirl ( 877607 ) writes:
leopard, meet face.
bydfghjk ( 711126 ) writes:
Let's not forget that this has happened because people like you voted for a rapist and pedophile for President. One thing we can count on is that your "theory" will never be that you're to blame.
byambrandt12 ( 6486220 ) writes:
Got proof?
I want multiple articles, not just from the same website. And, not some super anti-Trump personal blog, or just Fark.
If you can prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt, we'll all jump on board... agreed?
bySlayer ( 6656 ) writes:
As others have already pointed out to you elsewhere (with little effect it seems): yes, anti-vax used to be a left wing hippie thing, which was always considered fringe and never went mainstream there. Contrast this with the right, where Trump himself was in charge of getting the covid vaccine developed, praised it and got vaccinated, only to surrender to a torrent of lunatics demanding otherwise and effectively forcing him to change the tune. I can not remember an anti vaxxer running the show in HHS for th
bykenh ( 9056 ) writes:
Has RFK, jr actually changed the measles vaccine requirement? No, he didn't.
It's interesting that nearly half of all measles cases are in the stat of Texas - why look, Texas, like EVERY OTHER JURISDICTIOn in the U.S. Texas requires measles vaccines. [immunize.org]
This doesn't seem to be an issue where the current administration changed anything related to measles vaccines, perhaps this has to do with the millions of recent visitors that crossed into the U.S. from places where everyone wasn't vaccinated?
byKermodeBear ( 738243 ) writes:
Let's not allow facts to get in the way of The Narrative of "Orange Man Bad."
The Slashdot comments section used to be a lot better than this 20 years ago. Now TDS will turn a Linux kernel update story into rabid Trump hate fest. It's ridiculous.
bySlayer ( 6656 ) writes:
Has RFK, jr actually changed the measles vaccine requirement? No, he didn't.
There are serious considerations to remove all vaccine requirements, which could create changes in liability insurance for vaccine side effects (yes, they exist, but are still a good trade for all the side effects of the actual disease they prevent), and also in insurance coverage of these (sometimes expensive) vaccines. Yes, the discussion about this is ongoing, but it's clearly visible where Kennedy is trying to take this. He is quite open about this.
byZorroXXX ( 610877 ) writes:
Has RFK, jr actually spewed out TONS of misinformation and antivaxx propaganda? Yes, he did(1).
If you do not see any problem with the current administration I can only see three possible reasons, either you
●are extremely ignorant
●do not care because you (incorrectly) think it does not affect you (negatively)
●are chearing on because you think they are hurting the right people
Which is it?
(1)
https://apnews.com/article/robert-f-kennedy-vaccines-trump-rfkjr-7f8dcb25de76a5a70710d22bbc63f6fa/ [apnews.com]
https://time.com/7210943 [time.com]
bySlayer ( 6656 ) writes:
Yes, Trump saw which ways the winds were blowing with the loudmouths in his base. I don't have enough appendages to count how many times the Dems have also gone in on something stupid and/or self-destructive and corrosive to please their loudmouths.
Yes, libs have their own share of agenda driven "experts", and caused a lot of damage with their drivel. Some of their "experts" got enough traction to cause real damage (inflation thanks to UBI like covid payouts, increased public hostility to strangers thanks to stupid open border policy, downtown districts deteriorating thanks to open hard drug use, women's sport turning into a charade).
Still, the damage caused by the current agenda driven "experts" like "RFK's end vaccinations", "CBP/DHS chase the darki
bySvnLyrBrto ( 62138 ) writes:
For starters, there's what you said yourself: "used to be". You people sure do seem to be great about stealing the bad parts of the left for yourselves.
And also, you are conveniently leaving out the fact that even back when anti-vax BS was a defect of the left, it was never mainstream. They were always considered to be fringe whackadoodles and kept at arms-length from having any real power to force their idiocy on others. You flipped that script on that by putting anti-vax conspiracy-theorists and quacks
byBarsteward ( 969998 ) writes:
When you have idiot politicians spouting anti-vax rhetoric, the clueless public that vote for them only hear the headline and assume it's all vaccines. That's why politicians with a brain that works won't make stupid clickbait statements like RFK
byZorroXXX ( 610877 ) writes:
maybe your reaction is emotion, not fact-based?
So you want to appear to be very rational, right? And you want people to believe that you argue in good faith, right?
Well, are you able to form a sound and formally valid argument [wikipedia.org] that contains the phrase "no one has changed the measles vaccine requirement in 2025" and a corresponding conclusion?
byDeanonymizedCoward ( 7230266 ) writes:
Yeah, and Trump was a Democrat for a while too, even quoted saying that he was a Democrat because the economy seems to do better under Democrats.
These people are all just grifters and they're going where they feel the easiest marks are.
I might go so far as to say this applies to all politicians, not just the current crop of incompetents and batshit loonballs.
byfluffernutter ( 1411889 ) writes:
After Trump one, Canada's right wing became very emboldened. Perhaps this one is on anti-science believing people in general, but it sure doesn't help the situation with Trump as president.
bydryeo ( 100693 ) writes:
You brought up Canada and our measles problems. More accurate would be to bring up Alberta and their measles problems. While 80% of Canadians hate Trump, Alberta is planning a referendum on leaving Canada this year and the separatists want to become a State. They're in Washington asking the American government to recognize their independence on referendum day if 50%+1 vote yes. The law in Canada says an independence referendum needs a clear victory, perhaps 60%+, there's no number in the legislation, just a
byEnder_Wiggin ( 180793 ) writes:
And the other half are unvaccinated Americans who visit abroad and bring it back, infecting whole communities.
bydrinkypoo ( 153816 ) writes:
What's your evidence that's where it came from?
bykenh ( 9056 ) writes:
The CDC says Texas had over 800 cases, as for the travelers bringing the virus home from overseas, I don't have an answer
bydrinkypoo ( 153816 ) writes:
I appreciate your honesty. Our vaccination rates are very poor. Even if they are being brought in from another country, we can solve the problem with more vaccination. Should people be forced? I'm conflicted. I would far prefer we convince people, including providing education.
byArchieBunker ( 132337 ) writes:
It's pointing out stupidity. We're making 19th century diseases great again!
bytest321 ( 8891681 ) writes:
Most people care at least a little bit about others. But even if you're extremely self-centred and really only care about yourself, think that any strain on health services will increase insurance and healthcare costs for all of you fools.
byhyades1 ( 1149581 ) writes:
There are people who don't have a choice about being vaccinated, fuckwit.
bySvnLyrBrto ( 62138 ) writes:
Some people actually *can't* be vaccinated for legitimate medical reasons, like being immunocompromised or allergies such as egg proteins... not "A former MTV dating show dating show host and some 'mommy blogs' told me they're a conspiracy to give my kid autism." or "My imaginary friend who lives in a cloud told me they make his baby son cry."
People who legitimately cannot be vaccinated rely on herd immunity to... you know... not die.
byMspangler ( 770054 ) writes:
Sadly the Democratic Party does not have working economic or Health Care policy either. Nor can the Democratic Party govern. Letting repeat criminals out time and time again certainly doesn't help. See Iryna Zarutska and this very recent case in Seattle. Note that no guns were used either time.
"Fale Pea, 42, is charged with first-degree assault, which includes a deadly weapon enhancement. Pea was armed with a wooden board that had a screw through one end and used it to strike Jeanette Marken in the face, ac
byMspangler ( 770054 ) writes:
Amendment to previous post:
I know of two possibly viable heath insurance reform plans, viable in the sense that they might work. One is Karl Denninger's here;
https://market-ticker.org/akcs... [market-ticker.org]
The other one is basically Medicare for all Paid For with a 20% VAT. Note the VAT solves the tariff problem too since the WTO does not consider a VAT to be a tariff. So the price of everything other than rice and beans goes up 20% but health care is now covered and insurance companies are wiped out which is good riddanc
bydrinkypoo ( 153816 ) writes:
You're talking to a bot that's talking to itself.
byArchieBunker ( 132337 ) writes:
Propaganda and dogma has cooked your brain. You're trying to justify that this is fine because the death toll isn't that bad? At one time this disease was declared eradicated. We did it, we won. But then backwards politics and constant scare propaganda has individuals like yourself making such asinine statements. You say "news" but by far the most watched news if Fox. Making them mainstream by definition. https://www.tvinsider.com/1234... [tvinsider.com]
Measles is a terrible and completely avoidable disease that can leaves
byswillden ( 191260 ) writes:
How many people died from this scary, life threatening decease?
Three, but do you know how many died in 2024? In 2023? In 2022? And so on? Prior to this year, our last measles death was in 2015. Before that it was 2003. Since the late 60s, America's measles death rate has been tiny.
But this measles epidemic is just getting started. If it continues as-is measles will (once again) become endemic to the US next year, and assuming current vaccination rates (91.6%) continue, researchers project that we can expect 850k cases and ~10k deaths over the next 25 years. But
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