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1 Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment  
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2 Phrasing  
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3 African Origin  
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4 Calabash noodle soup  





5 American origins of calabash  
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6 How big is a calabash?  
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7 USDA profile for Black Calabash  
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8 WikiProject Food and drink Tagging  
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9 Mate in South America  
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10 Intro:  
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11 Southern Chinese  
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12 L. siceraria versus L. vulgaris  
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13 Confusion with Crescentia alata (Mexican calabash)?  
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14 seems contradictory  
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15 External links modified  
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Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment

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This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 25 January 2021 and 14 May 2021. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Soapymug.

Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignmentbyPrimeBOT (talk) 16:32, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Phrasing

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The first paragraph from the history section borrows really heavily from the linked peer-reviewed source. Can this information be better paraphrased? Soapymug (talk) 04:38, 11 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

African Origin

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Someone should include the new studies that show that apparently the calabash in South America did indeed come from Africa and not from Asia http://news.sciencemag.org/biology/2014/02/scientists-solve-mystery-world-traveling-plant — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.60.165.150 (talk) 11:05, 11 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]


Calabash noodle soup

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I moved this recipe from the article, thinking it should eventually make its way to the cookbook. — Pekinensis 15:49, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Calabash noodle soup (Chinese: 葫蘆麵or葫子麵) is a Chinese dish composed of cooked calabash, shredded meat, noodles, and soup. The following is a rough outline for creating the dish.

American origins of calabash

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According to the book The Peoples And Cultures of Ancient Peru by Luis G. Lumbreras, Lagenaria siceraria has american origins. The remains of this plant has been found by archaeologists in Tamaulipas, Mexico in contexts dating back 7000 years.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.116.207.246 (talk) 00:31, 20 July 2007

There are new research results concerning the origin of calabash, it seems to have an African origin. I complemented this article with an according part out of the featured hungarian Lopótök article. Karmela (talk) 12:32, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Genetic analysis shows that the American gourd is closest to the Asian sub-species, which is itself related to the African sub-species, and probably derived from it. This analysis strongly supports the hypothesis that the gourd was an early domesticate which came with the first migrants from Asia to the Americas. It has been found along the Pacific coast of the Americas, used as a float for fishing nets. Tmangray (talk) 21:01, 17 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just a comment on above. More recent work shows the American gourd is "closest", genetically, to the African. Which brings the evidence back to favor immediate Africa ancestor(s). A genetic analysis of DNA has to be interpreted with caution. There's no one "scale" which can be used to rank "closeness". At the largest scale chromosomes can be compared. Then, there's the number of genes, the non-coding DNA, transposons, single-nucleotide mutations, additions, and deletions, multi-nucleotide mutations, deletion, copies and additions. Not to mention evolutionary convergence, or lateral gene transfer. But, we can hope that the researchers are using the best available methods to determine "closeness" since usually their goal is, in part, to determine the hereditary lineage for the organism in question. The evidence is sometimes clear, but often closeness is a "best guess". FWIW.98.17.181.251 (talk) 13:47, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

How big is a calabash?

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the Sherlock Holmes's pipe reference made me think that they're only a few centimeters in size, but to be used as a canteen or a bowl, they must be more like 15-20 centimeters in diameter. How big are they? --85.116.207.246 00:31, 20 July 2007 (UTC) Calabash has an extrem diversity in form and size. Karmela (talk) 12:34, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

USDA profile for Black Calabash

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Is this just a naming coincidence?? I found it on the USDA website.

Amphitecna latifolia

http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=AMLA4&photoID=amla4_001_ahp.tif —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.19.151.13 (talk) 06:15, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Mate in South America

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"In Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, and Brazil, calabash gourds are dried and carved into mates, the traditional container for the popular caffeinated tealike drink (also called mate)" In Brazil the recipient for drinking mate is called cuia, not mate! Is it different in Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay? As the text is, it seems it's called that way in Brazil but it's not. Flavio Costa (talk) 16:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Intro:

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Should Lagenaria siceraria and opo be mentioned and bolded in the introduction as alternate names? ChildofMidnight (talk) 08:15, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Southern Chinese

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If this is used in southern Chinese cuisine, shouldn't the Cantonese name be available? The current term is Mandarin 65.93.13.210 (talk) 08:23, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

L. siceraria versus L. vulgaris

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I found a site, here, that states that L. vulgaris is a synonym, but it doesn't identify which of its sources in the site's bibliography is the reference for this. Can we still use it, though?--Mr Fink (talk) 21:08, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Confusion with Crescentia alata (Mexican calabash)?

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This article claims that Calabash, under the name of morro seedorjicaro, is used to make certain forms of horchata, but the article on Crescentia alata, or Mexican Calabash, makes the same claim.

To add to the confusion, the article on horchata links to both this article and to Crescentia alata.

I wonder if the connection between Calabash and horchata is spurious. Frappyjohn (talk) 09:39, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The picture in the History section also looks like the wrong Calabash, to an untrained eye at least.

seems contradictory

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this "This apparent domestication source plant produces thinner-walled fruit that, when dried, would not endure the rigors of use on long journeys as a water container" and this "Today's gourd may owe its tough, waterproof wall to selection pressures over its long history of domestication" Appear contradictory. Am I missing something? 89.243.34.80 (talk) 10:27, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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