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I noticed that nobody was talking about a foiled coup yesterday in Ukraine that major news outlets are talking about so I decided to make a page for it, I feel that this is just as notable as any other coup and should be included in the news.Scu ba (talk) 00:46, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose There have been a few assassination plots targeting the president as well over the past 2 years. And I believe there was a coup plot foiled shortly before the war. So unless something is at least attempted, like in Bolivia, I don't think it's worth posting. Scaramouche33 (talk) 05:05, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Seventy-six more deaths and at least 500 hospitalizations in Japan are linked to use of red yeast rice supplements distributed by Kobayashi Pharmaceutical, causing kidney disease and other severe conditions. (Asahi TV)
Australia issues statements to several social media and search engine websites ordering the websites to draft and enforce guidelines to prevent minors from seeing inappropriate material before October 3 or face national restrictions. (Reuters)
I guess the article needs work to be understandable to non-experts and should highlight more about the new discovery, but I think this is a big deal for computer science and mathematics. It's been 41 years since progress was made on this problem, it closely relates to the limits of mathematical knowledge and mathematical proof, it was a big online volunteer collaboration over several years, and it's one of the first new mathematical results to be formalized in a proof assistant contemporaneously with its announcement (which helped other mathematicians be more confident more quickly that the result was correct). It's also very likely the largest Busy Beaver number that humanity will ever be able to discover. So this is potentially the only progress on this problem that Wikipedia will ever be able to announce! Schoen (talk) 23:25, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Wow! Didn't follow it too closely, I'm surprised it was actually discovered. Science at ITN is always great, and, as Schoen says, this is likely the largest Busy Beaver number we'll be able to discover (for two-state Turing machines at least). Not only does the state space grow very fast, but these numbers are inherently uncomputable, meaning you can't just throw more computing power to find them, you need to go through mathematical proofs for each Turing machine. By the way, for anyone curious, the number is 47 176 870. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:46, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A lower bound on the sixth Busy Beaver number is 10⇈15, or 1010...15 times...10. Needless to say, we don't have enough space in this universe to even write it down. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 23:49, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose primary because the target article is terribly undersourced and is the symptom of being far too technical for an encyclopedia. Besides that, I'd like to see at least either a peer-review article or a more mainstream news source covering this, because as the Quantum article points out, this is more a curiosity than a breakthrough in mathematics. --Masem (t) 02:00, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Target article is extremely poorly sourced (indeed, the main paragraph explaining it has precisely zero sources) and is not written in anything like an accessible manner; we do not expect technical articles to be dumbed down but even the introduction to this article makes assumptions that the reader knows what a halting Turing machine, its "states", or transition tables are. It is unfortunate that a lot of computer science articles are like this. Black Kite (talk)09:02, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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One interesting thing about this succession is that Schoof is not part of the coalition party. Mark Rutte was PM for 13+ years, will serve as the next SG of NATO (1 October), which was just made official on 26 June. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me.19:45, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support It's interesting that he's not just not a member of the coalition parties but that he's not an elected politician. Instead, he's a civil servant and previously in charge of the security service. Deep state needs a section for the Netherlands... Andrew🐉(talk) 21:42, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support because he succeeded 13-year incumbent Mark Rutte, and this concludes government appointment from the November 2023 Dutch election. JohnAdams1800 (talk) 23:39, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
A car driving the wrong way in central Seoul, South Korea, strikes pedestrians waiting at a traffic light, killing nine people and injuring four others. (AP)
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Oppose Traffic accidents involving private vehicles are not the type of thing that should even be covered in WP per NEVENT, much less ITN. --Masem (t) 05:09, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Comment: The more extensive the credits, the more pain in sourcing. Needs more citations all over. Just watched Chinatown too. -- Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me.02:54, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
You're both right. This is just as recurrent as the election item and just as subject to not getting posted after a discussion. It all depends who discusses what and how from here out. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:06, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Alt2 Article is of decent quality, and we should post this as the election itself didn't get posted. I would suggest posting alt2, as the first two blurbs don't actually say how he became the president, only that he is now the president. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:20, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I thought about nominating this article. One notable aspect about this hurricane is that it is the earliest Category 4 Category 5 on record in the Atlantic Ocean. If this gets posted, this information might be worth mentioning in the blurb. I have proposed an alt (which might need some tweaks). --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me. 21:21, 1 July 2024 (UTC) Updated alt. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me.16:53, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait/Oppose. Full impacts aren't known yet, however the article body does not yet substantiate the "extensive damage" claim at the moment. The record, while interesting, is very much trivia, and a record for being category 4 is obscure. Cat 5 maybe we can talk, but not a category 4 record. DarkSide830 (talk) 21:36, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait until we know more about the human impact of the storm. It's early in the season, and both this storm and other storms may yet cause more damage. As it stands, I'd oppose, but I don't want to pre-empt things as the situation develops. GenevieveDEon (talk) 21:59, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait For the most part, breaking specific intensity records don't warrant inclusion here. It might merit inclusion depending on impacts/ TornadoLGS (talk) 02:32, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait: Per others. At time of writing this, further land impacts are likely to occur in the coming week per the NHC forecast and model guidance. The full extent of this storm's impact has yet to be seen. Comment: Additionally, Beryl has recently attained category 5 intensity, breaking Hurricane Emily's record for earliest cat 5 storm in basin, though it is not expected to impact any land as a cat 5 storm. ArkHyena (talk) 07:41, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait for impacts to be known, and for potential subsequent landfalls. While it is true that this storm is remarkable from a meteorological perspective, ITN posts based on the real world effects a storm has on populated areas. It is still very possible it could warrant posting in the future, but not right now. Vanilla Wizard 💙12:32, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait/Oppose A large hurricane in the middle of the ocean that isn't forecasted to make another landfall until it weakens substantially due to a significant amount of sheer in its path isn't quite notable enough for blurbing. Let's see what develops over the next few days. Kcmastrpc (talk) 14:02, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree on waiting, but just want to clarify that this isn't accurate according to current forecasts. It's expected to slam into Jamaica at major hurricane intensity tomorrow. Vanilla Wizard 💙14:18, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Support Blurb truly a transformative figure and one of the greatest writer of our time and thank god, it has an legacy section that helps understand his impact. PrinceofPunjabTALK13:58, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb Can’t say I’m familiar with him, but the legacy section defines his elevated significance quite well, and we did blurb Milan Kundera not that long ago. TheKip(contribs)15:32, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support Blurb on notability Murnane, Munro, McCarthy, Byatt, Oe, Auster, Amis, Kundera, Barth ... Out of all the notable literary deaths of the past two years, Kadare was one of the greatest. There's a bibliography, so you know what that means. Sincerely, Dilettante16:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So many passing recently, you’re right. I could argue (unsuccessfully of course) that all those you mentioned, except for A. S. Byatt and Martin Amis, should’ve gotten blurbs. Along with Louise Glück, who died last year and should‘ve gotten a blurb. Gerald Murnane (who you mentioned) is still alive I think, but I think he may deserve a blurb, too. I haven’t read anything by him yet. I think only Kundera got a blurb. And Paul Auster didn’t even get his RD posted, though it was ready to go on the last day of the deadline. Trauma Novitiate (talk) 04:10, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Murnane was a slip on my part. I think I meant Maryse Condé, another blurb-worthy figure IMO. There was a similar burst of deaths just under a decade ago, with Umberto Eco, Marquez, Le Guin, Toni Morrison, etc all within a few years. For my part, I'd support Amis as a prominent public intellectual if not for the fact that it would SNOW. There was a push for an Auster blurb, but it was shut down. Even I opposed that because in the US he's a fairly well-known and unique but, in Europe (especially France), he's just a particularly skilled author of Nouveau romans. His influence was low relative to his popularity.
Support blurb after fixing quality issues this is exactly what we should expect for a blurb able RD, an extensive discussion in the article about how they are a great figure. And this is a person I have not heard of but the type of person we should be highlighting at RD. Obviously there's an orange tag and a few smaller quality problems to be fixed before posting. Masem (t) 17:26, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I tried to address the outstanding CN tags in the article. Sourced or put an ISBN for the English translations, but I do not have the time to source the complete works in Albanian. -- Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me.20:19, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Old Man Dies One sentence update about a Tirana hospital, years of ill health and reaching 88. Mundane obituary stuff. Big deal in the literary life, sure, but his death doesn't affect that in any way whatsoever worth adding to his Career section. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:45, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
'Old Man Dies' is an obnoxious response to proposed stories of this kind. You're saying more about yourself than about the news by your repeated use of it. GenevieveDEon (talk) 22:00, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Old Man Dies is simply shorthand for the repeatedly shot-down sorts of obituaries that keep popping up around here, as if they're legitimate media events. There's no state funeral, no plausible sidebar potential and generally no reason to stay posted for a week or more alongside earthquakes, sporting celebrations and scientific breakthroughs. Especially where dozens of other notable recent dead cycle along underneath in the meanwhile, for doing the exact same thing. If you want to try and psychoanalyze an author of my depths from a mere quip, "be my guest", but you're going to get a lot wrong. I suppose I should say I was wrong about an RD not affecting literary life, because several non-readers here seem to suddenly think Kadare's someone worth thinking about reading. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:22, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I mean people who haven't read a book by Kadare. Several of us said here we hadn't even heard of him, implying what that does. I certainly didn't lump you into that crowd, given your vote. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:07, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb Influential in his field (kinda think Munro should’ve been blurbed too but oh well). Article could be updated a bit better to reflect his death / reactions. TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 21:22, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Support Blurb - I'm not an expert, but the article seems to support well, with citations, the proposition that he was a genuinely outstanding figure in the literary world. GenevieveDEon (talk) 22:00, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb Don't know about this guy (maybe I should?) but apparently he was "one of the greatest writers and intellectuals of the 20th and 21st centuries." I guess that's pretty solid. Bremps...23:51, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb. Surprised to learn that he was the author of The Ghost Rider, which, of course was later made into a major motion picture starring Nicolas Cage. Hyperbolick (talk) 01:37, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb – I agree that this article is very impressive. Very well-written, inclusive, and clearly establishing that Kadare is a great story-teller deserving of his acclaim and international readership. I had not even an inkling about any of this until just now, after I read the Wikipedia article which is close to being ready to be posted as an RD. A few minor issues such as the ISBN’s that Classicwiki mentioned already. - Trauma Novitiate (talk) 03:38, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support blurb. His article explains well why he is blurb-worthy, though I don't think the update is sufficient to post just yet. ~~ Jessintime (talk) 15:29, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose blurb. I find it dubious that a person whom not many know is blurbed just because his peers praised him, while many people whom everyone knows, like Donald Sutherland, Christopher Plummer, Kirk Douglas and Olivia de Havilland, Cormac Maccarthy, Vangelis, to a lesser extent William Hurt, Angela Lanesbury, Harry Bellafonte.
He hasn't even got a Nobel Prize, we didn't blurb a great many guys who had one.
I don't think he is that transformative, I don't know his books, they weren't adapted to the screen notably.
I would regard Vangelis as top musician, Cormac Maccarthy as accomplished writer, Donald Sutherland and Christopher Plummer as character actors, William Hurt as powerful dramatic actor. Lanesbury was first nominated for Oscar 80 years ago. Bellafonte was devoted activist. And Havilland and Douglas were just legends. Still are. BilboBeggins (talk) 20:54, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How influential are those actors? I've never heard an actor say『I saw William Hurt in Lost in Space and it was revelatory—it completely changed the way I act.』At most actors are inspired by each other; it's rare their styles shift much. On the other hand, it's common for popular authors to cause significant shifts in the literary style du jour or the themes most covered.
Whether a death is still in the news by the time it's posted depends on popularity, though. That's the more important thing, blurbwise. Notability just determines whether the biography exists. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:48, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
But enduring popularity across globe is notability.
I regard as the problem that in a competitive field top or upper tier representatives won't be considered, only top top top ones, while in a sport the best known player will be considered good enough for blurb.
81 wiki page for Sutherland, 30 for Willie Mays, 30 for Shane Warne, around 40 for Jim Brown at the time of death.
This all hardly makes sense.
I would assume blurb deaths are for cases where a person is so well known that it is news that they died, and everyone should know about it, and Wikipedia spreads this information. As in cases of Pele, Queen Elizabeth II, Sidney Poitier, Pope Benedickt XVI. BilboBeggins (talk) 20:50, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If we're going to use "popularity across the globe" as the new criteria for death blurbs, why stop there? Let's apply popularity across the board at ITN! New PM in the Netherlands? Who cares! Taylor Swift's outfit malfunctioned during a concert in Ireland! Kim Kardashian just renovated her luxury villa! Let's please focus on the really popular news. Khuft (talk) 21:36, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
WP does not consider fame or popularity as part of notability, because that feeds into the systematic bias of English and Western topics. We are an encyclopedia, the main page meant to displace high quality encyclopedic articles, and in this case, a person that has a thoroughly established legacy and impact on literature, an ideal encyclopedic topic, even if one hasn't heard of them before. Absolutely meets what we want the main page to reflect. Masem (t) 22:55, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
More specifically, we're an English encyclopedia. Most English readers and writers exist in or know of this "Western world" of internettable common knowledge; these have always been the sort of people we work with and for. Anyway, I'm pretty sure I've reminded you of this recently and it had no effect, so I'll just suggest "globularity" for this newfangled metric (assuming Khuft isn't kidding about that topless news in Ireland). InedibleHulk (talk) 04:48, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The key of what I'm saying is that just because the majority of readers and editors of en.wiki likely have not heard of this author because of being outside the normal English/Western sphere of influence (and I'm in that boat of having no idea who he was), should absolutely not be a valid point of opposition becasue that runs against the fact we cover all topics globally. The same argument, in reverse, came up with the Willie Mays blurb, in that he was a figure likely known to most American readers and editors but not to other parts of the world - but still demonstrated why he was a great figure in the field of baseball. Masem (t) 04:58, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Now you're getting en.wiki (the thing that covers all topics globally) mixed up with "us" (WP:ITN, a tiny speck within the whole, where Western news comes first). This is hopeless. You win! InedibleHulk (talk) 05:24, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose blurb. Come on, really? Blurbs are not for this kind of person, no offence to him, he led a noteworthy and accomplished life. But RD exists for us to list deaths. — Amakuru (talk) 22:41, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose blurb, support RD only This is what RD is for. While Kadare may have been somewhat transformative in a field, he wasn't transformative on a world stage like many state leaders or even top-tier sports stars. And even in literature, he doesn't reach the notability of, say, Stephen King. 1779Days (talk) 07:34, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(Closed) New Indian Criminal Code comes into effect[edit]
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Oppose I wondered what "Bharatiya Nyaya Sanhita" meant as I don't speak Hindi. The nominated article doesn't tell me so I have to go to Google Translate to find that it means "Indian Judicial Code". My impression is that this is much the same as before with the usual offences of theft, murder, etc. It's just that everything has been rewritten in Hindi rather than English, right? But this is the English language Wikipedia and so the topic is more suitable for हिन्दी विकिपीडिया. Andrew🐉(talk) 13:23, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose I am an Indian and I would say that this is not something worth mentioning in the ITN. Almost all the rules and laws are same expect for few notable exceptions. This is not something that is changing India drastically. Also, picture of the constitution has got nothing to do with it. PrinceofPunjabTALK13:36, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The article does not make it seem like much has changed through the new code. It does have a criticism section, but the criticism about new changes the code has seems to be limited to ambiguous phrases it introduces. Gödel2200 (talk) 14:23, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) Sam Mostyn as new Governor-General of Australia[edit]
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Oppose good faith nom. Kind of a ceremonial stand in for the head of state. The prime minister holds the power and technically King Charles III is the head of state. So I'm not seeing any real significance here. -Ad Orientem (talk) 04:08, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as the governor-general is mostly a ceremonial role. As the lead of the article says: "In almost all instances the governor-general only exercises de jure power..." Gödel2200 (talk) 14:52, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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(Closed) United States President granted criminal immunity[edit]
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Oppose — This is a standard and expected ruling that has no personal significance to the country, unlike Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization. elijahpepe@wikipedia (he/him)14:39, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose because it's an ongoing event as part of a larger legal process (Trump indictments) and wasn't a conviction or acquittal like the New York trial. It's not suitable for ITN. JohnAdams1800TALK15:36, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support because of the immense significance of this decision. ITN has had an anti-US bias that prevents most posters on here from recognizing the obvious importance of extremely significant news stories for far too long, and the opposition expressed above to one of the most noteworthy Supreme Court decisions in the lifetime of anyone reading this is an exceptionally good illustration of that. IntoThinAir (talk) 16:32, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose both the topic and the blurb. The decision is more nuanced than described in the blurb. And ElijahPepe is correct that this is not a "major upset" (to use sports jargon). EvergreenFir(talk)16:41, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose since this goes back to lower courts to rule what actions are or aren't immune now, which most pundits I've seen will still leave some of the table. If anything, the three decisions to nuke the administrative state (Jarsky, Loper Bright, and corner Post) are actually far more impactful but even then not ITN worthy material. Masem (t) 17:30, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Sri Lankan politician. Been in the parliament for 6 terms, and as opposition leader for 1 term. Vestrian24Bio (TALK) 02:21, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, was. So far, his article doesn't seem to reflect that he was a supposedly transformative figure, but it might just be due to omissions. Bremps...03:38, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose blurb, leading the opposition in parliament for a term isn't really blurb-worthy. If a blurb has to be chosen, altblurb 3 is the most concise and fluff-free. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 03:03, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose blurb Nowhere close to the expected type of coverage/content to describe being a "great figure" in Sri Lanka politics. Perhaps important being the opposition leader, but that doesn't equate to "great". --Masem (t) 03:44, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support RD The prose and citations are there for an RD mention; the very few uncited statements are not controversial. A blurb is obviously not going to happen and is not worth discussing. -- Kicking222 (talk) 08:25, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose blurb - I don't think we'd generally consider a blurb for a politician who had never actually led a nation or government from any country. I wouldn't, at least. Politics is an important field, as I often say, but this isn't being at the top of it. GenevieveDEon (talk) 22:02, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose blurb With all due respect, subject simply does not reach the significance for a death blurb. Article looks good for RD, though. TheKip(contribs)03:24, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
M23 rebels take control of Kayna, Luofu, Kanyabayonga, and surrounding areas after heavy fighting with FARDC. Almost the entire population of Kanyabayonga, including refugees it had taken in from Rutshuru, flee the rebel advance. The town is considered a pathway to the cities of Butembo and Beni. (Radio Okapi)(VOA)
Technically it isn't, as ITNELECTIONS only lists changes in the holder of office as ITNR, whereas this is a reelection. However, it should be ITNR, and there is ongoing dicsussion on how we should amend ITNELECTIONS. Gödel2200 (talk) 13:13, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The article doesn't mention what group (if any) the attackers were a part of, and it is currently too barebones to be posted to the main page. Gödel2200 (talk) 14:14, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose for now Who, what, where, when, why and how? What, where, when and how are answered, leaving who and why (though we have a pretty good guess). Ping me if both are answered, if so, I'll support this being posted as this is a major attack. Bremps...02:54, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
princess widow of King Hassan II, mother of the current King of Morocco Mohammed VI. Article is short (she had a very discreet role and it seems that little is known about her), but almost ready. _-_Alsor (talk) 10:34, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Mostly Support I don't have a problem with a creepy video still for an obscure quasiroyal figure, given the state of VHS recording even in Denmark at the time, but a section called Biography within a biography makes me strangely uneasy. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:52, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - Not ready for the front page. I tried following note 1, and it appears to be an OR justification of some of the terminology used elsewhere in that paragraph. GenevieveDEon (talk) 22:05, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You cannot say that the article is not ready because of an inconsistency in the note. If you don't think it's appropriate, it's deleted (it doesn't actually contribute anything). For the rest, what assessment do you make? _-_Alsor (talk) 16:56, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Article updated The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Support. Article seems well-cited (I spotted two CN tags, but they were for "self-evident" items that don't need an explicit single source) And there seems to be sufficient prose for each section. Overall rather well-done; good to see that much attention quickly: the number one cause of ITN/R sports stories going unposted is usually because the article remains a mess of tables with no cited prose. Good job on the editors to get this past that. Nottheking (talk) 20:45, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Italian tenor of international fame, had a stub of an article with 2 tags. There's still more in Italian if someone has the time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:08, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Good expansion. I do wish there was a little more on his impact/legacy and reviews or criticism of his work (although what I found was mostly negative). --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me.17:39, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
I cannot get to source #3, which is extensively used throughout the article. Could someone who can get to that source please archive it (e.g. to the Wayback Machine)? In addition, the date of birth is unreferenced. Schwede6619:49, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Support: Death is reliably sourced. Article is reasonably complete and well-referenced, with no major issues apparent, tagged, or mentioned on the talk page. jlwoodwa (talk) 04:55, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not ready, I CN tagged some the areas needing an inline citation -- usually when there was not a source after a couple of sentences. I do not doubt they are the same citations used elsewhere in the same section, but lots of factual claims being made without an inline follow up. Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me.05:11, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Wait The quality issues with the article have now been resolved, but we should wait until the full results are released. The article says: "The full official results will be officially presented by GEC within 14 days." so we should just renominate when they do get released. Gödel2200 (talk) 12:45, 2 July 2024 (UTC) Oppose due to a whole paragraph of unsourced information in the background section. Also, the lead of the article only states the preliminary results, so we may want to wait until the final results come out.Gödel2200 (talk) 02:21, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support unless it's been changed by now, but I don't see an unsourced background section paragraph, the article looks good. Scu ba (talk) 20:27, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Scu ba, see the end of the first and second paragraphs of the background section. The second paragraph is the one with no sources. Gödel2200 (talk) 20:50, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I see it now, looks like it was initially added in the .ru version which was then copied and translated to the .en version 01:52, 30 June 2024 (UTC) Scu ba (talk) 01:52, 30 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The U.S. Justice Department charges 193 people, including 76 medical professionals, with participating in healthcare fraud schemes totalling $2.75 billion, which include unlawful distribution of Adderall and fraudulent drug addiction treatment. (Reuters)
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Multiple paragraphs with zero footnotes. Filmography and Discography sections are largely unsourced. Please add more REFs. --PFHLai (talk) 15:22, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Nominator's comments: Former footballer who represented Cameroon at senior international level, and played for Nancy, Celtic and Bordeaux, among other clubs. Unfortunately, the article is still in poor shape, and might use some more citations, but it's definitely nothing "unfixable". Oltrepier (talk) 19:13, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Niger's ministry of defence announces three days of national mourning following yesterday's ambush of security forces near the village of Tassia in Tillabéri Region, which killed at least 20 soldiers and a civilian and injured several others. (Al Jazeera)
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
The infobox and stats table indicate that the subject represented his country on multiple occasions, but the prose lack materials on his international career. This gap in coverage needs to be filled. --PFHLai (talk) 15:10, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Article updated Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.
American politician: Louisiana House of Representatives and New Orleans City Council. Could do with a few more citations. --Classicwiki (talk) If you reply to me here, please ping me.16:08, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Political section is mostly election results as well as 2 sentences about an emails controversy; what else did Clarkson achieve or advocate for while in elected positions? SpencerT•C04:38, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article is already a little bit longer now, although it can still very much be improved. Given the importance and recency of the situation, it should be okay for posting. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 21:34, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support - it has a dozenWP:RS citations now. It's still a work in progress, but it's only a matter of time before this gets to the front page. A short amount of time, if you ask me. Kire1975 (talk) 21:40, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support, if leaning towards wait. The big question for that is the disposition/fate of Luis Arce, which so far no news seems to have reported. (e.g, was he not there? Did he escape? Did the coup capture him?) I suspect that we'll get an answer on that within a few hours anyway. As long as the articles remain as decently-cited as they are now, it should be good to post. Nottheking (talk) 22:21, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is a classic WAIT. If sucessful, then yes to posting. If it all fizzles out in a few hours with no or minimal loss of lives and the arrest of the soliders etc., then that's not something we normally (or should) post. -- KTC (talk) 22:29, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Troops have pulled out, so it likely failed, but it is still a notable event. If this happened in a similarly-sized country in Europe, it would absolutely have been posted. Chaotic Enby (talk · contribs) 22:47, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The long term historical record may be, but since the CIA stopped doing that sort of thing, they are rare in South America now too. HiLo48 (talk) 06:22, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Posted. There's enough unqualified support here for a consensus and quality seems OK now. Only the coup article bolded though, not the BLP per usual convention. — Amakuru (talk) 00:37, 27 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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A renowned Kazakh-born Russian poet, a founding member of the "Moscow Time" group of Soviet underground poets. Recipient of several notable Russian literary prizes, said to have been nominated for the Nobel prize.
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Oppose - total of one sentence in the entire bolded article referencing the news item. Not to get WP:CRYSTALBALL, but this is a symbolic move that likely will not have many consequences, similar to Putin's arrest warrant (other than restricting travel). In particular, the NYT article states, "That makes it highly unlikely that Mr. Shoigu and General Gerasimov will be taken into custody in the foreseeable future". Also covered by the Ongoing section; could be considered part of the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Finally, another article for the arrest warrants does not yet exist (as exists at International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Vladimir Putin and Maria Lvova-Belova), and including that article in the blurb, or at least mentioning the subjects of the warrants, would be more appropriate. Staraction (talk | contribs) 06:27, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The last time ITN was fooled into posting something like this, the most significant consequence was Main Page readers having to look at Putin smiling at them for an unreasonably (and perhaps uncomfortably) long time; I don't know what these guys look like, but I'm pretty anyone smiling in an official portrait is the entirely wrong look for this harmless-yet-ill-intended sort of news. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:56, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - As PrinceOfPunjab says, Putin was worth posting as head of state, but this is a subsidiary matter and not suitable for ITN. It very much falls under Ongoing. GenevieveDEon (talk) 11:03, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Support At this time of year, the lives of millions of students and their families around the world are dominated by such high-stakes examinations. This is clearly more significant than local sporting events, say, and so it's good to run a relevant item. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:19, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh what a mess. I think the main difficulty here is that there's no specific date tied to when this controversy began. Moreover, the article doesn't currently mention any real protests. I think mass protests would be a reasonable date to blurb this, but otherwise the current system of ITN is not really designed for slowly-increasing controversies. Article looks good tho, so I am open for improved blurb ideas. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 13:02, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Paper leaks and student protests are routine and recurring events in India. These have no large significance outside the country. — hako9 (talk) 18:20, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Fraudulent issues in the Indian education system are regular. This one has a more coverage than usual but it's still not ITN-worthy. Black Kite (talk)18:42, 26 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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