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Can I delete it through discussion only? thank youBablos939 (talk) 00:25, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
Dear Drmies
I will ask you a question not to repeat the same mistake.
(1) If a blocked user makes a large amount of illegal contributions over a long period of time, should it be discussed and deleted ?
(2) We had a discussion. and there is an agreement to delete a large amount of illegal content. But after the discussion, one user suddenly appears and keeps interrupting. Can we implement the agreement first and resume the discussion? Also, can I report a user who is interfering?
(3) 'regular editing process' : Does this mean a debate? Is there a set amount that can be deleted at once?
I'm sorry to bother you. Please reply. thank you Bablos939 (talk) 13:36, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
You keep talking about that blocked editor, who edited the article in 2018. The other two were active in 2011 and 2012: that's ages ago. I find it very disruptive for you to just drop in there and remove a huge amount of material that, for better or for worse, has been in there for a long time without talk page discussion. You started one, I see: good. BUT there also, I am not sure you will attract a lot of interest because your post is too detailed, too long, not clear enough--you pick up every single article problem and discuss it. That's not going to be very inviting to other editors. I mean, I see your point about excessive quotations--but there, for instance, you could have cut a number of them, explaining in your edit summaries (maybe individual edits for removing individual citations) what you were doing and why. Like, I don't know what this is, but you could explain that in an edit summary, if you're cutting it, why you are cutting it. Unreliable, POV, etc. That is all part of the normal editing process also. Cutting 107k with a very unclear edit summary, that is not. Good luck, Drmies (talk) 16:56, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
Hi Drmies, just for a change from MMA sourcing, I took a moment to peruse the contribution history of this IP. I'm thinking that a lengthy block along the lines of NONAZIs would be appropriate, but keen to get a second opinion. GirthSummit (blether) 17:41, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
I saw your reference to grading online midterm exams, and I feel your pain. Your pain is felt by me. It is the case that the pain you feel is also... argh. Sorry. Have a cupcake. bonadea contributions talk 20:42, 20 October 2020 (UTC) |
Could you help me out with this? It will be much appreciated. As expected, removing the country comparisons section on other articles has caused some resistance from other users. Thanks. Telsho (talk) 21:24, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
I happened to notice that you added Pending Changes Reviewer to your account back in February 2020. It seems redundant, since this is already included in the admin toolset. I'm just curious as to why you added it... Were you testing something, or is there a right in that user group that isn't included in the admin toolset? Anyways, I was just curious and thought I'd ask... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:48, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
There's edit-warring at Dimale. Editors Khirurg (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) and Alexikoua (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) are trying to force add a map via edit-warring (4 reverts between them in the past 24 hours). I made one revert and explained to them that the map is anachronistic because the settlements/tribes described in the map didn't live in the same era and it has many positioning mistakes, but they're still edit-warring to keep it in the article - although there is a WP:BRD which they should follow. The same situation of edit-warring is being replicated across many articles like Tomorr at this time. I think that it is spreading very quickly across the whole topic area and admin oversight needs to be established. Could you take a look? --Maleschreiber (talk) 17:44, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
I can come up with quite a few similar examples from you and your friends.See Drmies, the bigger problem is that nobody takes responsibility for their edits and when they are found out, they edit-war, make up excuses or derail debates which could be constructive into squabbles. --Maleschreiber (talk) 19:00, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
I went there first after I saw the ping, not realizing y'all had left posts here in 17 edits. I feel loved. Also, I'm not that interested in a half year's worth of history, by the way; the history of that article is not all that contentious. Khirurg, if you see this you will have seen that I reverted you--you are welcome to revert me IF you present an edit summary with a better argument, OK? BTW I wish I understood exactly what you all are fighting over, but somehow I get the idea that I won't easily get that. But Maleschreiber, if stuff is happening across articles, then maybe this should be a bigger thing--as soon as there is some agreement on precisely what the disagreement is. If all of this fighting is over a map, some project talk page is a better place to discuss it, or maybe it should be done via an official RfC with some notifications for involved editors... Drmies (talk) 19:29, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
In 1337 it was raided by Albanian tribes at the time they first appeared in Epirus.. The exact quote in the source, provided by Alexikoua, is
In 1337, the Albanians of Epirus Nova invaded the area of Berat and appeared for the first time in Epirus, seizing the fortresses of Skrepario, Timoro and Klisoura. This is entirely removed by Maleschreiber under the guise of "cleanup" [13], where he replaces the text with
In 1337, the Albanian tribes which lived in the areas of Belegrita (the region of Mt. Tomorr) and Kanina rose in rebellion and raided the fortress.. Here is the source Maleschreiber is using [14], and as you can see, the meaning is entirely changed, and you can probably guess why. No explanation is provided for the removal; it is simply hidden within the edit. This is the kind of POV-pushing that plagues these articles, all while the user who engages in it decries
"that sort of mentality". Khirurg (talk) 01:15, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
The Albanians from the regions of Valagrita and Kanina raided into (..). They plundered the Byzantine towns of Berat (..) and Tomor (Timoron), the same is on Nicol (2010). So, the area in which these tribes already lived is not the area which these tribes moved into. The part about Epirus is on the article in an expanded form:
These events marked the movement of these Albanian tribes into the Despotate of Epirus.I have removed nothing. Do a proper reading and research before jumping to conclusions. Thank you.--Maleschreiber (talk) 01:33, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
The Albanians in the district between Balagrita and Kanina had against risen in rebellion, in spite of the privileges which the emperor had recently granted themtquoteand in the footnote he explains
Balagrita lay in the region of Mount Tomor (Tomorit) near Berat
The Albanians from the regions of Valagrita and Kaninaand I wrote
In 1337, the Albanian tribes which lived in the areas of Belegrita (the region of Mt. Tomorr) and Kanina. Your contribution to that is "well, those from Kanina weren't from Tomorr, so invaded stands". Also, Kanina is a 50 mile drive from Berat. I changed Epirus to Despotate of Epirus because it refers to a particular polity (the Despotate of Epirus) and I removed the quote because similar sentences are already in the article. The only quote I added was the one you mentioned and I would remove that too because full quotes increase the article's size unnecessarily. Fine uses "raided" for the tribes of Berat/Kanina, not for the tribes to which I referred to in the article -read the chapter.
Plz see edits on Ritlal Yadav and WP:ARE...minor edits could have sorted the problem actually initially I relied on a hindi source which didn't made clear the cases against him.Later I corrected mistakes even then I was brought there by user who is offended for I counter him on other articles. Recently I fulfilled the demand of source he made there at ARE for allegation against subject regarding murder. It will be helpful if decision is taken soon.Heba Aisha (talk) 08:31, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Please see [15] The ban has since expired and the problem has started again with seven different IP's editing this article in an undesirable manner in the last 24 hours.Fleet Lists (talk) 10:58, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Thought you were going to protect this... Nuisance logged on to their account (strangely enough, has been around since February, so it's not "fresh" by any standard) and proceeded to vandalise the article, with the misleading summary "updated".
Attentively --Quite A Character (talk) 18:18, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
I see, but edit is not done in good faith when fancruft (i.e. "a penalty should not have been awarded against my team", boo hoo!) soils this or that article. Thanks for the assistance, nonetheless ;)
By the way, :@GiantSnowman: (admin who works almost exclusively in football) was notified of my actions in Mr. Ferreira's article and said that they were appropriate. --Quite A Character (talk) 08:03, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
In the passage, it is reported that the Dexaroi, a Chaonian tribe, dwelled under this mountain., which one editor asks for it to revert to
In the passage, it is reported that the Dexaroi, a Chaonian tribe of the northwestern Greek group Chaonian tribe, dwelled under this mountain.Now, its removal has led to the article getting tagged as POV. I've removed the tag once because I think that the specific identity of any group is irrelevant to a geographical article and because the topic itself is more complex for it to be handled on that article in one sentence (much of the TLDR of the discussion has to do with long quotes). As a side comment, I think that it's interesting that in terms of methodology the same issues appear whether one is discussing Albania or articles like the White Croats.--Maleschreiber (talk) 22:10, 23 October 2020 (UTC)
Remember cleaning up Shmuly Yanklowitz in 2016? It has been accreting fluff again (naturally). The self-published books are back, and the good works and accolades. Do you feel like taking a machete to it again? I'm starting to think it may need extended-confirmed protection. Bishonen | tålk 09:23, 24 October 2020 (UTC).
Hi Drmies - I think the editor you referred to here could be back in another guise. Bring back Daz Sampson (talk) 13:39, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
Sadko (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has three reverts[16][17][18]onKingdom of Serbia in relation to the events of Expulsion of the Albanians, 1877–1878. They are removing sources and claiming that contemporary author Zidas Daskalovski (who has written Minorities in nation-building processes: a view from theories of egalitarian liberalism) is "biased and nationalistic". There's a possible BLP issue in that claim, but the more urgent problem involves the edit-warring which has created a mess as in their efforts to push for a particular narrative the editor has mishandled every source that has been added with the explanation that - and I quote verbatim - Bunch of sentnece was placed randomly and it's disrupting the pleasure of reading.
I can't have a discussion on that basis. If you have some time, could you take a look?--Maleschreiber (talk) 01:28, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
means representing fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic.It doesn't mean that neutrality is based on your opinion vs. sources. Nobody claimed any territory as X in any article. Now, if you want to discuss that or
Albanians serving as mostly loyal Ottoman foot soldiers, I'm sure that there are other websites which allow for such articles.--Maleschreiber (talk) 03:29, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
Y’all, this is for ANI, or possibly ARE. I am not your admin on call for this kind of dispute. Good luck. Drmies (talk) 15:21, 25 October 2020 (UTC) Drmies (talk) 15:21, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
You spoilt my chance to post for Maxim, by closing! ((off-topic) But I thought you would have gone all Highlander and said "There can be only one!".) O well! Govvy (talk) 00:48, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
You've been mentioned in the news! Here's hoping we don't face too much chaos in the upcoming week. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 20:55, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
Hello! I am reaching out because I feel that my Wikipedia adventure is coming to a bit of a cap. While I enjoy trying to counter vandalism, I would like to have the administrative power to stop people from vandalism, not just reporting them. I am reaching out to you to get a second opinion on wanting to become an admin. My Wikipedia adventure has been varied, and I'm willing to try other things, but so far, my opinion has been that an admin's main job is to keep vandalism from destroying Wikipedia. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on being an admin, and whether or not I could be a suitable addition to the team. Thanks! Balon Greyjoy (talk) 00:34, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Regarding this edit, isn't it better to add a citation template than to revert an edit just because someone only left a bare URL? Thanks. --Jameboy (talk) 17:12, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
thank you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:27, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
Hey :) I need you to slow down undoing my work on the open data kit. We have been flagged for "irrelevance", so I am trying to establish that the platform is relevant and wiedly used. Please feel free to reorganize my data, but deleting it is something I find extremely unproductive and problematic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theb4ssm4ncometh (talk • contribs) 00:47, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
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Shenanigans at Abel Ferreira continue, in last reversion they reinstated wrong categories amongst other things (chances are they don't know how to revert or any thing, so just copy/paste; some cats have just recently been moved). With their vandalism, they somehow managed to contradict themselves, saying (WITHOUT a ref!) the manager had left PAOK while also being the manager of PAOK!
I have already reverted, and i fear any attempt at interaction with this person will amount to nothing. Happy weekend, congratulations for the cool mention at Wired --Quite A Character (talk) 15:46, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
Maybe you are interested in reading this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:GiantSnowman). WP:CIR at the highest level! --Quite A Character (talk) 21:01, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello. If you don't mind me asking, which "jab" at Andrew were you referring to exactly? Also, I don't see what was condescending about me saying "Uhhh, kind of like Phil reproduced his claims of racism in multiple discussions?", when the person I was talking to had said in the last discussion that no action was needed about Phil because he was just being taken out of context. When he had reproduced his comments in other places, but then told me I should sanctioned for reproducing my comments in other places. Pointing out a counter example and someone's inconsistency is not "condescending." I agreed that I can be sarcastic, that I probably respond to people more then I should, and that said I would work on both. Your characterizing me and my behavior otherwise is frankly a little hurtful and isn't a fair reading of the situation. I also don't think your whole thing about blocking me if there is further incivility is fair, because lots of people are pretty uncivil to me, I should be able to respond without fear of being blocked, and I sometimes I just have bad days. Plus, a lot of the claims of uncivility that people made weren't actually me being uncivil. I don't feel like getting blocked just because I'm sarcastic once and someone takes it out of context or I respond to someone that is being rude to me, who then reports me. Which is mostly what happened there. So, can you elaborate on what you were talking about? --Adamant1 (talk) 18:38, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
As for "lots of people are pretty uncivil to me, I should be able to respond without fear of being blocked, and I sometimes I just have bad days"--there is no value in that. You're just saying "if people are mean to me I can be mean back, especially if I'm having a bad day". It doesn't work that way. If you're having a bad day, you should stay away from company. And being insulted, or feeling insulted, is no excuse for insulting. I think you are mistaking "sarcasm" for "condescension", and I think you would be wise to tone it down everywhere, all the time, on good days and bad days. I have no interested in blocking anyone; we don't get paid for blocks. I'd rather see you look at the many comments by experienced users like Ritchie333 and Grandpallama and take them to heart. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 22:08, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
That doesn't mean my behavior is 100% solid all the time. I said I could tone it down. I don't think I'm mistaking "sarcasm" for "condescension" though. Your example of me saying "uuhhh" was 100% sarcasm. I say "uuhhh" all the time IRL because I'm a mouth breather and use filler words a lot. In no way is it "condescending" when I do. Rarely is it even sarcastic. I just don't feel like getting blocked for something like that. Especially if the people who are complaining about it are users that I've had repeated problems with and who were unwilling to resolve things civilly when I tried to. Plus, if you or another admin are telling me not to do something, and we fundamentally disagree that I'm doing what your saying I am, then that's an issue. I'm totally fine saying I've been sarcastic and that I could tone it down. I'm not going to accept that I've been condescending though. In no way do I think I'm superior to anyone. As far as Grandpallama goes, he intentionally miss-quoted people a couple of times just to continue arguments and accused me of being "lose with the truth." Which is clearly a lie. I've been pretty honest throughout this. Also, Ritchie333 was called out in several places by multiple users for being bias and retaliatory in relation to me. So, I'm going to take whatever "advice" they supposedly gave me with a grain of salt. I'm fine taking the advice of non-involved admins though. Just as long as it's clear advice. I would nitpick though that "experienced" users make bad calls sometimes. I rather listen to someone based on the strength of their argument. Not how long they have been here. You know, one of the things I've heard a bunch of times on here is how Wikipedia is trying to be more "inclusive." Which I agree with. There seems to be zero mindfulness about being "inclusive" when it comes to the unique ways different people speak in the world. Everything that's not said exactly how certain users think they should be said is "condescension" or "sarcasm", but a lot of the things I say like using the word "garbage" is just how I and the people around me speak. And we tend to be a little more sarcastic about things. It's not a slight though and it doesn't come from a place of condescension. It's just how I, and other people around me, talk IRL. Most of the time it's not even sarcastic. It's just the we use to describe things. Which I see nothing wrong with. --Adamant1 (talk) 23:00, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
Drmies, thanks for the ping and a good close. I suspect between the discussion at AN and the comments here, your advice will unfortunately fall on deaf ears. I ultimately found it too exhausting, and too counterproductive, to continue participating there after the last response to my comments (plus, there is no contest between arguing on Wikipedia on a Halloween weekend vs. turning off the computer to drink spiced cider while you pass out candy and watch the costumed kids romp through the neighborhood). A civility alert sounds like a good idea, especially since genuinely civil editors who receive a civility alert/reminder don't have anything to worry about. :) Grandpallama (talk) 02:29, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
It's quite simple. 1: Drmies is always right 2: When Drmies is wrong, see 1: Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 12:47, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Many thanks for your post on my talk page. I moved from England to Australia 30 years ago. I am certainly not too old for a beer, but the one thing I really miss from England is real ale. Australian beer is just fizzy rubbish to me, so I mostly drink Australian wine, which is great. I go back to England most years and enjoy real ale with my daughters, but such a visit is sadly not possible at the moment. Enjoy whatever wine or beer that is to your taste. I see that you are an Alabama Crimson Tide fan. I used to visit a colleague in Birmingham at UAB and loved being there. --Bduke (talk) 01:07, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
I am feeling rather under the weather so I will not be editing or commenting anymore today. I hope to see you soon at the talk page on Smithfield Foods. Lovelylinda1980 (talk) 01:06, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Something is nagging me about the person you mentioned recently here. I can't put my finger on it. If something does click, I will take it to the appropriate venue. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 17:03, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi Drmies. My name is Carter and I work for E Ink Corporation. I proposed the E Ink Corporation page be merged with E Ink through a formal merger proposal here. I was advised to be bold and merge the pages, but I didn't think editors with a conflict of interest were supposed to be bold. Hoping you might be willing to do the honors of merging the pages. CDaignault1 (talk) 19:09, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
I'd like to respectfully point out some concerns I have about the way you interacted with a user in the Russell Islands dispute, specifically because you are an admin.
1) In the DRN case, you accused the editor of "pick[ing] a fight with Diannaa". Of course you can use whatever language you like, but as an admin I'd like to suggest you be more respectful of other editors and assume good faith. As an outside observer I believe the editor was having a difficult time understanding User:Diannaa's determination and was pressing the point. To belittle his attempts to pursue his case as "picking a fight" with an admin is frankly inappropriate. Anyone, including an admin can choose to disengage. That's what she ultimately did: she told him to leave her alone and that she wasn't going to change her mind. That's her prerogative. When you belittled his efforts to pursue his concerns in the way you did, you de-legitimize his right to ask questions and to debate. He has a right to do that and as an editor you can disengage - but you shouldn't suggest he's wrong to question someone just because they're considered to be the ultimate authority. He wasn't breaking any policy. He was asking questions and debating. That's what talk pages are for. He doesn't need to salute the admins. It's your option to disengage if you don't like what he has to say. You are an admin, as is Diannaa, and you need to be more tolerant than that.
2) You comment in the DRN case that "the time has come for an uninvolved admin to determine whether NOTHERE applies for this editor" was completely inappropriate. Taking up an issue in a DRN case is every editor's right. It is encouraged as a way to resolve conflict. For you to make a threat like that in a DRN case is chilling. The implication is that by going over your head he can be punished. You think I'm exaggerating? This editor left a comment on my talk page expressing concern he was going to suffer retribution and that he might need to back out of the DRN. Maybe that's what you intended by making that remark, but that's not appropriate behavior for an admin. To instill fear in editors that they will suffer retribution for using appropriate channels to resolve conflict is downright damnable for an admin. I can't express that point in stronger terms. No editor, including you, is obligated to participate in a DRN case. If you didn't want to participate, all you had to do was to opt out. If you didn't make a summary statement, I would have closed the case for lack of participation. You chose to participate. And then to make a comment like that as an admin? I know you know that was wrong.
3) In the Russell Islands talk page, after the DRN case was already opened, you made a subsequent comment: "I assume that by now your specious DRN thread is closed." Again, this was an inappropriate comment for an admin to make. First you are accusing him of opening a "specious" DRN case. It's his right to pursue conflict resolution, even with admins. If you don't want to participate, then don't participate. To say a DRN case is "specious" undermines the venue itself. You know better. Furthermore you suggested that the case would be summarily closed when you had already chosen to participate in it. Again, this shows a complete lack of respect for process. The implication is that you know he can't get anywhere by seeking conflict resolution with admins - you know it's going to be closed because you're an admin and he has no recourse. You undermine the venue itself making comments like that. You also undermined my role as a DRN volunteer by suggesting I can't facilitate any meaningful dialog before I even had a chance to do so.
I'm speaking plainly and bluntly, and I hope you recognize my sincerity. We're all human, and we all make mistakes. As an admin, however, I think you have a special responsibility to take care in how you engage with editors, even if their behavior is uncivil (and I don't think he was being uncivil in this case). Moreover, you set an example for others to follow. That is critical for admins - other editors learn from your behavior. You should be setting a high bar. To undermine venues for conflict resolution and to threaten editors publicly as you did was disturbing to witness. I have been an editor in Wikipedia for a very long time, and I care about the community. Your thoughtless behavior as an admin diminishes the platform. You can do better. Coastside (talk) 08:06, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
You wrote "whole thing needs to be reviewed by an expert". Well, not to be overly arrogant, I know my African plants. Botanically the entire article is nonsense. The pictures are of 3 different, completely unrelated species - not tree lupine, which does not grow in Nigeria at all. The first two pictures look to me like Boscia senegalensis, and might be more useful there. The botanical text is toe-curlingly incorrect, the sourcing terrible. The common name/title is apparently invented by the seller of the herbal products who is being referenced 20x. There already is an article on Lupinus arboreus. I think the entire article should be deleted, no redirects. Regards, Leo Breman (talk) 15:42, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
I had already looked with concern to Matthew Josef, Bluejosef and Joseroyal. It was lod and clear that this was a cooperating cluster, non-responding whatsoever etc. But I never took real time to start digging into it. It like to thank you sincerely for escorting them out. The Banner talk 10:24, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
I come to you with the request to un-protect the article on Persia. There are a few citations I need to add there. There are too many topics that are introduced as ambiguous to it and need to disambiguate even if they refer to the same thing, but slightly different in name to different civilizations and even to modern English speakers. I can thank you in advance for anything you can do to help me unlock it.--Persian Lad (talk) 23:24, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
Hey- I saw you were looking at my Taiwan edits. I know what you are thinking- why should Wikipedia have a bajillionmillion cites on the Cianjin page?
Your edit: [19]
You wrote, "It is totally unclear what you are doing--adding a thousand references for a geographical./administrative name?"
In fact, I tried to answer the question you are asking before you even asked it. In the actual edit you removed, I wrote:
"Per WP:OVERCITE, "If there is a good reason to keep multiple citations, for example, to avoid perennial edit warring or because the sources offer a range of beneficial information, clutter may be avoided by merging the citations into a single footnote." Hence this bundled citation has been created. There is a perennial edit war on this page and others in which Tongyong Pinyin-derived names chosen for use by the local community are changed to Hanyu Pinyin-derived names. For example, on this page the following edits have shifted the name from Cianjin to Qianjin over the past decade or more: July 2009 March 2010 February 2017. On different pages without the protection of these citations, the name gets switched by IPs & c. all the time June 2020 August 2020. It may seem like a drastic remedy to add a large number of references here, but it seems clear that multiple sources in combination can demonstrate what Cianjin wants for itself and show that what Cianjin wants is not ignored by the world, bringing a final, conclusive end to the decade-long edit war."
I would like your help in determining exactly to move forward. Let me know if you have a different opinion on this, or can think of a different methodology for stopping the edit war situation, which will continue indefinitely. Thanks! Geographyinitiative (talk) 17:26, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
I don't know why you think this versionbyIntalk is the best one. Instead they were one of those trying to white wash the article and promote some non-RS source. They have removed properly sourced content supported by WP:RS sources like The Telegraph, Outlook, NDTV, etc and replaced it with an obscure non-RS source "NENOW" [20]. They have disruptively changed the birth date of the subject from 1974 to 70 which doesn't match with the inline source that was provided by me. The lead section is puffery ridden now with phrases such as "..such as blockbuster movie Yalgar; ..She began her acting career in Bollywood and acted in a few of the biggest Bollywood movies and in other language...
The Personal life section is totally unsourced/OR which writes "Nagma remains unmarried till date. In an interview with The Times of India, she said she would get married when she finds the right man.", but the source [21] doesn't mention anything about her personal life.
I have meticulously edited and corrected the "Early life" and "Political career" sections. Now many sentences and sections are unsourced/original researchesthanks to removal of RS sources like thisbyIntalk here. The last stable version was this. The only thing contentious is the controversy section, which can be discussed and dealt with separately. I believe we should restore it to this and then start from there. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 08:10, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
You say it’s silly to put the flagicon in front of locations. Does this mean that I would need to put the distinction of the country in the description of the location or are you just saying that it shouldn’t be there at all?
If it’s the latter, then I don’t see what’s stopping you from heading over to Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, and Floyd Mayweather’s records and taking the flagicon off. CaPslOcksBroKEn (talk) 18:21, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
I won’t put anymore on Angott’s page, because it would be inconsistent as well as a waste of time to add them back and get in an edit war. For future articles I will consider it, and I can’t make any promises as It’s become a habit after inputing well over a thousand fights throughout Wikipedia. I noticed that you didn’t take out the flagicons for the fighters. Why is that?
Did you mean to allow TPA for this sock after you had previously blocked without TPA? Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 18:30, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
Only noticed it today (indeed, my eyesight is not getting any better!), minutes after being reverted by User:GiantSnowman the PAOK fanatic reinstated their storyline. Ah, i see that the "penalties against my team wrongfully given" bit is now sourced...by GREEK newspapers (yes, really "unbiased")!! They also continue to write extensively about the club's career in the manager article, when we have the seasonal club pages (for example 2020–21 PAOK FC season) to do so; their writing is also done in an attempt to belittle the coach, hold grudge much (thank God Pablo García has won all the matches so far, or else!)?
Reverted again, and I am not going to waste one more second engaging in conversation with this user, first time i did so (politely) was told to get a pair of glasses. Have no idea what a person of this caliber is doing here at WP, but to each their own i guess.
Take care! --Quite A Character (talk) 18:32, 11 November 2020 (UTC)
LOL ("nice head of hair")! Regarding your request in the article's edit summaries (the flagicons), i don't think i can accommodate man, i'm as dumb as they come regarding technicalities :(
P.S: bugger, i did not ask for any block, last week happened to me and i felt really frustrated, fortunately the other person was polite and gregarious, let's see how this one fares... --Quite A Character (talk) 03:13, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
Thank god it was not indef (only one week), thanks mate! Let's see how the user fares now. --Quite A Character (talk) 03:24, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
I tried, but fucked up real good like you before me :( No worries, i've just contacted table master :@Robby.is.on:, he'll fix it before we can say "14yearseditingthishereencyclopediaandi'mboredoutofmymindbutstillcan'tleavesuchablitheringidiot"... --Quite A Character (talk) 03:59, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
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So in two months I'll have been domiciled for 20 years in the 86ing capital of the world, where Alphadeltafoxtrot (who has worked in gaming since the Ford administration when Howard Hughes owned his employing facility) uses the verb "to eighty-six" with the specific connotation of telling a human that they are no longer welcome in an establishment one controls. Homicide is expressly not the connotation; if I 86 somebody from my house, it means they are being requested to just go the fudge away. Forever, ideally. Like, you 86 somebody who comes to your house for dinner and you find them swilling the vodka out of your wet bar straight from the bottle while they think everyone is in the kitchen trying to grapple with getting the ham out of the oven. You 86 somebody from your bar who drinks too much and picks fights and sexually grabs people.
Murdering them would be an imprudent overexercise of scarce, costly resources. A 86ed customer just needs to go away and not darken the doorstep any longer. Ditto an 86ed occupant of federal residential property.
I have very little time right now to research UNLV archives for documentation of this fine but critical distinction, but it means enough to me to fight for the reputation of the project, and for you and yours, that I'll do the best I can in the next couple of weeks. (Alternately: If there is a reliable source for this concept anywhere, UNLV probably has it, I have to believe.) - Julietdeltalima (talk) 19:46, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
Hello. I recently filed a report at ANI about a user who engages in OR/Syth, edit warring, persistently adds low quality sources (including a non-peer-reviewed preprint), and refuses to engage/discuss (reverting me and completely ignoring my edit summaries trying to explain the problems with their edits). However, the report has been there for a while now, and although two non-admin users have commented (corroborating what I described), no admins have yet and nothing has been done. The user who is the subject of the report has begun to edit again and thus I worry the problem will continue (since they have a tendency to be unresponsive to explanations and to make strange and unfounded accusations). I'm not sure what to do. I am contacting you because I believe it was you who edited the title of my report soon after it was filed. I hope doing so is not inappropriate (is there some one else I should contact? Sould I perhaps re-file the report?) Here is a link to my report: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#USER:Toltol15_making_WP:OR_edits_and_edits_using_low_quality_sources,_ignoring_edit_notes/edit_wars,_and_refusing_to_engage/discuss Is there another admin I should perhaps also contact? )I have also left a similar message for administrator User:Doug Weller.) Any help is appreciated. Thank you, Skllagyook (talk) 02:05, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
You're an academic, does this read right to you? Doug Weller talk 10:49, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Instance of admin abuse by Drmies. Thank you. — Yours, Berrely • Talk∕Contribs 16:36, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi Drmies. Since you nominated an article that's based entirely on UNESCO free content, I thought I'd make you aware of this discussion I started several years ago: Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)/Archive 137#Does/should WP:NOFULLTEXT apply to more than just primary sources? It's concerned me since I discovered these articles that they often present UNESCO's POV in Wikipedia's voice and fail to make use of other sources, that there are potential COI issues, and that their creation is actually being encouraged by the WMF (see Meta:Grants:Project/UNESCO/Wikimedian in Residence at UNESCO 2019-2020). I've not had much luck in getting others interested in the problem though. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:28, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
... with the lengthened block: not true that all warnings are still on the talk, - not mine, for example --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:14, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
New account (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/%CE%9C%CF%80%CE%BF%CF%8D%CE%BB%CE%B7%CF%82), is this person for real? Of course, Mr. Ferreira was again "worked on"...
P.S. Don't know if out of sarcasm or not (assuming good faith? After nearly 15 years, i'm well past that stage), but this person thanked me for an edit i performed in the aforementioned article. Regards, keep it up --Quite A Character (talk) 18:24, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
Wrote them another polite message, let's see if i don't regret this! --Quite A Character (talk) 18:36, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
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davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 00:00, 15 November 2020 (UTC)Serious matter, i think: now, a guy who complained about me to an admin regarding another article (without even notifying me!), has joined forces with the sock in the article, reinstating their overdetail. I have already written them a message on the matter (polite of course), and they have replied, we seem to be getting along :)
Attentively --Quite A Character (talk) 21:47, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
When I was looking through my contribs to see something, I saw that you put "stalker" for the block reason of User:JeanAndreMarc. Out of curiosity, how did he/she stalk? 4thfile4thrank {talk} :? 19:18, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
Um, I'm not sure how to ask this, but do you have small kids at home who have access to your keyboard? -- RoySmith (talk) 23:24, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
I have been reading some family news posted by your wife on that other website. I just want you to know that I care about all of you, and hope that everything ends up OK. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 05:14, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
This user back in May changed referenced information concerning Ash'ari to Athari, stating,"Ibn Tumart was Athari in creed not Ashari. He was from a group called the zahiris who were fiercely anti-ashari as was its main founders Dawud Az-Zahiri and its most proliferous scholar, Ibn Hazm." The information in question is referenced and clearly supports Ash'ari (page 44).
Now after a brief hiatus, CorrectionalFacility101 is back and has again changed Ash'ari to Orthodox Athari and changed the wording of the referenced quote from;
Needless to say, I checked the latest change and verified the quote and reverted them. I had posted on their talk page back in Dec 2019 and considering they have warnings from 4 other editors, I feel it may be time for an Admin to have a "talk" with them. Hopefully they will not make anymore changes to referenced information, but I am not optimistic. --Kansas Bear (talk) 08:30, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
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Hey, Drmies. Hope you're well. There's an incident in which your advice might help. Amanuensis Balkanicus (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has been trying to insert the WP:FRINGE theory that the Panda Bar massacre was "possibly" committed by the Kosovo Liberation Army and they also removed the Yugoslav/Serbian security services as one of the possible culprits. It's WP:FRINGE because an official Serbian investigation has concluded that no Albanian involvement existed whatsoever and Serbia officially has acknowledged that the perpetrators were actually agents from the Serbian state security agency of the Milosevic regime. It's one of those rare cases where the victims have gotten at least some answers - although they probably won't get any justice 20+ years after the event (side comment). The WP:FRINGE aspect of the dispute probably should be discussed on AE, so my question involves another issue. Amanuensis Balkanicus after reverting me, was reverted by another editor and then left a message on Sadko's talkpage and informed him to check it out (in reference to him being reverted) with the section title "vandalism". Then Sadko removed the message from his talkpage and made reverts similar to AB's and reinserted the same WP:FRINGE theory. I wasn't aware of the exchange between AB-Sadko until another editor mentioned it on the talkpage [23]. Now, in my book, that looks like a possible case of canvassing in order to get support in a dispute. Is that form of notification acceptable? --Maleschreiber (talk) 23:52, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
As for the KLA or whatever, you know that I know nothing about this subject matter at all so arguing one side or another is useless. I did, of course, have a look at the article. So much fighting and so little writing! "KLA" needs to be spelled out and linked. "Civilian" and "ambush" don't need to be linked. In the timeline, some of the salient facts should be repeated: "On 14 December 1998, when a fragile ceasefire was in effect during the Kosovo War, Serbian police ambushed an incursion by the Kosovo Liberation Army, killing at least 31 people in the process" or something like that. "Within hours of the border ambush, the KLA vowed revenge" needs to go: the BBC source connects that to the brutal murder of that official, not to the shooting in the bar, and our article right now suggests cause and effect. I think y'all should remove "suspected KLA gunmen" from that second sentence in the Timeline section, and hold it for later; I think you should move that entire passage starting "Western diplomats" and place it later. There is no article linked to the Judah reference, so it's not clear whether his thoughts matter; I found something in his article and will stick it in there--please check if that's the right one. OH--it is, and whoever wrote "the journalist Tim Judah suggests that the attack may have been carried out by a rogue unit" should be ashamed of themselves: Judah says no such thing. He says "Whether they [the KLA] were [responsible for the Panda Bar killing], or whether whether the killings were committed by a rogue unit, as some of the diplomats believed, hardly mattered now".
OK. Wittgenstein said that that many of the problems of philosophy are problems of language, and how can you all ever expect some sort of consensual article building when there are problems even before we get to the problems? Drmies (talk) 14:51, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
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Hello, it seems USER:Toltol15 has again added the same non-peer-reviewed scientific preprint to an article, Sub-Saharan Africa (that they repeatedly added before). Thus they seem to have now ignored your warning on their personal Talk page as they ignored the report I filed (at the "ANI" board), as well as my repeated attempts to explain the problems with their edit to them before I filed the report. I reverted them with (yet another) explanation, but I think they are likely to ignore me and continue to refuse to engage as they have done before. Can anything be done. (Should I file another report?) Here is the pages's edit history for reference: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:History/Sub-Saharan_Africa
Update: They have continued to refuse to engage and edit war, and continue to completely miss the point of why their edits are problematic.
Any help is aporeciated. Skllagyook (talk) 23:13, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
I think we discussed this article quite a few years ago, and agreed that it has problems. I just ran across it again. It is so gigantic that I don't know what to do about it. Any thoughts? Cullen328 Let's discuss it 23:17, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
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I am the person you got banned for editing the Tia Dalma page. I get it and I have no hard feelings, I totally deserved it. But I was hoping you could help me. The person whose edits I am removing, I am removing because they keep referring to Tia Dalma as a representation of sexual goddesses (Calypso and Erzulie), neither of which are sexual goddesses if you do any research on them at all. Their source for that is a book I cannot read without buying but is slightly worrisome as it is written by a man and men have the sexist tendency to over sexualise women. I also think that if one does talk about the sexualisation of Tia Dalma that is fine, but they are not providing facts from both perspectives which I perceive as sexist and therefore not actually objective. I don't want to be banned again, of course but I also think that this important to the black female narrative and so will not let up.
As someone who has way more experience on wiki, what do you recommend I should do? Sincerely — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anger0104 (talk • contribs) 17:00, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi,
Please remove page protection from Annie Donaldson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), an article you semi-protected. Many thanks, Politrukki (talk) 16:47, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
As I've said before and I hope you don't mind me repeating here, I am not an "anti-Muslim", quite the opposite. I'm sorry I've given this impression. Like I said, I have never suggested the story is true, though at least two Wikipedia articles still say it is. I hope you will make your assessment in light of these facts. Please re-assess my position and please accept my apologies for not making it more explicit sooner. Accusations of me being anti-Muslim are hurtful and unfounded and I would your suggestion to the contrary to be withdrawn. Clearly we didn't agree on how/whether the Mehmed story should be dealt with, but I said at the time I wanted to consider changes and asked for input which was ignored.
The way that Constantinople and Fall of Constantinople deal with the story is an object lesson in the kind of treatment I was hoping to avoid by attributing the story to its authors, making clear the authors were not present and that their alleged witnesses do not support the crucial mythic elements that are essential to the ideological effect, and by demonstrating the numerous incongruent details and mutual contradictions in the sources. I asked before to collaborate on how better to present the narrative, but no-one took part. Perhaps you can suggest how better to handle it, but in any case please retract the accusation of anti-Muslim editing, it's not fair or accurate. GPinkerton (talk) 02:00, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
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Hi Drmies, I'm just letting recent contributors to Emily W. Murphy know that I've dropped the protection level to extended confirmed and added a consensus required restriction. Please see my explanation on the talk page for more information. Thanks, Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 12:52, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
Yoicks!? --Deepfriedokra (talk) 17:25, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I think the use of "white nationalist, white supremacist, antisemitic, Holocaust denial" in the first sentence of the article Stormfront (website) is redundant because Neo-Nazis are, by definition, white nationalist, white supremacist, antisemitic Holocaust deniers. The excessive use of descriptors, while 100% accurate, kind of comes across like it's trying to take a jab at Stormfront(?) which is fine in other contexts, but aren't Wikipedia articles supposed to be unopinionated? I think it would be better if the first sentence just read "Stormfront is a Neo-nazi Internet forum, and the Web's first major racial hate site." You clearly disagree, which is why I created a section on the Stormfront (website) talk page so we can discuss this topic. (Talk:Stormfront_(website)#Redundant/excessive_use_of_descriptors) Cc330162 (talk) 00:38, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
I am extremely confused at your comments and reversion. There is user who constantly removes valid and sourced information in an attempt to change a certain article. indeed, multiple articles from HateWatch, the Southern Poverty Law Centre and Right Wing Watch have profiled Owen Benjamin. Why can that not be represented in the article? As it is, the article does not convey that Benjamin is involved in daily holocaust denial, spreads Neo Nazi propaganda and encourages violence. The users consistently reverts any edits that accurately report on him. Why did you call me out for this, and why is that okay? Please help me understand, because I don't know why we continue to allow Benjamin to not face the consequences of his actions and words. Thank you. TruthBuster21223 (talk) 17:37, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Yes I am actually confused. And it was not my edit from the lead, that was another user. Many users felt it was appropriate to be in the lead, while another did not. How does that mean we are disruptive? Also, I never have made a false accusation. TruthBuster21223 (talk) 18:51, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi! This wide range block is probably unecessary since many edits seem unrelated and not vandalism. Even for bad contributions they are probably different users, these are dynamic IPs and per the stupid greek ISPs network architecture they may even be from different cities... (Stepped on this by chance when my browser decided to log me out). -Geraki (talk) 09:43, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
I have replied to you on the talk page for Galaktoboureko. Spudlace (talk) 02:50, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
I want to personally thank you for banning user 108.84.252.85 for his vandalism on a bunch of pages (including the Riverside International Raceway page that I had to revert) for 2 years, I wish it could have been longer (life) but it is what it is.
Thanks Jason Trew (talk) 04:20, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I was wondering why you blocked Konli17 indef. straight. He really improved the flow of multiple sections in articles and his edits were mostly reverted for for the word Kurdistan which was mainly done by the ones who reported him multiple times at the noticeboards just for making it seem he is an edit warrior. I've checked the reports, there was no violation in two of them at all, once, he even reverted less than the filer! of the report. He was also rather active and polite at the talk pages which some of the ones who have reported him, can't really say. He probably became a little tired of the discussions at the noticeboards after he was blocked for reverting less! than the one who filed the report in an edit dispute where he really was arguing rather polite and with reason, while the filer literally answered I don't care what you think which now doesn't seem fair at all, much less regarding the civility discussion that now comes up in the dispute. He was sure here to build an encyclopedia. A block for a few days, ok, but for indef. straight for not wanting to build an encyclopedia, I'd be glad to receive a clarification.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 08:39, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
Hi Drmies. I had this user talk page still on my watchlist from an earlier post when I noticed the AN3 thread. Do you think I can just remove WT:AN3#Multiple threads for same problem since things now appear to have been sorted? In addition, I'm wondering whether PabloLikesToWrestle might need some guidance per WP:YOUNG given what he has posted on his user page. It's possible that he might at least be still a high school student. That's not an excuse for EW for sure, but his age might be a contributing factor to his lack of WP:CIVIL in dealing with this situation. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:36, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
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Not sure they are going to learn (having been blocked last month) as well. But we will see.Slatersteven (talk) 18:10, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
Hey. So I've "finished" Seven against Thebes, and I'd very much appreciate it if you would read it over and share your thoughts. Paul August ☎ 11:46, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Please see my one-week protection. I thought the continued reverts were getting ridiculous. Hope this was not going against your intentions for how to handle this. You can kind of see what both sides would be taking it extremely seriously, though we can't let that kind of thing continue. WP can't solve all the problems of the real world. EdJohnston (talk) 16:55, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
A remark about your attitude. I don't appreciate that you post angry and demeaning responses to honest questions and remarks which you don't even bother to read properly before blowing your fuse. That's insulting and pointless. For example (leaving out your sarcasm): You were accusing me of NOT understanding how reverting without an explanation is prima facie disruptive in the middle of an edit war, and not being competent enough in working in a collaborative environment, and so on. That was your response to my remark: "I've invited that editor to the Talk page and have explained the reverts there in detail." I have wasted weeks on an article, getting nowhere because of an obstructive editor. But once I start restoring and protecting my contributions and come to you for advice all I get is your negative attitude. Maybe you're having a bad day, or week, but come on. Saflieni (talk) 00:46, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
Looks like you hid my username instead of the offending one. power~enwiki (π, ν) 20:27, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
Could you block 122.57.50.184 fast. And take away their tp acsses Thanks, Signed,The4lines |||| (You Asked?) (What I have Done.) 23:05, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
I went ahead and opened it. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. (t · c) buidhe 11:19, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for the help. I think helperbot5 was struggling to keep up with us! :D-- 5 albert square (talk) 01:40, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
If you have time, can you suggest models for the disputed article In Praise of Blood? I am looking for articles that fairly present both praise and criticism, with a good level of detail over-all? Enlightenment Now and Lone Survivor (book) are two I found, but do you see things wrong with those or want to suggest others? HouseOfChange (talk) 13:26, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Hey, just wanted to ask if you can unblock an IP address. Some times, I prefer not to edit logged in, for various reasons, but my IP has been blocked because some other user somewhere else in the world caused disruptions. This my IP contribution page: . Thanks —Dimsar01 Talk ⌚→ 12:35, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
On a sidenote, you wrote at WP:ANI that I became a template editor while you weren't watching.[24] What did you mean by that? It sounds as though you think I shouldn't be a template editor. I have been a template editor since 2013, with quite some experience, and don't think have ever give reason to doubt that I am a good template editor. Maybe you meant something else, or I am reading something into your words that you didn't mean, and in that case I apologize for bothering you, but to me what you wrote sounded not very nice. Debresser (talk) 12:42, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi! Can you add additional info on the Gokak movement, from this reliable source: https://www.deccanherald.com/special-features/karnatakas-defining-moments-the-gokak-movement-and-kannada-pride-919589.html since you were one of the last person to edit the page? Master Sam 77 (talk) 12:41, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Jeez, what a mess. At least it was a clean copy/paste. Thanks for cleaning up the copyvio. I've been meaning to have a go at Santa María (ship) where a well-meaning, enthusiastic editor wrote what they knew rather than summarizing sources - as an article on a prominent subject it's a bit pernicious, and a rewrite will need to be done from scratch to deal with all the musings interleaved with the referenced material. I cut out 10K of digressions back in the summer, but haven't had the motivation to tackle that one. Acroterion (talk) 18:47, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi Drmies.
It seems that Adamant1, whom you recently blocked, either does not understand the underlying reason for the block or is in denial. The editor made an unblock request and essentially blaming others—and I assume on the editor's list in this case—and his aggressive attempts to correct the aspersions they made for the block. Would you mind responding to it to help clear the confusion up? Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:10, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
You have issued a warning for using copyrighted material. Please have another look as I am sure you will find that the text in question is not contributed or edited by me.
As for the (lower) part in the article and my contributions affected by your actions, these does not in any way violate copyright. I am certain you will agree, if you look in to it. Only quotes have been 'copied'.
Thank you --BigBoy75 (talk) 12:21, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
On16 December 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Christian Schreiber (philosopher), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Christian Schreiber, a church administrator, philosopher and poet, wrote a German version of the Latin Mass for the publication, alongside the original, of Beethoven's Mass in C major? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Christian Schreiber (philosopher). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Christian Schreiber (philosopher)), and it may be added to the statistics page if it received over 400 views per hour. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Thank you so much for contribs to him, part of the the birthday display! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:47, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Thank u ma'am for support me on wikipedia. You are really helpful person . God bless u and thank u again🙏 love from india🇮🇳 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki97828 (talk • contribs) 03:27, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
Hi Drmies,
I wonder what you think of the following odd situation, and in particular whether I've handled it correctly: if you look at the history of the obscure newish page Tau function (integrable systems), you'll see heavy editing by KarlJacobi, C.L.Dodgson, W.Pauli, F.J.Dyson, F.G.Frobenius, C.F.Klein, and Rphysicist. The naming scheme here is formulaic, and they all have essentially the same userpage (a sentence or short paragraph of the form "This account is mainly devoted to [some topic broadly in mathematics or physics]") -- so it seems like they're all the same person. There doesn't seem to be anything terribly wrong with their editing. So far, I've left a note on the oldest account. Does that seem about right?
Thanks, JBL (talk) 22:08, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
I don't think it necessary to give an account of one's credentials in this setting, where you, and most everyone else, are similarly concealed behind a curtain of anonymity, and do not have to account for your own qualifications or authority in making such enquiries. Suffice to say that I am a qualified contributor, a professional mathematician and physicist, and that I only quite recently created the user account W.Pauli for the purpose of occasionally sharing things that I happen to know on topics in theoretical physics which may be of service to users of Wikipedia. I also created an account User:C.F.Klein, for similar contributions on purely mathematical topics. Although it is mentioned in the user page of both that these accounts are linked, I prefer to keep them separate, to distinguish any edits that are purely in physics from those that are in mathematics, even though they may deal with different aspects of the same Wikipedia article.
The article you are referring to was mainly the creation of another User, KarlJacobi, who has been doing this sort of Wikipedia editing for much longer, and whose identity I happen to know, since he is a colleague currently working in a field with significant overlap with my own - Integrable Systems. I can assure you that KarlJacobi is a well-known expert in this field (which you might want to look up, e.g., in Wikipedia), and that the article, on tau-functions is exceptionally well-written, (though perhaps not so much the parts that I added), of considerable current interest, and very well-sourced.
On the other hand, the User JBL who tried "discretely" to question this contribution, has a rather well-documented history of trouble-making: unwarranted deletion of other people's work, use of abusive language, edit warring, etc. He has, I believe, been banished from editing at Wikipedia on more than one occasion. Before giving serious credence to his insinuations, I would recommend looking a bit at his history (e.g. by consulting his own talk page, if he hasn't got around to deleting the more embarrassing parts meanwhile). W.Pauli (talk) 02:24, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
KarlJacobi, I am very much interested in hearing from you as well; thank you. Drmies (talk) 01:22, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
In the same way that wikipedia does not consider the California State Library as national library, the library of catalonia should not be considered that way either. Please stop reverting changes based on your own bias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiiiiikiiiii (talk • contribs) 18:02, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
I have a lot to say about this dumpster fire of an article but...I wanted to get an opinion. I don't think we should include this lawsuit, since it was unsuccessful. DCYF paid out 600k in medical expenses for Alahveridan, he filed this lawsuit (i'm leaving a bit in between out because it's inexplicably oversighted) alleging he was raped and tortured, they filed the 200k lien (against his suit somehow) and then he dropped it. It's a nothingburger. If we don't allow primary sources for the rest of the stuff (particularly the controversy that was deleted) I don't think this should be in here either. The only person who ever discusses the suit is him by way of interviews being taken out of context by poorly run local media. GRINCHIDICAE🎄 18:17, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
I'm sorry to bother you, but I need help. The following IP address, 69.121.181.163, a known WP:VANDAL who has been blocked before, is disrupting Wikipedia. Most recently, they tried to transfer information from the Tinkerer's page to an unrelated character twice for no good reason. I have undone these, but I just know they are going to do it again. They also have no respect for Wikipedia or their fellow Wikipedians, as they keep violating rules from the WP:MOS such as WP:OR and WP:EGG as well as writing information so that only they and fans of the material they edit understand it and not general readers. Even worse, they only ever use the excuse "Minor changes" in their edit summary when they are making massive changes such as removing references for no reason or making bold claims with no sourcing at all. I have tried to reason with them, but they insist on leaving disruptive edits in their wake with no sign of stopping, forcing others like myself to clean up their mess. Please respond when you can. Blazewing16 (talk) 06:42, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
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At present, to the general public, as noted in Talk:Tachash#No mention in target of redirect, there is no Tachash (article).
Even the Middle East articles don't have the Tachash-level of protection.
Please look at Draft:Tachash/stub and perhaps there can be a mediated-form of edits, meaning that Tachash would be updated every 48-72 hours from a doubly copied Tachash/stub. The process might resemble this:
At all times the stub will be available for editing - the same text that could become the WP:OVERDUE "plan" portion of Tabernacle, but hasn't (?yet). This way, a Tachash would be available to the reading public (remember- they're the main goal, not the subset who are editors, or the still smaller set: squabblers).
P.S. If the above all-manual system works for a while, a bot-aided version could allow a vote-based system, that collects "m of n" votes every 24 hours, using the rule that a NO needs three YES to override, with a negative score having the bot add time to the inter-version cycling, and allow more "offline" (growing stub) editing among the disputants to occur. Pi314m (talk) 04:51, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
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I realized too late that 1 went over de 3RR. If deemed suitable, hammer me for that.
Point is that a new user was removing text and sources without explanation. But what really made my hair stand up, was this edit. I have no experience with paid editing so like to hand over this case. The Banner talk 20:49, 26 December 2020 (UTC)