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Note for promoters: please be sure to add an "invisible" comment after a hook when you've placed it in prep, noting that it's a special occasion hook and including the date it is supposed to run. This should keep the hook from being moved after promotion, as sometimes happens to hooks when a queue needs a slot filled or a prep set needs to be made more balanced by swapping hooks between preps.
Source: "A high-shticking breakaway", Rick Groen, The Globe and MailProQuest749452350 "In 339 films from 59 counties, TIFF the vast festival is so pluralistic it entrances; in this one film from the host country, Score: A Hockey Musical is so Canadian it hurts."
ALT1: ... that Score: A Hockey Musical opened five international film festivals in the month before the 2010–11 NHL season?Source: Groen (as above): "Score: A Hockey Musical will screen as the opening-night film in five festivals across Canada, including Toronto on Sept. 9, Halifax on Sept. 16, Sudbury on Sept. 18, Calgary on Sept. 23 and Edmonton on Sept. 24." and NBC Sports"NHL releases full 2010–2011 schedule of events" "NHL Face-Off-the League’s annual launch event in North America-welcomes the beginning of the 2010-11 NHL season in North America on Oct. 7 with the Toronto Maple Leafs hosting arch-rival Montreal Canadiens live on CBC."
ALT2: ... that the premiere of Score: A Hockey Musical has been called "disastrous", "embarrassing" and "infamous" despite receiving a standing ovation? Source: Craig Takeuchi "Will the Bollywood-spiced Breakaway beat Canada's Score as a hockey musical?"The Georgia Straight quote: "The ill-advised, WTF idea to blend musicals with Canada's most beloved sport, hockey, proved to be a disastrous combination for last year's Cancon atrocity Score: A Hockey Musical." + Will Sloan "Score: A Hockey Musical "Exclaim! quote: "Score: A Hockey Musical is a musical/comedy/inspirational sports movie that fails resoundingly on every level. That it was selected to open the Toronto International Film Festival is embarrassing." + Justine Smith "The strength of this year's Canadian lineup comes from TIFF's focus on fresh and innovative young voices"National Post quote: "The negative impression of Canadian film - certainly not helped by Score: A Hockey Musical, the Toronto International Film Festival's (TIFF) infamous 2010 opening night movie". + Jamie Hall, "Score hits the ice in hockey-loving Edmonton", Edmonton JournalProQuest754978695 quote: "The movie has opened at festivals in Toronto, Halifax and Sudbury to sold-out audiences and standing ovations."
5× expansion of 4 March 2024 version completed from 1,888 characters to 20,402 and nominated on the same day. No copyvios detected (high confidence of violation due to direct quotes from reviews that have all been cited; AGF sources which can't go through Dup detector). Article is well-sourced. Main hook is 74 characters long (ALT1 is 113; ALT2 is 141); all three are under 200 character max. and are interesting. Refs 46 (verifying the main hook and ALT1), 54 (verifying ALT1), 66, 69, and 72 (verifying ALT2) are reliable sources. QPQ done. Looks good to go! —Bloom6132 (talk) 00:21, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Reidgreg, I don't see the WP:SOHA connection to July 1, other than that it's just a Canada-related hook. Can you expand? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:51, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AirshipJungleman29: I thought the connection is fairly strong and "sufficiently special" for the date: Multiple sources (five sources in the second paragraph of critical reception, and others elsewhere) talk about the film being chocked full of Canadiana and a "love letter" to Canada and Canada's national sport. Not just to hockey, but to hockey as Canada's national (winter) sport. – Reidgreg (talk) 01:03, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that expatriate Canadians added to the International Register of Electors may vote in Canadian elections in the electoral riding of their last Canadian address?
ALT1: ... that as of 2019, inclusion in the International Register of Electors no longer requires residency in Canada in the preceding five years? Source: "Now, any Canadian expatriate qualified to vote, regardless of how long they have been out of the country" and "Previously, only citizens who had lived abroad for less than five years were allowed to vote." at List of countries where Canadian expats live disclosed for security reasons
Article moved to mainspace the day it was nominated. Article is long enough, well-cited to reliable sources, presentable, and with no policy issues detected. Hooks are formatted and of good length, hook facts cited in article, verified from sources, and interesting. QPQ verified. ALT0 is probably the more interesting of the two. I'm going to hold the tick for a bit while I think about other hooks (per nom). (I had something interesting about the Quebec (provincial) list, as voters outside the province were more likely to vote "no" on sovereignty.) BTW, would you like to request this for Canada Day? – Reidgreg (talk) 16:36, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Reidgreg: It hadn't occurred to me to request a Canada Day slot, but that sounds good. Mindmatrix 00:27, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't think of any ALTs, so approving this with the date request. I've got this watchlisted in case you think of another. – Reidgreg (talk) 00:53, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that the Oxtongue River was a canoe route for indigenous people is still used for recreational canoeing?Source: Refs #5 and #6
ALT2: ... that the Oxtongue River(pictured) flows through an ancient glacial spillway that drained meltwaters from the Algonquin Highlands into Lake Algonquin? Source: Ref #6 (Oxtongue River-Ragged Falls Provincial Park Management Plan)
Starting review--Kevmin§ 16:38, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Article new enough and long enough. All sections well sourced and neutrally written. Hook one is verified. hook two and three are source, but we need citations directly after each in the article per DYK rules.--Kevmin§ 16:19, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kevmin: done. Thanks for your review. -- P 1 9 9✉ 19:29, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All three hooks now cited for DYK. Sources for each are neutral and hooks are accurate to sourcing. Work is needed on the article and hook wording for Alt2, which as it is right now is too close to the source The Oxtongue River flows through an ancient glacial spillway, which drained meltwaters from the Algonquin Highlands into glacial Lake Algonquin. for our policies.--Kevmin§ 14:33, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kevmin: I have rewritten the statement in the article, but struck out ALT2 here, because the new wording is too contrived IMO. -- P 1 9 9✉ 18:49, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fixes look good. I'm not seeing any other close paraphrasing issues, so I do believe we are good to go.--Kevmin§ 16:06, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I understand that the hook is about a Canadian topic, but is it really so relevant to Canada that it needs to run on Canada Day? It would be nice of course but the connection to Canada Day seems rather tenuous at best. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:43, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: Well, if we're going to limit DYK hooks specifically to Canada Day, good luck getting even one! In fact, the 2 hooks in the holding area now are also not related to Canada Day, but just Canadian topics. As you say, "it would be nice of course"... -- P 1 9 9✉ 12:45, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with P199 Canada related in general is better then no Canada Day hooks at all and looking like stuck up Americans.--Kevmin§ 16:06, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fascinating little article about such an obscure figure! The source checks out, the article seems in good shape (just barely long enough, fully cited, no evidence of copyvio), and the QPQ checks out as well. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 03:01, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
LunaEclipse, concerns have been raised over the copyright status of the video and as it was the lead hook, I've pulled it from queue. It needs to be promoted again, but can't include the video, unless we come to the conclusion that the license is ok after all. Schwede66 22:45, 17 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
After concerns were raised on WT:DYK about the copyright status, I've posted to the commons about this video: [3]Rjjiii (talk) 02:45, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Videos attract huge views, and I recommend waiting until we have an answer.--Launchballer 10:24, 18 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: I've replaced the video with an image of Karim. It's going to take a while for a consensus on the upload's copyright to form anyways. 🌙Eclipse(talk)(contribs) 18:12, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I won't use that image per WP:DYKIMG. Just noting here that, while the hook should technically have an end-of-sentence citation, ALT0 is clearly a summary of the rest of that paragraph and the alternative's potentially a {{clump}}, so I'm minded to IAR - but is there a source available?--Launchballer 18:26, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- @Launchballer, Davest3r08, LunaEclipse, and Schwede66: I've removed this from the queue again, as it doesn't look like the issue of the video's copyright has been resolved yet. I think before this runs, we need to either (a) remove the video from the article, or (b) ascertain that there's a consensus somewhere that its copyright status is valid. As far as I could tell from the discussion last time, we were minded to reject the video's certification given that Lapitsky recorded it, not Karim. I'd think without definitive knowledge that Lapitsky's intention was to release it under that licence, and with it not even being under that licence any more anyway, this is pretty dubious... — Amakuru (talk) 20:11, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've added my 2c to the discussion on Commons. That said, I'm not sure that's quite the right venue for that discussion; it should have been put up for deletion. Schwede66 21:13, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, this nom has stalled for way too long. I've removed the video from the article for the time being. lunaeclipse(talk) 22:24, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It would be really cool to run this on April 23, 2025- the 20th anniversary of its posting. Thriley (talk) 18:40, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I wish you the very best of much-needed luck at WT:DYK if you wish to go down that avenue. For now, let's get this back into Approved. I recommend promoting this no earlier than prep 4 just in case the Commons discussion returns a 'keep' vote, so that the video can be substituted back in.--Launchballer 18:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that in a period of religious tensions, military officer Chris Tanasale was selected as mayor of Ambon, Indonesia, to prevent alienating local Christians? Source: [4]: "In the end, the governor chose not to further alienate the Christian community and selected a Christian candidate, Chris Tanasale".
New enough, long enough, well written, hook is verified and interesting, no plagiarism, QPQ done. I'm not entirely sure that the image is correctly licensed, but in any case it is not used with the hook. Dahn (talk) 09:29, 3 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Juxlos, Dahn, and AirshipJungleman29: sorry for last minute pull, I checked this set earlier today but only just had access to a computer to edit... anyway, the issue is there seems to be a chronological issue with this hook, based on what's in the article. The hook begins with "that during a period of religious tensions...", with a link to Maluku sectarian conflict, which is described as being from 1999 to 2002, but then it says he was "selected as the mayor of Ambon, Indonesia, to placate local Christians", something which took place in 1996. So it can't have been during the Maluku conflict. The article goes on to say that this was during his tenure. If there was already tension in 1996, then we probably need to spell that out in the article to use it in the hook and also not link to a specific conflict that took place later. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 21:55, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Amakuru: I suppose that will count as OR in the hook. Maybe we can go with a half-hook instead?
ALT1: ... that military officer Chris Tanasale was selected as mayor of Ambon, Indonesia, to placate local Christians?
@Dahn: As the original approver, can you confirm if the above hook is approved, and if this article is good to go? @Amakuru: Is the above hook acceptable to you? Z1720 (talk) 00:24, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Approving new hook, and sorry for not catching that. Dahn (talk) 03:45, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Z1720: my only query would be whether placate is the best word here... The article text reads "to prevent alienating Christians in the city" which sounds quite benevolent and inclusive, whereas placate means "make (someone) less angry or hostile". Were the Christians angry and hostile before Tanasale's selection? — Amakuru (talk) 07:53, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Juxlos: Can you address the above? Z1720 (talk) 17:24, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Amakuru:@Z1720: Apologies for the delay - long trip. Maybe best to reword it to exactly match the article and source (i.e. "prevent alienating")? Juxlos (talk) 16:08, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Juxlos and Dahn: no worries, hope your trip went well. How's this? I've modified your proposal slightly to prevent the alienation of... rather than prevent alienating, it sounds slightly more grammatical. Other than that, this seems fine to me, Dahn can feedback if they approve this version.
ALT1a: ... that military officer Chris Tanasale was selected as mayor of Ambon, Indonesia, to prevent the alienation of local Christians? — Amakuru (talk) 16:14, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No qualms with a slight word reordering. Juxlos (talk) 16:15, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: * Ormond Beach should probably be wikilinked.
Source [3] says the renaming happened on May 15, 1998.
The Oct 1, 2000 renaming to Florida Hospital Oceanside does not appear in any of the three sources listed.[2][6][7] But it does appear in source [1]. The sentence "On October 1, 2000, Florida Hospital officially to over the management of Memorial Hospital Peninsula" lacks a verb and it's not clear what "Florida Hospital" refers to in this sentence. Did you mean Adventist Health System?
"To make the rehabilitation rooms on the second and third floors private." Dangling clause.
"In early March 2018, the rehabilitation facility at Florida Hospital Oceanside moved to Florida Hospital Memorial Medical Center. This left the hospital with 17 acute-care beds." - This seems to misunderstand the source. Prior to Irma, there were already only 17 beds, then Irma damaged Oceanside to the point of closing and moving service to Memorial Medical Center. This source is also about the whole hospital, not just the rehabilitation facility.
"From the site AdventHealth was keeping 2.44 acres for future use by Florida State Road A1A." The article says "future endeavors", not for use by State Road A1A. That's a completely separate point.
Overall, I think the writer could do with some more careful reading of the sources to verify all claims in the article. I'm happy to pass it if the above points are addressed. I think HOOK1 should be used, considering the alleged crime did not lead to a conviction. Axem Titanium (talk) 17:51, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Axem Titanium: Ormond Beach is linked in the articles introduction. And I have made improvements that you suggested to the article. Catfurball (talk) 18:23, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I meant it should be linked in the hook itself. Axem Titanium (talk) 18:39, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Catfurball: Were you done with your edits to the article? I still see some factual errors/misreading of sources that I identified above. Axem Titanium (talk) 15:15, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not asking you to withdraw the nomination; I'm asking you to address the issues I identified above, some of which you implemented and some of which you did not. The clause is still dangling. It's the whole hospital that closed, not just the rehabilitation facility. The 2.44 acres are not going to be used by Road A1A. These are specific and easily addressable issues. Axem Titanium (talk) 15:55, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for making those fixes. I grouped some sentences together to address SounderBruce's proseline concerns. Passing. Axem Titanium (talk) 19:49, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that breast cancer patients became a primary patient population for nurse navigation after Lillie Shockney reported the impact of the program at Johns Hopkins Hospital? Source: https://www.myamericannurse.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/an12-Oncology-Navigtion-1201.pdf "Breast cancer navigation became a primary patient population focus of nurse navigation when Lillie Shockney, MAS, BS, RN, publicized her success at the Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, Maryland, where she helped increase appointment completions, improve timeliness of care, and expedite chemotherapy start time by 2 weeks."
The article is long enough and new enough with no copyright violations. All of the references are reliable. The article is neutral. Both hooks are cited, but I prefer ALT1. SL93 (talk) 21:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As a promoter, I also greatly prefer ALT1, but I don't quite understand the "nurse navigation" bit. What's the best way to simplify the hook Mary Mark Ockerbloom?~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 15:33, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The "nurse navigation" or "patient navigation" field is one that few people will know and hopefully people will go to the page to find out more about it. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 16:05, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ah I see, is there any way we can rephrase "primary patient population" to make it more accessible for the general reader then Mary Mark Ockerbloom?~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:43, 9 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1a: ... that breast cancer patients became a population who frequently worked with nurse navigators after Lillie Shockney reported the impact of the program at Johns Hopkins Hospital?
...I'm not sure, I think it's still a little unclear. I'll wait to see what another promoter thinks. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:13, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with AirshipJungleman29. It can be confusing to readers based on the lack of context. 48JCLTALK 11:35, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1b: ... that breast cancer patients started to work more frequently with nurse navigators after Lillie Shockney reported the impact of the program at Johns Hopkins Hospital?
Overall: The provided source only gives one player's opinion, but the article cites a second opinion, allowing for "players". If the promoting admin feels that support for this is weak, there's the possibility of using something about the caps being required for use in practice despite third-party research not showing their efficacy. If we do a bobblehead hook, I strongly recommend using the image, as it underscores the point made by the players. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:44, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Soulbust and Crisco 1492: "Bobblehead" would require quotes anyway, but let's hear a 'something about the caps being required for use in practice despite third-party research not showing their efficacy' hook.--Launchballer 07:53, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking something like ALT1 ... that the NFL has required players in most positions to wear Guardian Caps(pictured) during training even though third-party research has questioned their effectiveness? But this is Soulbust's party, so I defer to them. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:40, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Crisco 1492: "Most positions" wouldn't really be appropriate. This is 7 of the 11 players on defense (cornerbacks and safeties not required based on article) and 6 of the 11 on offensive (quarterbacks, wide receivers, and running backs not required apparently). However, I recalled hearing that these were rolled out more since 2022. Based on this source, "the only positions not required to wear the caps are kickers, punters, quarterbacks, wide receivers and defensive backs." – Still not enough to say "most" in my opinion. Hey man im josh (talk) 13:13, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Most positions" is based on the article: four in 2022, two in 2023, and two in 2024 (eight position groups) versus three not mandated. However, I'll be the first to admit that I have very little knowledge of or interest in football, hence my deferral to Soulbust. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 13:22, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would describe 'most' as 'more than half', so even six out of 11 would count. I'd include an 'as of' in the hook, but this should check out, although I'd like to hear from Soulbust before I promote this.--Launchballer 13:18, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It just feels disingenuous to state most since at least a quarter of the players on the field at any given time wouldn't be required. The "three groups" are actually broken down as well, so it's actually four groups (safeties and cornerbacks were lumped in as defensive backs). Perhaps if there's a caveat about it being required of the players who make the most contact... but that gets too wordy. Where's the source on questioning the effectiveness? We'd want sourcing on that to consider including it given the stigma that goes along with questioning the usefulness of safety equipment in regards to the NFL. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:27, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that blackface actor George Kunkel(pictured) originally portrayed the character of Uncle Tom to promote slavery during the American Civil War, but later used the part to attack it when his views changed?
Article is well sourced and neutral. It's new enough and long enough. QPQ looks to be underway at Template:Did you know nominations/American Colossus: Big Bill Tilden and the Creation of Modern Tennis. I agree that the hooks could be more interesting, and I think it's because it glosses over why this person is notable. (Both in the hook and in the article body.) Following the links the article about the man himself, there's probably a way to describe at least one aspect of what earned him coverage in reliable sources. Either his fiction, his personal life, or both. Shooterwalker (talk) 15:57, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, this still has a lot of potential. I wanted to check back in to see when you have time to work on this again. Shooterwalker (talk) 16:19, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Shooterwalker, Sorry, my watchlist is not usable (too big), so I can see only pings. Do you have any suggestions for a more interesting hook? I am open to ideas, but as I said, I can't think of anything better, and I think the proposed hooks are "good enough" for DYK rules. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:51, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's ok, Piotrus. I think it's hard to come up with this because the article doesn't really summarize the contents of the book. The article summarizes several reviews of the book, but we don't have the context of what they're reviewing.
Not to create too much more work, but would it be possible to get a short summary of the book in the contents section? It could be similar to the main Jerzy Kosinski article, plus even one sentence about the viewpoint/thesis of the author. If that's too much of a pain, plan B would be to scrape something from the review section. I can do my best to come up with something, but it would definitely be easier with more about the contents of the book. Shooterwalker (talk) 00:28, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Shooterwalker, The problem is that the reviews do not, as far as I recall, provide any comprehensive information on the book's contents, which I assume is a biography of Kosinski, and the reviewers assume everyone will figure that out, I guess. They do not talk about chapter structure or such, just occasionally engage with some parts of his biography presented in the book the reviewer found interesting. And there is the issue of trying to make this article (and hook) be about the book and not about Kosinski's biography, which after all is a different article... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:40, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's okay. We can work without it. I think the hook would end up overlapping with aspects of the subject of the book, but let me see what I can come up with. Shooterwalker (talk) 15:01, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1a: ... that Jerzy Kosinski: A Biography described its subject as a "liar", and yet, one reviewer felt that the author's "studiously neutral position ends up sounding like an apologia for Kosinski".
It leaves out a lot, but hopefully refines the original idea to invite more curiosity. Shooterwalker (talk) 15:15, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds good to me. I approve ALT1a. (I also don't mind if another editor wants to come by with further revisions.) Shooterwalker (talk) 02:08, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Piotrus and Shooterwalker: An article comprising of one lead sentence, two single-sentence sections and one six paragraph Reception section comprising 92% of the article is a unmitigated WP:DYKCOMPLETE fail.--Launchballer 07:57, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Launchballer, Nope. The article pretty comprehensively covers the topic; there is not much else to write about it. I scoured the sources for anything relevant and it is already here. You can't call an article incomplete if there is no source covering other stuff, whatever that other stuff would be. Catalogue bibliographic information + reception is all that exists on this and all that we can therefore include. PS. That said, I'll expand the lead a bit more, since it is too short and did not cover the aforementioned reception. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:31, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's a bit better; I've knocked together the two short sections per MOS:OVERSECTION. I'd question whether merely stating the obvious is enough given "an article about a book that fails to summarize the book's contents [...] is likely to be rejected as insufficiently comprehensive", but I'll hear from another promoter. I also don't see how any of the hooks on this page meet WP:DYKINT; I can suggest the following: ALT2: ... that a New York Times reviewer felt that Jerzy Kosinski: A Biography was perhaps "written in unusual haste" despite being written five years after Kosinski's death?, but you'll need an end-of-sentence citation.--Launchballer 08:59, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Launchballer, Citation added but isn't repeated the same footnote in two consecutive sentences also against MoS? And tnx for the hook idea, it is fine and we can consider it as well. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:13, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I know this might take a significant amount of research, but is it possible to skim the primary source, and offer some more detail about the book's contents? I imagine it overlaps with his actual life story, and we wouldn't need a full read to gather that. Reading the bio would be more to look for a few examples of the author's overall thesis and tone. A couple sentences in this article would do it. Shooterwalker (talk) 16:33, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source: Crew, Danny O. (2015). Suffragist Sheet Music: An Illustrated Catalogue of Published Music Associated with the Women's Rights and Suffrage Movement in America, 1795-1921, with Complete Lyrics. McFarland & Company. p. 337. ISBN9781476607443.
Overall: Articles nominated for double hook are new enough and long enough. Passes earwig, no close paraphrasing was found. The hook is interesting, cited inline, and verified. Image appropriately licensed. 2 QPQs done for each article nominated. GTG. Pseud 14 (talk) 23:52, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that Mary A. Wray, a celebrated American actress of the 19th century, was considered the oldest representative of the American stage at the time of her death in 1892? Source: A Woman of the Century
New enough, long enough, and neutral with all reliable sources. The hook is directly cited. I assume good faith on the book reference. I prefer the first hook. A QPQ is needed. SL93 (talk) 18:53, 21 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@SL93: QPQ done. Re AGF, you could also access them by Wikipedia Library repositories such as Newspapers.com and NewspaperArchive.com. But Google News archive in itself is freely accessible and reliable. And yes, let's go with ALT0. Regards. X (talk) 06:43, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Xoak I was only referring to the Moulton source, which I just now noticed I could have read from the external links section. This is now ready to go. SL93 (talk) 08:31, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looking back at this, this should be promoted without "celebrated". SL93 (talk) 15:48, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
American Colossus: Big Bill Tilden and the Creation of Modern Tennis
Source: Branagh, Kenneth (1991). Beginning. New York: St. Martin's Press. ISBN 978-0-312-05822-7., p.153: "Jimmy and I enlisted the help of Brian Blessed, the Company’s fitness fanatic, who agreed to take us through a training programme"
ALT1: ... that before reading the script for the play Golden Girls, at least nine of the cast members were under the impression that they would be taking the lead role? Source: Branagh, Kenneth (1991). Beginning. New York: St. Martin's Press. ISBN 978-0-312-05822-7., p.152: "I asked around. Jimmy Yuill, Josette Simon, Polly James, Kate Bufferey. They were all playing the lead, and that made nine of us in total."
New enough and long enough. QPQ present. Must AGF on the offline source. No textual issues. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:42, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Article was created on same day as nom. It's adequately long and does not have indications suggesting any issues. AGF on the book sources, hook is verified. QPQ complete. Everything is good to go. B3251(talk) 13:47, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source: "Akinada Tobishima Kaido: The collective term for the seven bridges connecting Kure City and the islands of the Aki Sea in Hiroshima Prefecture. ""Tobishima"" is derived from ""tobi-ishi"", meaning ""stepping stones,"" due to the islands' appearance resembling the stepping stones of a garden.[1]
New enough. Barely long enough prose length (but definitely long enough when the bridge list is included). Well written. Citations check out. (I used Google Translate for the Japanese sources.) But the article needs a few additional citations. First, add citations for the eighth bridge and the existing seven bridges. And add Citation #1 to the hook (about the stepping stones.) Right now, you have just Citation #6. Other than the needed citations, others look good. No obvious copyright issues; the hook is interesting, and QPQ has been done. We're very close. Hybernator (talk) 21:22, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Hybernator: Thanks for the review! I've added the citations as requested. Jpatokal (talk) 01:11, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Jpatokal, thanks for the updates. Could you add the specific page numbers for Citation #4 ("大崎上島町 第2次長期総合計画")? It's a 130-page doc in Japanese, and it'll be helpful to the reader to provide the specific pages. Thanks. Hybernator (talk) 16:34, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. Just reviewed your updates. The article reads well. AGF on Japanese sources. Good to go. Hybernator (talk) 22:17, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jpatokal and Hybernator: Where is your reference for the sentence beginning "The route is unofficially known" and for the eighth row of "Bridges"?--Launchballer 08:00, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The eighth bridge is covered in the prose section with references. Since it doesn't exist yet, there are no facts/figures to list in the table.
As for the Ura-Shimanami nickname, it's strictly unofficial (and not entirely complimentary), but I've added a ref for it as well. Jpatokal (talk) 12:50, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Image: Japan has a fairly restrictive FOP so I am unsure about the image- if we consider it to be a building it would be allowed. Also this article is barely 15XX characters. Are we sure it is WP:DYKCOMPLETE?Bruxton (talk) 14:58, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Architectural works" (建築作品) covers more than just buildings, per this article bridges are explicitly included. As discussed earlier, the article has sufficient prose and an extensive table detailing the bridges. Is there something specific you think is missing from the article? Jpatokal (talk) 10:11, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jpatokal: Thank you for the link about bridge FOP. Also, I was just asking if the article is complete but have not researched it myself. If you feel it is complete I do not object. Bruxton (talk) 17:50, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that Deir ed Darb, Arabic for "monastery of the road", is in fact a Jewish monumental tomb dating to the Second Temple period?
Source: Raviv D., 2013, "Magnificent Tombs from the Second Temple Period in Western Samaria - New Insights", In the Highland's Depth - Ephraim Range and Binyamin Research Studies, Vol. 3, Ariel-Talmon ,pp. 109-142. (Hebrew); Peleg-Barkat, Orit; Raviv (2019).『שלושה פריטים ארכיטקטוניים מן התקופה הרומית הקדומה מאזור הכפר קרוות בני חסן』(PDF). במעבה ההר. 9: 43–58; Palmer, H (1881). "The survey of western Palestine". p. 228.
Reviewed:
Created by Owenglyndur (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
@Mariamnei: Did you mean to post a "maybe" status (purple slash) instead of an "again" status (red arrow)? The again status is for DYK that need another new reviewer, while the slash is for indicating that there is a concern with the article/nomination. Z1720 (talk) 23:27, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Z1720: Hey there! This DYK overall looks pretty good, but since it's my first time doing a DYK review, I thought it'd be better to get another view. What do you think? Mariamnei (talk) 18:32, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mariamnei: Since you outlined some concerns above, I'll let the nominator, Owenglyndur, address them. Z1720 (talk) 19:57, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, thank you for your comments and help to get the DYK right. I did not know i'm not allowed to copy some sentances from another Wikipedia article, especialy whemn it is so relevant for the article i wrote. I will not do it again in the future. Owenglyndur (talk) 07:18, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey @Owenglyndur:, thanks for explaining that! Awesome, I see the pic is up on the article too. Looks like we're good to go! Mariamnei (talk) 08:39, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just a question; the article refers to a "Dar" ("Dar - late 70's", "in Dar's opinion", "led Dar to conclude that"), but I cannot find any reference to any "Dar"?, cheers, Huldra (talk) 22:51, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, it would have been nice to wikilink the SWP authors (Palmer, Conder, Kitchener) -and the page-links. Also; isn't the 3 and 7 references the same (except the page-no)? Why then is one marked in Hebrew, while the other is not? Also ref.3 has a red warning: "Cite journal requires journal=", cheers, Huldra (talk) 23:01, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, as i wrote in an earlier comment by you, i added Dar to the citations. Further more if you look at the citations you can see that Conder, Claude Reignier; Kitchener, Horatio Herbert; Palmer, Edward Henry; Besant, Walter, show In citation 7.
@Owenglyndur, Mariamnei, and Huldra: Just to say I don't intend on promoting this while there is a {{clump}} in the lead section - which by rights shouldn't have any references in the first place.--Launchballer 08:06, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, i think i solved the Clump issue. To remove all citations from the lead?— Preceding unsigned comment added by Owenglyndur (talk • contribs)
Technically compliant with that policy, however you now have a {{which?}} template which needs rectifying before this can be promoted.--Launchballer 13:22, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There is at least one instance of a copyright violation as detailed on the article's talk page. It may be restricted to the specified text but I have not fully investigated so more may be effected. Until that is resolved the article should not appear in DYK. Richard Nevell (talk) 20:20, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just realised; the artickle has the cats Tombs in Israel and Archaeological sites in Israel(!!) Neeedless to say(?), the place is not in Israel. If the author makes another such error, I will ask for a topic-ban from the IP area. Huldra (talk) 20:41, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: For the source, note that there are two newspaper sources that I couldn't get to as it seems that the access through The Wikipedia Library is down currently.
Improved to Good Article status by CommissarDoggo (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Overall: An article that was recently promoted to GA. No picture to review. No QPQ is needed, this is your fourth nomination. No copyright issues on text and files. The hook is interesting and sourced. The article is sourced and I assume good faith on the inaccessible sources. (CC)Tbhotch™ 04:54, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that American educator Lois E. Trott(pictured) ran the first lodging house for homeless girls in America, providing shelter and support for over 1,000 girls annually, all without receiving any payment? Source: A Woman of the Century
ALT0a: ... that American educator Lois E. Trott(pictured) managed the first lodging house for homeless girls in America, providing shelter and support for over 1,000 girls annually, without receiving any remuneration? Source: A Woman of the Century
Overall: The article was created on 22 May 2024. It has a readable prose size of 3211 characters. QPQ not yet done. WP:EARWIG shows now copyvios. More comments later.
Each paragraph has a source. Some parts of the lead and the section "Early life and education" sound very similar to the text in Moulton 1893, p. 722. This needs to be rewritten to avoid WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASE. I didn't check the rest of the article so please make sure that the problem is not found in other parts as well. The hooks are interesting and supported by the source. Both hooks are too long: they should be below 200 characters and ideally below 160 characters. The picture is freely licenced, used in the article, and clear. Phlsph7 (talk) 13:44, 23 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi@Phlsph7: thanks for your evaluation. Some parts of the lead and the section "Early life and education" sound very similar Because they are similar. I've used it as a source material, and "the article merely presents standard facts for a topic like this in standard sequence. The article does not copy any creative words or phrases, similes or metaphors." And a direct comparison with the Moulton source shows no violation. However, all of these becomes irrelevant here because the dictionary is in public domain and properly attributed in the source section. Regardless PD or not, the article does not closely paraphrase, rather presents standard facts in an orderly sequence. WP:LIMITED exists. Although redundant, I've now added a PD template as well in the ref section (which is usually done if it's a case of somewhat direct copy-paste, although this isn't the case here). Re the blurb's lentgh, while nominating I made sure they are under 200 characters. And yes shorter blurbs would be better. We may simply remove the "American educator" bits: ALT0b ... that Lois E. Trott(pictured) ran the first lodging house for homeless girls in America, providing shelter and support for over 1,000 girls annually, all without receiving any payment? ALT0c... that Lois E. Trott(pictured) ran the first lodging house for homeless girls in America, providing shelter and support without receiving any payment?
Let me know which one you prefer or if have your own opinion. Regards. X (talk) 07:24, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The template should solve the close-paraphrase problem. I wasn't aware that the phrase "(pictured)" does not count towards the character limit (per WP:DYK200), which means that the original hooks pass the test. I think all that remains is the QPQ. Phlsph7 (talk) 07:55, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
QPQ Done. Thanks. X (talk) 08:14, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: This is a fascinating article. There are so many potential hooks! Nazis, football, thieves... everything looks good to me. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 14:10, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good to go. Article is new enough, just long enough, and has the proper sourcing. Earwig tool shows a very low copyvio%. The article is presentable, and the hook is both sourced properly and particularly interesting. QPQ is unnecessary here. Should be all good. Soulbust (talk) 15:23, 25 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
New to DYK. Article looks fine but the hook is a bit awkward - maybe try ...that "NewJeansNim," a DJ[ing] monk, was credited with reviving interest in Buddhism among South Korean youth[s]? (Bracketed parts are ones I might add or remove.) Also the guy's nickname is NewJeansNim (not NewJeanNim) and the article uses his real name as the title (though I've seen a fair amount of DYKs that were TV Tropes-style potholed). Wuju Daisuki (talk) 00:46, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This looks on track. No QPQ required. Article meets requirements as far as length and sourcing. ALT1 will age a little better, but there might be a clearer way to phrase it. Did you want to take a shot at re-working it a bit? I don't mind trying to help. Shooterwalker (talk) 16:25, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Did you know that in 2021, Nickelodeon launched Avatar Studios to produce new projects set in the world of Avatar: The Last Airbender". Does that work? Zingo156 (talk) 13:39, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Shooterwalker, if you are approving this nomination, you need to use the appropriate icon to indicate this and so the bot can tell the review is complete. If you aren't, what else might need to be done? Have you completed the neutrality and copyvio checks? The hook sourcing check? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 01:47, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
My mistake, and I can give it the approval icon. I can confirm this meets all the requirements, including copyvio and WP:NPOV. I am standing by in case there is anything else. Shooterwalker (talk) 18:34, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that the Sam Kee Building(pictured), recognized by Guinness World Records as the "narrowest commercial building in the world", was built on a bet between two businessmen?
ALT1: ... that the title of "narrowest commercial building in the world" is contested between the Sam Kee Building(pictured) in Vancouver, British Columbia, and the Hendel Building in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania? Source: Mellon, Steve (May 30, 2004). "Here: In Downtown". Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. p. F9. Archived from the original on February 5, 2010.
ALT2: ... that Chinese-Canadian businessman Sam Kee built the Sam Kee Building(pictured), a narrow spite house, after the city took his land without compensating him? Source: "Sam Kee Building". Canadian Register of Historic Places. Parks Canada.
Comment: A very curious building in my hometown with many interesting details, too many to fit in one DYK nomination. The hooks offered here are ordered by my personal preference.
5x expanded by Yue (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.
Overall: The fivefold is borderline met here as per my calculation. All other criteria are fulfilled. I've done some minor copy-editing. ALT0 is the most intriguing of the 3. X (talk) 08:10, 24 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Xoak and Yue: It is short of the 5x expansion by my computation. Expansion start:2190 finish:9508. For a 5x expansion it should be 10950 characters. So 10950-9508=1442 characters short. I will see if editors are ok with an IAR exemption. Bruxton (talk) 18:56, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Bruxton: I calculated based on prose size, per WP:DYK5X. I used the prose's word count, which was 296 words before my edits and 1501 words after my initial expansion. I now see that the criteria is characters and not words, which I would be short by 73 (1905 × 5 = 9525; 9525 − 9452 = 73). However, I would argue that, whether it be 73 by my calculation or 1442 by yours, the article has been significantly expanded in the spirit of the guideline. Yue🌙 20:03, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Xoak and Yue: You can get this tool so you see how I worked out the math. User:Shubinator/DYKcheck. It is short 1442 characters not 73. Discussion at WT:DYK seems to be for running your article even though it is short. So I will continue my checks. Bruxton (talk) 22:44, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure I have ever seen a sentence cited to a map in this way, source for "In 1912, Vancouver City Council expropriated without compensation 2,199.24 square feet (204.316 m2), or about 79 per cent, of the above-ground portion of the lot." I do not have time to stick with this so will allow another promotor to check this out before promotion. Bruxton (talk) 22:51, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5x expanded, article is NPOV and reliably-sourced, hook is interesting, reliably-sourced in-article. Verified QPQ required in order to pass. ViperSnake151 Talk 23:32, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks ViperSnake151. Have added QPQ above. Also changed "in" to "into" in the hook as I think it's better. Cielquiparle (talk) 04:16, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:NEWSORG, the source would be primary. It could be attributed to the author, but it's a hard fact. Could the citation be switched to a secondary source? Rjjiii (talk) 18:54, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that the two songs of Op. 1byArnold Schönberg(pictured), "Abschied" (Farewell) and "Dank" (Thanks), were first performed in Vienna in 1900, with Zemlinsky at the piano, to a hostile reaction of the audience? Source: Gerlach
Comment: We are in a Schönberg year. I couldn't believe his Op. 1 (not 12-tone yet, rather expressionist but no room for that in a hook) had no article. Planning to write more about text and music but busy the next few days. I believe we should picture him this year ;)
Created by Gerda Arendt (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2107 past nominations.
Great work as always on these pieces. QPQ, article eligibility, source, and general presentation checks out. The hook seems like it could be condensed just a tad to ease readability; maybe something along the lines of "ALT1 ... the first public performance of two songs from Arnold Schoenberg's (pictured)Op. 1 was met with hostile reactions from the audience?" The picture is pretty nice! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 23:23, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you fort the review! Yes, it could be condensed, but what would be left had much in common with other pieces, and I find the position of pictured awkward. We should also not say that in Wikipedia voice when it was the wording of one critic, also the ridicule in the other's wording was perhaps a bit more unique. "two songs from" is correct but misleading, because the opus is exactly these two songs. Please give me some more days to write about text and music, both loaded with emotion which the titles suggest a bit, I think. (But Schönberg knew why he didn't call them simply lieder (songs) but - like Brahms sometimes - Gesänge, a more sophisticate form for which English has no word, or has it? Then we could use that.) - You could also listen. I did, see the Liviu Holender hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:39, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Zemlinsky was not only the pianist, but Schönberg's teacher, the dedicatee of the songs, and to become his brother in law. Some will associate that with the name. He is also one of the composers whose music was banned by the Nazis, see the Holender hook. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:42, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have to agree with Generalissima here. The original hook has too much detail and is thus too dense. The alternative wording proposed is direct to the point and makes the point of the hook clearer. Readers might get lost with the first hook, the second hook is much more understandable. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:43, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
While all this is true and not new: we celebrate 150 years of Schönberg and his music, and it's nothing new and no surprise that people react to it with hostility. I was surprised that his first works were songs. I was surprised that they were recorded by four of the greatest names singing and playing (but you may not know them so I dropped the idea of saying that). I was surprised to learn how close Zemlinsky was to him, not just teacher but friend and later family. - Did you listen? - The music of these two composers were banned by the Nazis, - we could do a bit more positive for it than saying the reaction was hostility, no? - On 29 May The Rite of Spring was premiered to an almost riot, DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:23, 29 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As a compromise, can't we just go with Generalissima's wording? It basically says the same thing as the original hook except more concisely, and if the point is to promote Schoenberg, they still do it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:28, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
MONTENSEM is in the process of expanding. We'll see what material we'll get. This is a substantial composition, and just to say that the ignorant public didn't like it seems too little, on top of too unspecific.--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:44, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I still think Generalissima's wording is the more interesting option here compared to the quote so let's just go with that. I've taken the liberty of labeling that proposal as ALT1, and relabeling the new ALT1 as ALT2. I've verified ALT1 in the source and it's the one most likely to get readers to click on the article. The rest of the review is per Generalissima. With that said, this is without prejudice towards whatever new hooks come out of the expansion, and this does not preclude approval of said hooks depending on how they turn out. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:40, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We talk about a key composer's Opus one, a piece of significance. Can you - anybody - please explain to me why we would find a fact interesting that this piece shares with hundreds of other compositions?? Instead of saying something that is unique to this piece? - "lavished with incredible pomp but without any concession ..." - composing without any concession is what Schoenberg would do for life ;) - Alma Mahler, - I dropped the pipe in ALT2. We had this gorgeous DYK about her, remember? She is known and interesting, and she phrased an interesting observation interestingly, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:30, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Article looks good -- created within the window, long enough and generally in a good state. All statements are sourced and I can see no BLP or copyvio issues: the article does err on the positive side, and there might be some relevancy questions about e.g. the volume of his notes or his high-school disciplinary record, but none which represent serious problems or should prevent a DYK appearance. I do however think that His 2018 interview with Quincy Jones, in which the subject ... revealed an affair between Marlon Brando and Richard Pryor, went viral on social media needs a rephrase: revealed means that it was absolutely factual, whereas it seems that the claim is far more contentious and a serious matter to at least one living person. It hardly needs saying that ALT0 is the stronger hook: there's a WP:SELFPUB question-mark over it that would be solved by changing it to "once claimed to have..." or similar. UndercoverClassicistT·C 19:24, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@UndercoverClassicist: Thanks for the review! In regards to the Brando/Pryor sentence, let me know if the phrasing (alluded to an alleged affair) looks more solid — I also added another reference to substantiate the whole topic a bit. Also cut the suspension sentence, I was wavering about whether to include it. To couch the hook a little bit, how's this below?
ALT2: ... that David Marchese once recalled accidentally posting a picture of a cat's testicles on Salon.com?
On June 16, 2019 in Skłody-Piotrowice, Aleksandra and Hieronim Skłodowski were commemorated as part of the "Called by Name" project of the Pilecki Institute through the pictured monument.
Article seems presentable enough. It's also eligible in terms of newness and length. No evidence of copyvio. The first source in the article checks out. This hook seems like it needs "the" added before "Called by Name", but otherwise is interesting enough. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 23:16, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Both articles are in good shape, I don't see any evidence of copyvio or anything that would need fixing before running. AGF on the hook, but it's supported and cited in both articles. QpQs check off. Both articles are eligible in terms of length and newness. Seems good to go here. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 23:13, 27 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Very short article barely over the minimum length about an interesting habitat of the Read Sea. Newness is ok, hook is cited and interesting. The article is well sourced, and earwig could not detect any plagiarism. Picture has a valid license and clear at 100 pixels. No QPQ required. My only remark for @Hike395: is that it would be nice to add to the article some information present in the two online source about the economic and ecological significance of the mangroves. This would make the article longer and above all more interesting. Alex2006 (talk) 05:54, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Added material about economic benefits (e.g., ecosystem services) and more about ecological significance. — hike395 (talk) 06:14, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Very good, good to go now! Alex2006 (talk) 08:35, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Article seems in good enough shape. Hook is interesting, and although I am limited to English, the news article seems to directly confirm the hook even without knowledge of Indonesian. No evidence of copyvio, fully sourced, and the hook fact is correctly cited in-article. Just needs that QPQ. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 03:32, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that a mail-order catalogue offered a "Rocking Ram" toy designed by Charleen Kinser for $1600 in 1985?
Source: Gilman-Tompkins, Sherri (8 May 1985). "Tiniest Yuppies Treated Royally in this Catalogue". Chicago Tribune – via ProQuest. Take the $1,600 Rocking Ram by Forever Toys, which will be available in the next catalogue. The animal's fleece is made of three types of sheepskin, hand pieced and stitched.
Interesting enough — it might be good to include a conversion template for readers unaware of what $1600 means in an 1980s US context, but I don't think this is strictly required. Hook does check out with the source, and the article is long enough, eligible, and fully cited. I don't see any evidence of copyvio. Looks good to go. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 02:58, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Everything looks good to me! A very interesting list. Preference is for either toe hook. Noting that DYK Check shows less than 1500 characters, but the text in the list proper is well over the limit — Chris Woodrich (talk) 20:45, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source: https://www.essence.com/news/black-women-leading-the-fight-for-voting-rights/ Since the November elections, lawmakers in 49 states have proposed over 400 measures to restrict voting access... Those detained included Rep. Joyce Beatty (D-OH), Melanie Campbell, Clayola Brown, Barbara Arnwine, Linda Sarsour, and several others who engaged in civil disobedience.
Reviewed:
Created by CaptainAngus (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Article is new enough and long enough. It is presentable, well-sourced, written neutrally, and BLP-compliant. Earwig looks good. The hook is cited and interesting. QPQ is not required. The article's image is freely licensed. @CaptainAngus: The hook phrase "protesting against ongoing proposed voter restrictions" reads a little awkward to me. I suggest dropping the "against ongoing" or something like "...that Melanie L. Campbell was arrested for civil disobedience while protesting proposed restrictions on voting rights?" gobonobo+c 16:55, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Gobonobo: I'm good with your suggested streamlining! Thank you very much! CaptainAngus (talk) 22:24, 4 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Landsberg, Sylvia, The Medieval Garden, British Museum Press, ISBN9780714120805, p. 7; ...manuscript illustrations are invaluable ... [and] are to be thought of ...as vivid documentary evidence"
I’ll review this. Thriley (talk) 03:50, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Article moved from draft 31 May. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hook is interesting and sourced. Image good. I marked several paragraphs that need citations. Once those are done and QPQ added, this will be ready. Thriley (talk) 20:31, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Both sorted now. Johnbod (talk) 21:57, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Looks great. All set. Thriley (talk) 01:21, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
SL93 I know, but it also ideally would have a source given in the submission above. The article otherwise is in good shape and eligible, the QPQ checks out, and I see no evidence of copyvio. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 19:45, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Generalissima Can you give a final approval template if this is approved? SL93 (talk) 20:55, 1 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
SL93 I'm still waiting for you to add the source to your submission itself. I know it's in the article, but it needs to be added here as well for reference reasons. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 00:19, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Generalissima If at some point in the future the source is removed or altered, it would make verifying the hook after the fact extremely difficult. It's an edge case, sure, but it's best to make sure everything on here has a listed source. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 00:47, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again, no. I'm not doing it on principle at this point, because it isn't required. It is already here anyway up above. SL93 (talk) 00:50, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
After some consultation, it seems that including the source in the nomination is standard practice, but not strictly required. I apologize for my ignorance on the matter. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 02:52, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that while both are named from the same place, the genus Republica(pictured) is not the genus Republica?
Source: Archibald & Cannings 2021 doi:10.11646/zootaxa.4966.3.11materials and methods for location data "We examined a single fossil in lacustrine shale recovered from exposure B4131 of the Tom Thumb Tuff Member
of the Klondike Mountain Formation at Republic, Washington, U.S.A."
Wolfe & Wehr 1987 doi:10.3133/b1597 page 2 fig 1 shows the location in Republic of site 8428 of the Klondike Mountain Formation, page 22 gives the genus etymology and 23 the type locality occurrence in Republic
Overall: My first time reviewing a dual-article nomination, and I appreciate the effort which must have gone into it!
Both articles moved to mainspace yesterday. QPQ is done. No plagiarism detected via Earwig. For both articles, length, referencing and image licensing are all good. For the insect, I think that the first paragraph of "Description" and of "Paleoenvironment" are both a bit long and ought to be split up a bit, and that "Paleoenvironment" should have at least one image - even the location map over at Klondike Mountain Formation would be really helpful. For the plant, you really should move the distribution images a couple of paragraphs down to avoid MOS:SANDWICH, and the last sentence of the lead is missing a period. Still, I would not hold up the nomination for those reasons alone.
To me, it is the hook which has multiple significant issues. It may not be grammatically correct (shouldn't it be named after the same place, not named from the same place?), it is really confusing and vague, as you have no way to tell what place is actually being referred to without clicking on both links, and I feel that a lot of readers would just say "So what?" when they see it as currently written. Suggested wording: Alt1"...that extinct plants and damselflies from the Eocene were discovered and named after RepublicinWashington?"
I also think that both articles should have a sentence which makes this connection between the two more explicit than the mere hatnote at the top. Lastly, you should at least add DOI and ISBN links to your DYK citations. Right now, there is no way to tell which citation refers to which fossil without going through the articles' references, and we should not have to do that. InformationToKnowledge (talk) 13:05, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
InformationToKnowledge The hook as written is a play on the hemihomonym use of the genus name Republica for both a plant and an animal, but I like alt1 as well. I've added the dois for each source and a map to Republica weatbrooki, plus added splits in the Description and Paleoenvironment sections. A sentence calling out the hemihomonymy has been added to each article under classification. The image/map placement for Republics (plant) is more problematic though. I edit on a wide screen desktop monitor, and my view of the article has the maps already almost all the way down to the start of References. Ideally I was wanting a single map, but I wasn't able to find one I could make work for the West coast sites plus Alaska.--Kevmin§ 18:37, 31 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Taking conciseness into account and a matching the details of the articles:
Source:『Totalt har televerket satsat två miljoner kronor i kampanjen. [...] Tjejerna i laget var först i Sverige. De är nu inne på tredje året』[‘In total, Televerket has invested SEK 2 million in the campaign. [...] The girls in the team were the first in Sweden. They are now in their third year’]
New enough and long enough. First nomination—and a good one! A topic I would not have expected to read about. Must assume good faith on the offline, Swedish-language sourcing. Is there more concise syntax for the USD conversion? That ginormous syntax can't go on the Main Page, but the result can probably be substed! Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:07, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
AGF on the source, as I don't have access to it. Article is eligible, in good shape (fully cited, well written), and I can't find any evidence of copyvio. No QPQ needed. Looks like we're good to go here. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 02:50, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT3: ... that prior to broadcast, the "unspecified marque" on Can't Touch This had been used as an example of why British game show prizes were "rubbish"?
Comment: I can't get over The Telegraph, The Times, The Guardian, and even the BBC all printing as gospel that he actually did it - he was in fact shot out of a catapult. Where's your fact checking?
5x expanded by Launchballer (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 231 past nominations.
Overall: Article is new enough, long enough. QPQ is done. AGF on the Japanese- and Korean-language sources for plagiarism etc. Hook isn't the most earth shattering, but it does seem to be the most interesting fact in the article. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:40, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source: Grierson, S., Duff, D. G., & Sinclair, R. S. (1985). Natural Dyes of the Scottish Highlands. Textile History, 16(1), 23–43. https://doi.org/10.1179/004049685793701223
Overall: New enough, long enough, sourced and neutral. Everything looks to be plagiarism free. The hook is cited and interesting! The QPQ is not applicable as the nominator has under 5 nominations. Cheers and have a wonderful day! Ornithoptera (talk) 01:41, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"The Delta's thundering ascent marked the first time the Defense Department purchased a rocket and launch services from a private company instead of NASA."
ALT1: ... that the 150 ft (46m) long retractable booms on the LACE satellite (pictured) were the longest ever put in space at the time of launch?
Source: Amato, Ivan. "13". Taking Technology Higher The Naval Center for Space Technology and the Making of the Space Age (p. 252)
https://www.nrl.navy.mil/Portals/38/PDF%20Files/Taking_Technology_Higher_Amato.pdf
"In the initial days and weeks after the LACE launch, he and colleagues spent
many hours at the Blossom Point ground station in southern Maryland checking the
spacecraft’s systems, which included, among other superlatives, the longest retractable
booms that had ever flown in space"
ALT2: ... that the Ultraviolet Plume Instrument onboard the LACE satellite (pictured) tracked rocket plumes from space for the United States's Star Wars program?
Source: Naval Research Laboratory (October 1, 1991). "LACE" (PDF). Defense Technical Information Center. Washington DC: Naval Research Laboratory. Retrieved April 4, 2024.
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA339075.pdf
(p. 2): "SDIO [Strategic Defense Initiative Organization] began discussing the addition of an instrument to take video images of rocket plumes by their UV emission."
Comment: Hook: technically LACE was launched alongside another "Star Wars" satellite as a dual payload on the same rocket, however, LACE was deployed first so it still was the "first" satellite launched/deployed in the mission
AltHook: I would love to say that these were the longest booms *ever* deployed in space, but I haven't found any up-to-date sources or papers stating that.
AltHook2: "Star Wars" is the popular nickname for the Strategic Defense Initiative program
Created by SpacePod9 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Overall: Article nominated for DYK within 7 days of reaching Good Article status. The article is long enough, has over 1,500 words of prose, and is properly cited. Earwig picked up a copyright violation 0%, maing it unlikely. QPQ is done. AGF on locked sources. The article in general has a lot of red links and I think that, if there are no plans on creating those articles, they should be removed. Hook is cited, but it doesn't seem particularly interesting to people outside of fans of football, so another one is recommended. lullabying (talk) 02:51, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 ... that Gedling Town F.C.'s nickname "The Ferrymen" was inspired by the name of a pub located near the team's stadium?
@Lullabying and Narutolovehinata5: Hi both. I based the original hook on a previous DYK of mine. I think it's also fair to say it's difficult to find an interesting fact about a grassroots football team that isn't also about football. However, if we prefer Naruto's suggestion, how about: ... that Gedling Town F.C.'s nickname "The Ferrymen" was inspired by the name of a pub located next to the team's stadium? Curlymanjaro (talk) 22:57, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would prefer ALT1orALT1b. Good to go. lullabying (talk) 20:46, 14 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Possibly a bit early, but this would make a good April Fools' hook. Lk95 started this off and I just added a bunch to it, a reviewer can adjudicate on whether anyone else deserves credits.
Created by Lk95 (talk) and Launchballer (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 233 past nominations.
Sampling/interpolating other people's tracks is a common practice, so I don't see anything unique/interesting about Eminem doing so here, especially when it isn't the first time he's done so in his career. Try coming up with something else. Page length and QPQ are all set, though. I also don't see any neutrality or copyright issues. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 23:06, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That hook was intended as an April Fools' joke, I was trying to suggest that Harry Houdini makes use of abracadabra - hooks on that day have a little more license to violate WP:EGG. ALT1: ... that Eminem promoted "Houdini" with a video in which David Blaine ate a glass of wine?--Launchballer 08:50, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It wasn't a funny joke, and while ALT1 is much more intriguing, that isn't supported by the given link. You'll just need to add a ref backing that up before we can move forward with this. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 12:12, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I just watched the video, and what actually happened was a little less dramatic: ref #4, which is what I'm using, says "downing a glass of wine and eating the glass". I've amended the article to that effect.--Launchballer 12:24, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: I think the hook could do with a few alts, as having read the article, there are some other details that stand out to me as more interesting than the award she won. Feel free to ping me once some ALT hooks are written.Grnrchst (talk) 09:29, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
GrnrchstALT1 ... that Gladys Stone Wright, one of the first woman band directors in the United States, was the first one in Oregon?
ALT2 ... that when Gladys Stone Wright was the first woman band director at an educators' conference, male directors applauded her band's performance? SL93 (talk) 12:49, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
SL93 I think the hook that she was "one of the first woman band directors in the United States" and that she was "the first one in Oregon" is a bit repetitive, I'd advise picking one. --Grnrchst (talk) 12:52, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source: Orschiedt et al. (2023) "The Shaman and the Infant: The Mesolithic Double Burial from Bad Dürrenberg, Germany" p.128 "This vertebra also shows an anomaly, which is limited to the vertebral process in the form of a protruding bone clasp. This makes a blockage of one of the blood vessels leading to the brain plausible. This can be caused intentionally by adopting a certain head posture."
Article is long enough and recently given GA status. It is presentable, well-sourced, and neutral. Earwig looks fine. The hooks are both cited and interesting. QPQ is not required. gobonobo+c 18:11, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Would like to use this as a second target for the Bjarne Store-Jakobsen hook in Template:Did you know/Preparation area 1, the nom for that hook is on board, will QPQ asap
Created by Valereee (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 72 past nominations.
Overall: New enough, long enough, sourced and plagiarism free according to Earwig. The hook has been previously approved and everything seems to check out with me. If there are no issues everything should be fine with me. Great job Valereee, you've done an amazing job in taking initiative creating this article. Ornithoptera (talk) 21:04, 5 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ornithoptera and Valereee: I find it concerning that both the source given for the hook and the source in the article for the marriage don't actually name the father/husband. I see it in [8], which is used in the articles, so that source should be replicated. Noting also that the relevant Bjarne Store-Jakobsen sentence has not been adapted to note the film has two stars. CMD (talk) 00:49, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just noting here that I've pulled Bjarne from prep; it can go back in when Esther's been approved. I've added the reference myself.--Launchballer 09:07, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I'll complete the review since I've somewhat started, pretty much confirming the work of Ornithoptera, and I echo the appreciation of the quick work here. Since it's in the hook, also a quick note of appreciation to Ornithoptera for the detailed article on what seems quite an impactful person.
This article is new and long enough. It is adequately sourced. Running a few spotchecks I found no plagiarism (unless "a member of the Kainai First Nation" is not a common phrasing, which I feel it is but this is not an area I am highly versed in). I mentioned one sourcing quibble above, and noticed but did not mention the far too short lead, but Launchballer handled both of these. On the hook itself, I do not have access to two of the sources used across both articles, but it is backed up by the source I mentioned above which is already in both articles. Before approval, I note the Bjarne Store-Jakobsen article and the Esther Tailfeathers article frame the hook sentence a bit differently, either they are joint focuses or he is the main focus. The wikilinks to the Esther Tailfeathers article should also be adjusted on the Bjarne Store-Jakobsen article, as they don't seem to reflect the page creation. I would also like to know which source mentions the divorce, as I didn't find that in my spotchecks. Best, CMD (talk) 11:53, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey, Chipmunkdavis, thanks for the review! I've asked Ornithoptera to take a look at those three sections, as they have seen the film while I don't have access to it. From the reviews it looks like we could possibly tweak to
As the film deals not only with his and his wife's relationship but also with that of him and his daughter, and the film investigates how his experiences in the residential schools informed those relationships. Valereee (talk) 13:30, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Works for me as an alt. It doesn't sound like the whole film is easily encapsulated in 200 characters, but the mythical love story aspect is hooky and prominent in the relevant sources. Waiting for Ornithoptera to confirm, I am copying over the relevant DYKmake coding here which should™️ ensure it gets copied over when this is promoted to my understanding. CMD (talk) 13:38, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi@Chipmunkdavis:! Thank you for taking the time to go through the article. There are a few questions that are raised in this discussion that I have missed that I will do my best to answer. Stofjell's article Elsewheres of Healing: Trans-Indigenous Spaces in Elle-Máijá Apiniskim Tailfeathers' Bihttoš is the primary source in terms of mentioning the divorce ("Tailfeathers uses Bihttoš totell the story of her parents’ marriage and divorce against the backdrop of agrowing global Indigenous rights movement") and Elle-Maija's mother ("The interspersed archival photographs are well-lit, but the liveaction sequences, featuring Elle-Máijá, her Kainai mother Esther Tailfeathers") and father ("Among other things, it is also very much a film honoring her father (“Áhčči”), Bjarne Store-Jakobsen"). If I have missed any other questions that require addressing please let me know and I'll do my best to adjust accordingly! Ornithoptera (talk) 16:52, 6 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, and thanks all for the edits made to the articles. Go for ALT0a multi-hook then. Best, CMD (talk) 00:14, 7 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Not really a fan of the hook as unless one understands the significance of the Orchestra in question it's not exactly going to attract attention. Proposing an alternative:
Overall: Thank you, 4meter4, for a very useful and comprehensive article. Although I like ALT1, I don't agree with the reason given for it: there will be a lot of people in Canada who would be offended by people of another nationality suggesting that their orchestra is insignificant, if they had seen that comment. That said, there is nothing wrong with ALT1, and it does the job required by DYK. So - good to go with ALT0 or ALT1, with preference for ALT1. Storye book (talk) 09:36, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
i'm using machine translation, but the source does not mention bribery, just that they were arrested for corruption. also, waiting on qpq. no issues with article, agf on non-english sources. ltbdl (talk) 02:30, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Ltbdl: QPQ added. Re the bribery vs corruption, BBC doesn't mention it yeah, so use the other inline ([10]). Juxlos (talk) 16:13, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
that only says that anton was arrested for bribery. ltbdl (talk) 02:16, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yaqut was also arrested for the same case – as recipient instead of giver though. Added a third reference ([11]) that's more explicit. Juxlos (talk) 05:30, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
good to go. ltbdl (talk) 11:53, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that several 1964 New York World's Fair pavilions were later sent to ski lodges and universities? Source: Multiple in article, including Samuel, Lawrence R. (August 30, 2007). The End of the Innocence: The 1964–1965 New York World's Fair (1st ed.). Syracuse University Press. pp. 85-86; Cohn, Al (June 24, 1967). "What Ever Happened to the World's Fair". Newsday. p. 14W.
Comment: More hooks later. I copied a few paragraphs from the 1964 New York World's Fair article, but that info was added by me when I completely rewrote that article on June 4, so I think it still meets the newness criterion.
Created by Epicgenius (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 656 past nominations.
I like ALT1 the best, and the sourcing checks out on it. Article is eligible from newness and is in pretty good shape all around. No evidence of copyvio. QPQ checks out. I think everything here is in good working order! Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 18:08, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No QPQ needed. Hook is interested, although you really should list the source again here; it's de Crespigny, Rafe (2018). Generals of the South: The Foundation and Early History of the Three Kingdoms State of Wu. This checks out, however. Article seems in decent shape, although might need a round of copyediting; it's presentable, but some of the sentences are phrased a little clunkily. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 01:03, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source:『One thing we need to clear up: Contrary to the English translation on many videos of the song, including Wartke and Fischer’s official YouTube video, rhabarberkuchen is — repeat with me! — not rhubarb pie... Of all the elements of a proper rhabarberkuchen, the streusel topping seems most non-negotiable. Hansche remembers her mom making “rhabarber-streusel-kuchen” — a crumb cake with a layer of poached rhubarb and a streusel made from flour, butter, and sugar — as part of a “kaffe und kuchen” (coffee and cake) afternoon tradition.』--Morgan, Audrey (May 8, 2024). "Why Is a Rap Song About Rhubarb Cake Blowing Up on TikTok?". Food & Wine. Same source, and multiple others cited on the page, document the "barbarians" in the song lyrics.
Article is new enough and long enough. It is presentable, well-sourced, neutral, and BLP-compliant. Earwig checks out. The hook is cited and interesting. Images used in the article have licenses. QPQ has been done. This is a fun article, excellent material for DYK. Well done. gobonobo+c 16:15, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that to encourage the development of Bissau-Guinean cinema, one foreign filmmaker provided the country's film institute with cameras, lights, and a Steinbeck guitar?
Source: Laranjeiro, Catarina (2021), Blum, Françoise; Kiriakou, Héloïse; Mourre, Martin; Basto, Maria-Benedita (eds.), "The Bissau-Guinean Cinema: A Nation", Socialismes en Afrique (in French), Éditions de la Maison des sciences de l’homme, pp. 519–535, doi:10.4000/books.editionsmsh.51480., ISBN 978-2-7351-2698-9, retrieved 2024-06-08
ALT1: ... that Amílcar Cabral sent four Bissau-Guineans to learn film technique in Cuba, hoping to stimulate filmmaking in the country?Source: Arenas, Fernando (2017). "The Filmography of Guinea-Bissau's Sana Na N'Hada: From the Return of Amílcar Cabral to the Threat of Global Drug Trafficking". Portuguese Literary and Cultural Studies: 69. ISSN 2573-1432.
ALT2: ... that much of the early cinema of Guinea-Bissau was lost after the country's 1980 coup?Source: Cavoulacos, Sophie (June 8, 2024). "MoMA Presents: Filipa César's Spell Reel". MOMA. Retrieved June 8, 2024.
Reviewed:
Created by Lbal (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Well done! Nominator is exempt from QPQ. The article was created within a week at the time of nomination and exceeds the minimum length for DYK. The article is generally within policy; I did make a copyedit to fix some typos and linkage issues. A basic copyvio check found no concerns. Sourcing is sufficient and high-quality. All of the hooks are cited and mentioned within the article, and I believe they pass our standards for interesting hooks. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:02, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that despite specializing in literature and serving as a senior editor of the Zhonghua Book Company, historian Zhang Zhenglang never published a single book of his own?
Source: Lu, Zongli (2007). "A Short Biography of Professor Zhang Zhenglang". Chinese Literature: Essays, Articles, Reviews (CLEAR). 29. https://www.jstor.org/stable/25478409
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
Interesting:
QPQ: Done.
Overall: Good to go! But, out of curiosity, where was "My Ten Years at the Institute of History and Philology" published in 1998? In a journal, or somewhere else? Thanks, A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 20:42, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@A Thousand Doors:in新學術之路: 中央研究院歷史語言研究所七十周年紀念文集, Volume 1 (1998) [A New Academic Road: Collected Works Commemorating the 70th Anniversary of the Institute of History and Philology, Academia Sinica, Volume 1]. But the version I use was from the Peking University website - I'm kind of unsure how to cite it in this case. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 21:44, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source: Ballas, Teeka; Bodry, Catherine; Bowman, Jessica; Coffman, Linda; Heller, Carolyn; Kernaghan, Sue; McBeath, Chris; Moure, Celeste; Readicker-Henderson, Edward; Reale, Tom; Schoenbohm, Laurel; Wyatt, Sarah (2009). Kealy, Kelly (ed.). Fodor's Alaska Ports of Call 2009. New York: Fodor's. p. 167. ISBN978-1-4000-0707-3. ISSN1520-0205. Retrieved 2024-06-08 – via Google Books.
The book notes: "We don't recommend it if you're looking for authenticity, but the Great Alaskan Lumberjack Show is a 60-minute lumberjack contest providing a Disneyesque taste of old-time woodsman skills, including ax throwing, buck-sawing, springboard chopping, log-rolling duels, and a 50-foot tree climb that ends in a free fall."
Article was moved to mainspace today, so is new enough. At over 3000 characters, it is long enough. The article reads neutrally and properly uses in-line citations. The copyvio detector finds no issues. Both hooks are interesting and are cited in-line. No QPQ is required (though will be on your next one, have fun with that!). Everything looks good to go! SilverserenC 23:20, 8 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Review ongoing: Promoted to GA on 9th and nominated here for DYK on 10th June. Article is long enough. 2 free images in article from Commons and 2 medias uploaded on enwiki with rationale. No apparent copyvios other than quotes. All the 3 hooks are verifiable as per the sources; but none of them appear in the article as have been presented here in the hook. "Horn line" should be linked or explained. I suggest rephrasing the article words to include these lines. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:44, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Dharmadhyaksha I have fixed the issue for two of the hooks by using more words directly from the article (I opted not to do ALT1 as in retrospect it seems less interesting than the other two). Koopastar (talk) 19:06, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Both original and ALT2 hooks are ok. However i prefer ALT2 more as it is unique for this particular article. All good to go now! §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:18, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Article is long and new enough as well as well written and copyvio-free. However, I would prefer that you cite another reliable, independent source for the critical reception instead of using Rotten Tomatoes, which, while reliable on its own, is not an arbiter of critical consensus; you can still report on the RT scores, though. Hooks are cited both in this page and article, but I prefer ALT1 (that is, with another independent source as I've said) for obvious reasons but with some minor alterations:
ALT0 seems dull and reliant on readers' knowledge of award-giving bodies. Title card image, which is freely-licensed, seems more decorative than encyclopedic within the context of this DYK, so I seriously doubt it's gonna make it to the main page. Since QPQ has been given, this should be good to go once the issues are addressed. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 07:09, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just clump those sources in the article while also rewriting the sentence into, Some critics described the show as necessary comic relief from the activities of the Trump administration., and then remove The fourth season was generally well received from Critical reception and leave the Rotten Tomatoes bit as a standalone sentence. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 12:22, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Drive-by nomination, as it's been around 6.875 days since this was converted from a redirect and I want to get this in under the wire. I have a small amount of work to do, starting with the excision of those ugly WP:CLUMPs. Note that I've included 'credited' because, as can quite clearly be seen in the image in the cited source, series 4 winners Spelbound also contained women. Also noting that the majority of this article was created by an IP.
Created by Launchballer (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 234 past nominations.
Review: Newly expanded article from a redirect meeting the required length size of prose. BLP is notable to exist as a standalone article now passing WP:ARTIST. No apparent copyvios. QPQ done. Rest article seems fine. Problem comes with only the fact that this is a synthesis and hence not perfectly verifiable. Do we have any another source mentioning her to be the first woman winner without a dog? Or else, do we have anything else from the article to a new hook? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:52, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's in HuffPost, which I've added back to the article.--Launchballer 08:42, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
New enough - promoted to GA same day as nomination;
Long enough - 10,948 characters;
QPQ Check - not needed;
Hook is referenced to a secondary source clearly cited in the article, and source has a clear editorial policy;
Hook is interesting - remarkable number of musicians and instruments;
Article is presentable;
Copyvio is clear "Violation Unlikely", most comparison hits are in quotes;
The picture is clear and in the article;
However - while the picture states it is freely licenced, it has been sourced to a facebook post by two people (who retain ownership of the intellectual property per [12]). It is therefore not wholly clear it is freely licenced per WP:IUPC;
Also - the hook needs the rather subjective text "no less than" removed to something more neutral - e.g. "features contributions from", and the article has 2-3 sentences that need citations.
This can nearly be approved without the picture. Alternatively to approve this nom for the main page with the picture, I recommend proof "that the copyright holder has released the image under an acceptable free license". Furthermore please resolve the (relatively minor) hook and citation issues. ResonantDistortion 16:10, 10 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your comments! This picture was sourced from the comments of a Facebook post in a fan community for the Cat Empire. In that post, I requested images of the band on tour, making it clear that I was to use them in a Wikipedia article. Would a screenshot of this post and some of the comments be sufficient proof that this image is freely licensed? SupremeLordBagel (talk to me) 04:01, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks - that's good but I suggest we get this tighter if the image is to go on the main page. Please see this section in the commons VRT [13]. ResonantDistortion 05:15, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll work on contacting the original photographers and get back to you when I can. SupremeLordBagel (talk to me) 09:18, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry that I haven't replied for a while! I think it's more hassle than it's worth to include the image. We'll go ahead without it. SupremeLordBagel (talk to me) 10:58, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Understood and noted, though the licencing on the respective images in the article evidently still need resolution. To get this approved for the hook only can you please (a) create an ALT1a without the "(pictured)" text, and (b) resolve the uncited statements within the article, i.e. "It is also the band's first release since The Cat Empire (2003) to be produced by Andy Baldwin" and "The song debuted at No. 1 on the AMRAP Metro Charts, and stayed in that position for two weeks." ResonantDistortion 14:15, 13 June 2024 (UTC) Done[reply]
for ALT1a. Note: picture not approved. ResonantDistortion 23:10, 13 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Converted from a redirect by Cavarrone (talk). Nominated by Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Article new and long enough at the time of nomination. Length and referencing adequate ("Plot" isn't but that's MOS). No copyvio per Earwig aside from the block of interview quote. Hook interesting, cited inline. Good to go. Juxlos (talk) 16:12, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that Tyla(pictured) delayed her debut album's submission date in order to collaborate with Tems?Source: ref: One of the most powerful tracks is "No. 1," featuring Nigerian R&B star Tems. Tyla even pushed back the deadline to turn in the album so she could lock in the collab.
Reviewed:
Created by Dxneo (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.
Overall: Image isn't appropriate; as per Wikipedia:Did you know/Guidelines, the image used for DYK must be in the article. It is also pending a review to see if it's free... I can't help there, as I've been unable to find where YouTube is keeping its licensing information ever since it was redesigned. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:41, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
dxneo, having it in the article would fix the first issue. I've also been able to confirm the CC-BY license with this archive, so the second part isn't an issue. Once the image is in the article, we're good to go. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 10:04, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(An aside - Apparently the license doesn't show up when I'm logged in and using Premium, but it does when logged out. Good to know). — Chris Woodrich (talk) 10:07, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Chris Woodrich Done, and I can see the license either logged in or not. dxneo (talk) 12:17, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: I unpromoted this hook because I realised it breached WP:DYKIMG ("Try to avoid images that divert readers from the bolded article into a side article"; as such, it should be run without the image. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:27, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
article is long enough, recently promoted to GA and within policy. Hook is short enough and interesting. QPQ not needed. « Gonzo fan2007(talk) @ 21:50, 11 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Aszx5000 and Gonzo fan2007: Comment: Seems like a bold claim. I wonder if we should attribute this claim or bolster it with more robust sources. Or explore a more verifiable hook. Bruxton (talk) 15:14, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Considered" and "one of" make this less bold. I think the article supports both assertions, but if the nominator wants to add an additional source to back it up, it wouldn't hurt. « Gonzo fan2007(talk) @ 15:19, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5x expanded by Gonzo fan2007 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 45 past nominations.
« Gonzo fan2007(talk) @ 21:33, 11 June 2024 (UTC).[reply]
As a Lions fan, am I allowed to just reject this outright? (kidding) Article is new enough, long enough, and well sourced. Earwig appears to be down, but a spot check of sources showed no issues. QPQ done. Hook is interesting, but I worry that in going for "hookiness" it might go too far towards being misleading. The Packers were one of the teams in the game, but is that the same as the players being "selected" for the game, as those for the actual all-star team were? What about wording it something closer to
@Gonzo fan2007: What do you think of this? It's still "hooky" while hewing a little closer to fact, in my opinion. But despite my joke earlier, I'm not deliberately trying to be difficult and am open to other suggestions. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 23:27, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
DrOrinScrivello, that actually was going to be my original hook, but then I questioned whether "played" was factually correct. There aren't a lot of great sources for an 84 year old game, and I can't be certain that every player actually "played" (there were at least 2 injuries for Packers players noted before the game). "Select" is kind of the word used by the NFL for being chosen to the Pro Bowl and is consistent with List of Green Bay Packers Pro Bowl selections. « Gonzo fan2007(talk) @ 23:33, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
All that to say I don't really mind either ALT if you think ALT1 is fine. « Gonzo fan2007(talk) @ 23:36, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that "select" is what you usually expect to see in most Pro Bowl situations, but it seems to me that on this particular occasion the players themselves weren't "selected" per se. Maybe a way to get around the "play" issue would be to say,
I think this is mostly hair splitting, though, and would not argue if the promoter choses any of the three options. Assuming my suggestions didn't alter the original enough for this to be considered approving my own hook (in which case I'm fine with another reviewer being requested), I think this is good to go. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 23:53, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am. I know it's not quite what you wanted, but I think this is still an interesting hook and at least your good work on the article will still get featured. ALT2 is good to go. DrOrinScrivello (talk) 14:20, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that the vocalist on the dance song "Music Sounds Better with You" was in a punk band that disapproved of his collaboration with electronic musicians?
Overall: Since I am a relatively new user (est Dec2023), I am not sure if ALT0 violates NPOV. But regardless, I prefer ALT1 JuniperChill (talk) 22:08, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that the relation "being a sibling" is irreflexive because no one can be their own sibling? Source: [2]
ALT2: ... that in the 19th century, philosophers changed their understanding of relations in response to developments in logic, mathematics, and science? Source: [3]
MacBride, Fraser (2020). "Relations". The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. Metaphysics Research Lab, Stanford University. Retrieved 5 October 2023.
Improved to Good Article status by Phlsph7 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 21 past nominations.
Freshly promoted GA, looks quite solid, not copyvio. ALT0 and ALT1 are good hooks, correctly sourced and interesting. For ALT2, the sources could be a bit more explicit about the 19th century, but I agree this is correct. I am not sure it is as interesting as the other two. QPQ has been done. Approved. —Kusma (talk) 11:00, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: I am assuming in good faith that the Dutch refs adequately support the text and that there is no plagiarism. I've done a general search myself as to the subject of the bio in English sources. There were some deletions made to the article of the word Nazi here; restoring the word would help make this properly neutral in accuracy, and I would be happy then to pass this final item of the qpq. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:FD8F:5C17:CABB:9E61 (talk) 20:25, 12 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Eligibility all good. Article is well-written and reliably sourced. Hook is horrifying and interesting. Image licensing looks good. I don't think this photo should be prioritized, since it's visually pretty unremarkable, but it's not problematic in any way. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 06:08, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that when Brighton Aquarium(entrance pictured) opened, it had no exhibits—but at the opening ceremony, Frank Buckland "produced, apparently from his pocket, a couple of juvenile alligators"? Source: As above for the first part. The alligators part is sourced to Clifford Musgrave (1981), Life in Brighton, page 284; again I have cited the hard copy book, but I think it may be available on the Internet Archive.
Note that I (Hassocks) have added User:Fork me as a co-author following discussion on our talk pages; after the nomination was made Fork me expanded the article with material on the building's postwar history. I think I have made the necessary changes to the subpage to allow the credits to work correctly. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 12:36, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Holy shit, what a hook ALT1 is. Checked the source (it's on page 294) and it is indeed there. I wish it were possible to add that the babies became part of the collection, but alas it's pretty long. I would recommend, though, just piping Frank's page to some explanatory text like "a zoologist", since few people know who Frank Buckland is. Article 5x expanded since the 13th. No copyvio issues. This is an excellent article! A very thorough and complete history. What great work! Maybe a GA nom is due? ꧁Zanahary꧂ 03:33, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not going to vote on this as a co-author, but I think of the two ALT1 is the better one. The baby alligator story is great! Fork me (talk) 07:19, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Sebastiaan Matheus Sigismund de Ranitz (1901–1987)
Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 07:13, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
QPQ: - Not yet complete Overall: Nominator still needs to complete QPQ, but otherwise it looks good. It might be good to add in the Production and release section that it had a theatrical re-release in 2024, distributed by Kani Releasing. AdJHu 胡 00:02, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is indeed a very interesting article and the hook is also interesting. The source is notable and I don't see any issue in the article. The main issue is the hook itself. The hook is telling us that people built a shrine after the statue was stolen. But what the source given for it says is slightly different. The news article says "On Reddit, Wellingtonians mourned Cub St’s missing bird by laying flowers and candles at its former perch". It is not even a shrine. The reporter didn’t call it a shrine, the reddit post calls it a shrine and we shouldn’t take the reddit as the reliable source. So @Panamitsu: you need to edit the hook a little bit. Or you can propose alternative hook. Or search for sources directly mentioned it as a shrine. Then ping me and I continue my review. Mehedi Abedin (talk) 13:20, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Mehedi Abedin: The source shows a Reddit post saying "Someone's set up a shrine for the missing pigeon". I've also looked up shrine in the Oxford dictionary, which says "a place associated with or containing memorabilia of a particular revered person or thing", so I personally think that it is fine to call it a shrine even if the source doesn't (directly) say it. What do you think? ―Panamitsu(talk) 01:43, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Panamitsu: Well I guess we don't have to be so perfect. Although I think that using the word "memorial" would be better. By the way, I am gonna pass this hook anyway. Mehedi Abedin (talk) 03:05, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: The hook is good to go. However if the promoter has any issue with the word "shrine" then they can replace it with "memorial". I am going to add ALT hooks here in case any other issue occurs. Mehedi Abedin (talk) 03:09, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Overall: Expanded day before nom, 503to2554 B within a week. Sammi Brie, the article looks almost good, so fix the above issue and you're good to go. ミラP@Miraclepine 16:13, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that the Colombian singer Feid collaborated for the second time with an American hip hop producer in "Luna", and it was called "an effort to take the genre to the global level"?
Decent sources: NHLE listing particulars (extensive), a journal article with more than a passing mention, book about the university (I have checked this via WebArchive) and a couple of newspaper pieces. No issues around notability.
QPQ review has been done and is awaiting action from the article's nominator. (Edit to say that this is one of the DYK nominations affected by the blocking of the article nominator Evrik as detailed here, which I hadn't realised until checking WT:DYK today. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 12:30, 18 June 2024 (UTC))[reply]
Re. The lecture centre was finished in 1966 or 1967: surprising that Historic England has not been able to pin down the completion date, but I have checked the listing particulars and other sources and it is indeed the case.
Image is suitably licensed, was taken by the article author, is used in the article and looks fine at thumbnail size.
All statements are sourced. No issues with neutrality.
No copyvio or close paraphrasing noted. There are a couple of phrases which cannot really be reworded without losing their meaning.
Hooks: both are fully verified. ALT1 is better; I wonder if it might be worth including a reference to the building's use in A Clockwork Orange to grab attention. Something like: ...that Brunel University's "imposing" and "frightening" lecture centre(pictured) featured in A Clockwork Orange? (another editor would need to sign off that hook).
Happy to mark this as verified. Note to prep builders: see my comment above on a possible ALT2 hook which I have suggested. Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 21:09, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The best time to run this would probably be 19 June, but I recognise that I may have missed the boat on that date.
Moved to mainspace by A Thousand Doors (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 25 past nominations.
A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 20:44, 15 June 2024 (UTC).[reply]
Comment not review As this is an article featuring election candidates, it should not appear on the main page until after 4 July, see WP:DYKELECT. TSventon (talk) 21:19, 15 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
New enough and long enough. QPQ present. This is a unique contribution to DYK as it is three paragraphs and a list; even though one paragraph does not end in an inline citation, I am treating it as a lead-section paragraph. All the list bullet points contain at least one inline citation. The hook fact checks out and is included. Image is OGL-licensed and acceptable for the Main Page. Good to go after 4 July per above. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:49, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much for the review, Sammi! If you've got concerns over the amount of prose in this article, I've expanded the lead with another paragraph. Let me know if you think this has improved things. Thanks, A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 15:32, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Newly moved article long enough and on notable topic. Subject passes GNG. No apparant copyvios. QPQ done. Hook is interesting and ready to go. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 12:23, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
New, long, & neutral enuf; interesting. AGF on refs, which are all in Chinese, & so both hooks. Earwig finds nothing. GTG. Johnbod (talk) 13:37, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that early in his career Terry Pratchett had published short stories in newspapers, which remained unknown until they were posthumously discovered and republished in the 2023 book A Stroke of the Pen?
Article - Created 16 June, nominated 19 June: 4688 words: sources reliable, including source of hook: article is presentable. Hook - meets criteria of verifiability, interest and format. Good to go.Smerus (talk) 13:11, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Generalissima: Article looks good, QPQ is done, etc. When I first saw the hook I wasn't sure if "second most played" referred to a concurrent count, or of a number of purchases in the past month or all time. I think it might be better to add something to the effect of "concurrent". You passed me in DYKs :(. ―Panamitsu(talk) 03:17, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yeah, maybe "reached the second highest concurrent player count on Steam?" Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 03:20, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I do have some major doubts about this "game"'s notability. Mainly, I think it fails WP:SUSTAINED, as it appears to be a flash-in-the-pan phenomenon that quickly drops off the radar and there is nothing to really talk about with regards to its content. I am not sure if DYK articles are required to pass notability criteria (the guidelines simply say "reliably sourced") but it risks coming off as advertising if a non-notable gimmick reaches the main page. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:38, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Zxcvbnm: I feel the article pretty plainly meets GNG. It's covered in-depth in a wide variety of reliable sources for a month now, including Forbes. Even "gimmicks" are notable if they get significant, reliable coverage. (And no, notability is not a DYK thing. If it gets AFD'ed thats another issue.) Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 05:49, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The only sources in the article are from a 2-week timespan from the beginning of June to a few days ago. That, to me and likely most other editors is not a sustained span of time in which the "game" is discussed. That goes into the realm of Wikipedia as news website rather than as a lagging indicator of notability. "Brief bursts of news coverage" do not demonstrate notability. There's a possibility that several months from now, the "game" will still be major, but we are not a crystal ball. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 05:59, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Zxcvbnm: But lots of games have articles relatively soon after release. How can we say *any* game will or won't have coverage? Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 06:22, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Usually games have some degree of pre-release announcements and whatnot even before it comes out, with release day only cementing its notability. I'd say literally any game article that is created shortly after a game is announced is frowned upon for being WP:TOOSOON. I'm not saying it should be deleted now, but it does risk being deleted at a later date if its popularity fails to last. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:32, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that Dr. Oen Boen Ing, who often worked for free, was so popular that the Indonesian government was petitioned to not evacuate him during a period of violence against Chinese Indonesians?Source: Lie, Ravando (2017). "Dr Oen Boen Ing: Patriot Doctor, Social Activist, and Doctor of the Poor"(PDF). Wacana. 18 (2): 467. doi:10.17510/wacana.v18i2.592. – "The report also said that Dr Oen was able to assist more than 200 patients a day and more than half of them did not have to pay a single penny. ... When a series of anti-Tionghoa upheaval erupted in Surakarta, Dr Oen was supposed to be evacuated to a safe place by the Republican government. However, after hearing such a plan, people in Surakarta submitted a petition rejecting the idea and hoping Dr Oen would remain in Surakarta to assist the poor."
Overall: Earwig marked ~40% for the Wacana PDF, but a spot check indicates that it's probably due to the foreign language element and particular phrasing like "fun fairs"; I didn't see any serious issues. Promoter, feel free to double-check my work; this is my first QPQ review. ThaesOfereode (talk) 21:16, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I reviewed Earwig, and changed "decided to move" to "moved", but most of these are proper names or direct quotations. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:44, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... that Joy was the sole survivor of the Romanov family's execution?Source: Buxhoeveden, Sophie (January 1, 1928). The Life & Tragedy Of Alexandra Feodorovna, Empress Of Russia. A Biography. Longmans, Green and Co. ASIN B000YMJL86
Reviewed:
Improved to Good Article status by Jacob0790 (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 235 past nominations.
The article is recently updated to GA status. Length, sourcing and copyvio is fine. No plagiarism or unsourced hook. Interesting hook with historical significance. Looks good to go. Awaiting QPQ. The Herald (Benison) (talk) 16:01, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Article recently updated to GA status. Very detailed and intricate with extensive uses of images and other detailed graphs. Article is cited well with no problems regaridng copryright issues. Good to go. - Toadboy123 (talk) 18:56, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Adding this nice image for consideration. Always nice to see the most distant human made objects on the front page. Thriley (talk) 22:09, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article notes: "Fenby excels at weaving the strands of his complex narrative into heroic and more often harrowing tales. There are sharp pen portraits of the heroes and (mostly) villains of the piece: exotic monsters such as the Dog Meat General, or the Christian General whose men marched to the tune (but not the words) of Hark! The Herald Angels Sing, but also leading figures such as Sun Yatsen and Zhou Enlai - the first of whom emerges as a disorganised lightweight, the second as a ruthless accomplice to Mao’s crimes."
I’ll review this. Thriley (talk) 21:53, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Article created 18 June. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hook is interesting and sourced. QPQ is done. Looks ready to go. Thriley (talk) 17:20, 20 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Source: Adejunmobi, Moradewun (January 1994). "History and Ideology in Jean-Joseph Rabearivelo's Prose Works". Canadian Journal of African Studies / Revue canadienne des études africaines. 28 (2): 219–235. doi:10.1080/00083968.1994.10804351. ISSN 0008-3968.
ALT1: ... that Jean-Joseph Rabearivelo spared the manuscript of his first novel from destruction before his suicide? Source: Adejunmobi, Moradewun (January 1994). "History and Ideology in Jean-Joseph Rabearivelo's Prose Works". Canadian Journal of African Studies / Revue canadienne des études africaines. 28 (2): 219–235. doi:10.1080/00083968.1994.10804351. ISSN 0008-3968.
Honestly, WP (along with Wikisource) needs more Malagasy-related topics over time. See you on the front page! --Slgrandson (How's myegg-throwing coleslaw?) 08:47, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Slgrandson! Is there an ALT you think is better? If not, no worries, as someone else down the line can decide. I think I prefer ALT0. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 15:55, 19 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
5× expansion of 4 March 2024 version completed from 1,888 characters to 20,402 and nominated on the same day. No copyvios detected (high confidence of violation due to direct quotes from reviews that have all been cited; AGF sources which can't go through Dup detector). Article is well-sourced. Main hook is 74 characters long (ALT1 is 113; ALT2 is 141); all three are under 200 character max. and are interesting. Refs 46 (verifying the main hook and ALT1), 54 (verifying ALT1), 66, 69, and 72 (verifying ALT2) are reliable sources. QPQ done. Looks good to go! —Bloom6132 (talk) 00:21, 22 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Article new enough and long enough. All sections well sourced and neutrally written. Hook one is verified. hook two and three are source, but we need citations directly after each in the article per DYK rules.--Kevmin § 16:19, 3 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Juxlos, Dahn, and AirshipJungleman29: sorry for last minute pull, I checked this set earlier today but only just had access to a computer to edit... anyway, the issue is there seems to be a chronological issue with this hook, based on what's in the article. The hook begins with "that during a period of religious tensions...", with a link to Maluku sectarian conflict, which is described as being from 1999 to 2002, but then it says he was "selected as the mayor of Ambon, Indonesia, to placate local Christians", something which took place in 1996. So it can't have been during the Maluku conflict. The article goes on to say that this was during his tenure. If there was already tension in 1996, then we probably need to spell that out in the article to use it in the hook and also not link to a specific conflict that took place later. Cheers — Amakuru (talk) 21:55, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
SL93 are you available to review the above two hooks? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:56, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
New enough and long enough. QPQ present. Must AGF on the offline source. No textual issues. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 06:42, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- It appears that a paragraph uses content copied without attribution from Qarawat Bani Hassan
Done[reply]
Doing.... ミラP@Miraclepine 15:41, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
